More than 2,000 vaccinated babies died: The cost of doing business

Earlier this month (March 2011), Japanese authorities ordered doctors to stop using pneumococcal and Hib vaccines because four children died after receiving the shots. However, the real news was never reported: more than 2,000 babies died in the United States after receiving vaccines for these very same diseases, yet authorities refuse to warn parents and halt production. A safety review is vital to determine whether a recall of the dangerous shots may be necessary to protect additional American babies from disability and death.

According to Shelly Burgess, an FDA spokesperson, the FDA and CDC "have not detected new safety concerns or unusual reporting patterns." That's odd, because the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), jointly operated by the FDA and CDC, has received more than 59,000 reports of adverse reactions to pneumococcal and Hib vaccines during the past several years. More than half of these cases - 30,094 - required hospitalization, with 2,169 deaths. About 95 percent of these deaths were in children under three years of age.

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Once again we put stock holders above stake holders. Not only do vaccines have dangerous side effects, they go against our natural biology which is designed to create anti-bodies to fight disease, and not become exposed to a barrage of dead or dying viruses. It's not just the coincidence that 1 in 150 children have autism, but also the 10,000 cases of SIDS that should concern those who have to decide if vaccinations cause more harm than good.

As a mother of a young child, I have been struggling with which vaccinations I want to allow my child to have. Now its wonderful that many dangerous childhood diseases have been defeated through the vaccination of these children but it seem, lately, that their are more and more vaccines coming out for certain illness's that are not nearly as severe. (Case in point, Chicken Pocks... Flu Shots) and I don't feel that their has been enough research (nor that these vaccines have been around long enough to accurately judge) whether or not they are harmful rather than helpful.

In the case of autism, and I do realize there could be a link between it and childhood vaccines, I tend to lean more towards an opinion that I have developed. I believe there may be a link between allowing children (at an extremely susceptible period of brain growth) to be bombarded by WiFi and communication frequencies 24/7. The cases of diagnosed autism have been increasing... as we add more and more radio frequencies to our surroundings.

Its just my opinion, of course, I have no real proof. But I don't let my daughter play with a cellular phone, just in case.

One of the best whistleblower/truther sources I've found is at www.whale.to in regards to the health industry, especially vaccinations, and there is also M.C. Douglass, whose daily dose archives contain many gems of sage advice to steer you clear of plenty foul industry measures and products. Good luck with your research

www.whale.to...
douglassreport.com...

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My wife and I have been catching hell for not getting certain vaccines for our Daughter. My rule of thumb is if the disease is not normally fatal we will not get the vaccine. Being sick and uncomfortable is better than being dead any day of the week.

I belove it would be very difficult to show conclusively that the negative effects were from the vaccine and as you will not see any unbiased study to show either way we need to fly blind and use our best judgement as parents. This is also why these companies can get away with this. They are innocent until proven guilty and circumstantial evidence will not be enough when you can afford the best legal teams on earth.

I had been trying to figure out what changed in the late 80s early 90s when Autism rates skyrocketed. There were some new vaccines but the cellular / WiFi thing really started at around that time too... hmm this will require more research. I might need to turn off the WiFi and keep the Cell Phones away from my lil one.

Maybe it is time for the tinfoil hat?

I was just looking into vaccines and possible relation to SIDS, weird

While reading through various studies and web pages the general consensus is there is no connection. But they didn't really have any proof to back it up one way or the other, which to me is unconvincing.

I'm not saying to not vaccinate at all, but I think that spacing out the shots won't do any harm either, and may just safe your little one.

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I asked several doctors about the Vaccine / SIDs, Autism connection and got the whole eye roll and condescending canned response about how wonderful vaccines are.

Apparently most recent research (from about a year ago now) was showing SIDs is not caused by vaccines but children being too comfortable when they sleep. They get really comfortable and just forget to breath. And this sounds more reasonable than chemical cocktail causing death why?

Originally posted by Jinglelord
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I asked several doctors about the Vaccine / SIDs, Autism connection and got the whole eye roll and condescending canned response about how wonderful vaccines are.

Apparently most recent research (from about a year ago now) was showing SIDs is not caused by vaccines but children being too comfortable when they sleep. They get really comfortable and just forget to breath. And this sounds more reasonable than chemical cocktail causing death why?

Exactly. Why aren't the comfortable until they begin their heavy doses of shots? Were they not comfortable the first month of life wrapped in the mother's arms? Gimme a break, I am so sick of doctors knowing everything, especially with conditions with no known cause. I have to fight to get the shots spaced out, but I really don't care I've breastfed my kids and honestly as long they are breastfed there isn't a dire need to vaccinate them until they weaned anyway.

