To The Brightest Minds On ATS, What Can Be Done To Get Our Country Back ?, page 5

===Excellent question, and this topic has receive good and reasonable replies.
===I have thought about this subject often in the past and have pondered on how this can be possible. I compare the current situation to that of spider. Now picture this spider is nearly 10 feet tall and 15 feet wide. How would you defeat such a creature hand to hand? You could attack one or two of its legs, yet that would not defeat the monster, for even if you were to disable 1 or 2 of the creatures legs(should one be so lucky), the spider would still be able to function and its retaliation would be your doom.
===Now the spider in my view is the Elitist. They are the powerful and extremely rich. Call them what you may, Illuminati, Skulls, and other so called names. This elite group of individuals have 5 legs from which they support themselves. Their legs are the government, big business, media, military and the common citizen. Attacking one of these legs would only bring the others down upon you. So how could one change the way things are? How can we obtain the true democracy we were brought up to believe we had? How can one defeat this spider should one attempt to?
===Disabling the military leg through informing is impossible and futile. A The other three legs: big business, media, and government; are near impossible because they have fallen to the greed of money and selfish ambition, the worst of them all.
===Disabling the weakest leg of the spider, the common citizen, is the only way, because that is what the other legs are mainly composed of. The common citizen, although ignorant to real current events (thanks to the media leg) must be informed of the real news, not half lies. But How?
===We would need a much more stronger collaboration between independent and non mainstream radio and T.V. stations, as well as support from newspapers and magazines. Although a tremendous amount of funding for these tools would be needed (which is something that can be discussed perhaps in another topic in the future due to length). This is the strongest non-violent action we can take against our manipulative oppressor. Would these actions work? Most likely not.
===Even if we were informing the average citizen on a daily basis what is happening around them (should they even care), we would only reach a small percentage of the people(although this would be a start). We would be drowned out by the media corporations which society tends to trust and believe without question. We would also receive verbal attacks on our character by those politicians who are corrupt, as well as other people whose voice society considers important. This would cause people to listen to us with a closed mind. It all has comes down to who has more financing to deliver their news to the people (the corporations and government have an endless supply to suppress such a movement).

Originally posted by Jazzerman[/I]
===Nothing can be done. I have a creeping feeling that people just don't care enough to get involved anymore...just as long as they can go about driving their Mercedes and believing that everything is OK.
Truely though, I wonder if we have let big business, etc. grow to the point where we have no control anymore. How many people do you think would stand up against Corporations, govt., etc. if they had a gun pointed in their face? I really want to know............

===I believe your right Jazzerman. Most people do not care (preferring to stay in the matrix and not face the real world) and should one become something more then just a thorn in the side of the establishment, something to actually threaten its existence, they wouldn�t be around for long. They would catch the attention of the CIA, our modern day Gestapo.
===Some replies to this post have even mentioned rebellion. Must rebellion be the only way? Well if a group of oppressors will do anything to remain in power over the oppressed, then what do u think?. All oppressive countries in the past have come down with only violence, from Hitler to Napoleon. Sadly that the people did not take action until it was too late. Non-Violent protest and other peaceful methods are nearly the beginning, a tool that can be used as an initial phase of a grand plan. Violent means would be necessary as the finale phase in removing those from power. Yet think about the consequences. An all out rebellion would destroy our economy. Their would be civil war between the rebels and the government sympathizers (manipulated masses.) Thousands if not more would perish. Other country's might take an advantage of the situation and move against us.
===So we have 2 options. We can to eat away at the spiders "citizen" leg by informing them of the truth and maybe (although highly unlikely) the other 4 will collapse. Our 2nd alternative is we attack the main body of the spider itself with rebellion. Such an attack would be a one way ticket. Success or failure. Success removes those oppressors from power, and gives us a chance to turn this country into the true democracy we were brought up to believe in. Failure would make us wish we were back to the days when we had only the patriot act I and II. Your rights? What rights?
===Wouldn�t that be nice, to live in a government nearly free of corruption. Big business that actually cares about the environment and its consumers. A military that only sends its troops into harms way when actually needed. A Media that delivers truthful news, whose first responsibility is to its readers and viewers, not the shareholders. Possible? Most wish.

Your positive as well as negative comments are welcome to my reply.

[edit on 22-7-2004 by Sir Ruthless]