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I think it is important for people to remember doctors are not some perfect messiah and are humans just like the rest of us... I think it is equally important for the doctors themselves to recognize this.

I understand they have a superior knowledge of biology and how the human body works but I am not ignorant and know that nobody on earth really has all the information required to make these life and death decisions.

We listened to the doctors and still have problems to this day because we weren't completely informed and when you're sitting in a hospital room with your kid stressed out it is difficult to do the research required yourself. So you rely on them. Well I made that mistake once and will not repeat it. I now regard doctors advice as just that, advice for me to consider. I will usually ask multiple doctors and specialists when it is important enough. And also push the docs and ask all the hard questions. it is well worth it.

One of my closest friends in the world lost a baby to SIDS 2 days after her 4 month old shots.
I helped my friend a lot after she lost her daughter. It was a tough time had by all.
This was 10 years ago. (Sometimes it feels like yesterday.)

Anyway, after this sudden, horrific tragedy...I, for myself had to know why. So, I RESEARCHED as much as I could & always printed out copies of anything I read for my friend-as she was desperate to have a "why".

As it WAS, 10 years ago, many coroners did not list SIDS as a cause of death. Often times, unknown was the cause of death. When my friend got her child's autopsy report back "unknown" was the cause of death.

She wanted to report this to the adverse vaccine reaction thing. (what ever it's called) So, she tried & was told that because her daughter was listed as unknown for cause of death-the adverse vaccine reaction program didn't want to accept her child's "case". That's where I stepped in. My friend was a skeleton of her normal self & wanted me to her get her child's "case" accepted. Three way call.

Crying friend and pissed off me on the phone. Talked to the first 2 agents & argued with them for about an hour. They didn't want to list her child's death as a death due to reaction from vaccinations. Got even madder. Demanded that I spoke with the head dude of the program. Talked to a couple of more people, who @ that who were willing to list her daughter's as a SIDS death attributed to vaccines. At this point, I wanted to talk to the big dog because of the peeps on the phone treated my friend so poorly.

Well, we talked to the head hancho. After about 30 minutes of me arguing some indisputable facts about SIDS & vaccines. (Indisputable facts as of 10 years ago.) The head hancho dude said words I never thought I'd hear. He ADMITTED that vaccines DID have many reactions INCLUDING SIDS. But the logic implied was the few that get screwed from the vaccines were worth "millions of children dying". Basically they were the "sacrificial lambs" for the rest of the populace.

This was all ten years ago & memory is hazy due to the trauma surrounding the issue.

But like it or lump it...its all true. I lived it with my friend.

Moral of the story: RESEARCH *ALL* info (good & bad) for yourself & make an educated decision for yourself or your child.

SIDS is real. & so are the diseases they vaccinate for.

Educate, advocate, & do NOT ever feel pressured into doing something your heart says "no" too--by anyone! Especially an "anyone" with MD after their name.

Putting the government in charge of the people’s welfare is like putting the wolf in charge of the hen house, only it does not make much sense because I highly doubt those hens would choose to let that wolf guard them, humans are fascinating creatures with a serious lack of instinct if you ask me. Even the hens would say, “And you call us stupid…”

Doctors only know about medicine and vaccines, what they've been told about them. If the medical industry as a whole deems vaccines to be safe, whether they were lobbied by pharmaceutical companies to make that conclusion or if it's just to protect them from litigation, then the doctors will spout the official response they've been directed to spout.

Doctors are not going to tell you anything other than the official party line. You have to do your own research, and a lot of it. Deciding not to vaccinate your child is one of the hardest things to see through. Obviously if you've researched it, your better judgement would tell you to keep these poisons far away from your baby's vulnerable immune system. But, then the fear of the diseases kick in and the medical professionals reciting their commercials and rolling their eyes at you and treating you like a paranoid idiot will really confuse you and make you second guess your better judgement.

It's a tough decision, especially when you don't implicitly trust authority.

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sounds pretty ridiculous....let's all try and forget to breath for say....one minute, two at most.....and how do you feel? i thought so!!

Originally posted by Jinglelord
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Apparently most recent research (from about a year ago now) was showing SIDs is not caused by vaccines but children being too comfortable when they sleep. They get really comfortable and just forget to breath. And this sounds more reasonable than chemical cocktail causing death why?

Hmmmm...Do you have any links for this research? The reason I ask is that the function of breathing is not a voluntary action. Moving your muscles in order to raise your arm up over your head is a voluntary action.

But, breathing is controlled by the autonomic nervous system and it's something that a person normally does unconsciously without even thinking about it. Try holding your breath and pretty soon your autonomic nervous system will override your conscious voluntary action of not breathing and will force you to take a breath. So breathing is not something that you can ever "forget" to do, even if you're extremely confortable when sleeping.

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I'm sorry I only have what I was told by a pediatric hospital physician who had supposedly taken an Interest in SIDs and was privy to all the most recent research (and apparently part of it).

Granted I am only a civilian and not indoctrinated into the order of the physician so I am sure she simplified the information and it took quite a bit of prying to even get what I did.

I've tried sorting through medical journals and I must say I haven't cracked the code and am not sure what they're talking about half the time.

We have a beautiful and healthy 10 month old. The first Dr visit he started talking about the next visit starting vaccines. I asked him what they consisted of he gave me the run down. I then asked what would happen if I chose against certain vaccines. He got slightly hostile and looked at me as if i was nuts. So the next drs visit came around and he had the nurse bring in all the vaccines my lil girl was gonna get that day. I looked at the Dr and told him to take a good look at my baby girl who as playing with her feet and cooing at the time. I asked him if he thought she had any autistic traits and without skipping a beat or going into any long term talks he said god no. I think he thought he was comforting me or validating some point of his. I said good doc I dont think so either. So here's the deal if my lil girl is diagnosed with autism me and you are going to have a problem. One that you might like the end results of. He got slightly red and stepped back and then recommended that we space out the shots over a 6 month period. True Story. Yes we still bring our daughter to him. Mainly because he is a well respected physician and the ol lady likes that. Just don't think for one minute I am naive to his possible bs On the following visit he commented on the fact that most parents just listen to everything he says and he could hear the genuine concern even tho I was quasi threatening.. et cetera et cetera...

So my point here... Which I did not get into the good dr with is this. Did he validate my concerns knowing that there was a chance that the series of inoculations could increase the chances of being diagnosed autistic? Or simple appeasement. I understand there could be a deep seeded big pharma conspiracy that trickles down to bought and paid docs at all levels. Don't they realize if that's the case sooner or later their gi is going to be up and the hundreds of thousands of pist off ppl they left in their wake will rise up.

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Money talks BS walks. Greed doesn't usually heed to consequences.

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Well, don't worry about not being indoctrinated into that order of the physician. I work with them every day and believe me, some of them are real knuckleheads (to put it nicely lol). Don't get me wrong, there are some good ones, but there's a lot of not-so-good ones too.

Let me know if you do run across any of that research about SIDS babies "forgetting" to breath. I deal with medical research studies every day, so I'd be really interested in seeing it. Maybe that pediatric hospital physician just over simplified because she figured that you weren't a doctor so you'd never understand a detailed explanation. I can't stand it when they do things like that.

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Infants have many health issues that can come rapidly, kill and then leave..
Sometimes there is no known cause.

If I chew bubble gum, And then die of a heart attack..
Did the bubble gum cause a heart attack?

Whilst I understand vaccination is a touchy subject, especially when it's our children, I'd like to point out that diseases like Measles are on the rise again because of people refusing to vaccinate their children based on some rumour mongering that the MMR jab causes Autism. Not being funny but even if it were true wouldn't Autism be better outcome than death from Measles? (Yes, measles can be a killer) It's about weighing up both possible outcomes. Many of the childhood vaccines are much more beneficial and the small risk of side effects far outweighs the risks of contracting the diseases. I agree we don't need vaccines for Chicken Pox and (in most cases) flu.
I personally find it irresponsible to refuse ALL vaccines. You are putting your child and other children at risk from potentially fatal diseases. The person above who said that they refuse the vaccines for non fatal illnesses has the right view in that respect.
If the disease isn't a fatal one, no need to vaccinate. If the disease IS a fatal one then most definately vaccinate.
Both my kids up to date on their vaccines and, aside from the usual bit of a temp for an hour or so after, have never had any ill effects.
Hey, if it wasn't for childhood vaccines we would never have found out that I am allergic to the Tetanus jab. It made my whole arm swell as a baby. If I were to have it as an adult it would kill me, pure and simple. (Hope I never get bitten by a dog lol)

So yeah, chicken pox etc doesn't need to be vaccinated against.
Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Meningitis, Polio etc etc is probably wise to be vaccinated.