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Originally posted by McKey
www.youtube.com...
No clue if this is legit, but interesting nonetheless lol
a video being online does not count as scientific evidence.
...video posted by Mathias is powerful because you have 2 planes in the same air space showing drastically different kinds of trails...
Have you done your homework?
Aerosol crimes / chemtrail crimes Clifford Carnicom
Rosalind Peterson: The Chemtrail Cover-Up
What in the World Are They Spraying?
You have been schooled, over and over and over again, that: "Cliff Carnicorn" is a con artist, scam artist huckster and fraud.
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"Rosalind Peterson" has no idea what she is talking about when it comes to matters of aviation. Incredible that an apparently well-educated and credentialed person can b so ignorant.....
But, the BIGGEST scam and hoax???:
What in the World Are They Spraying?
That one is utter rubbish....belongs in the dustbin of Face/Palm. Anyone who cannot see the myriad flaws and circular "arguments" and lack of scientific method and accuracy is seriously deluded......
Originally posted by MountainLaurel
reply to post by incrediblelousminds
a video being online does not count as scientific evidence.
This thread and others are full of evidence, scientific, political, first hand sightings, pictures, etc.
The last video posted by Mathias is powerful because you have 2 planes in the same air space showing drastically different kinds of trails, the typical argument that altitude, humidity, weather conditions are the reason trails vary doesn't seem logical in this case. I have seen with my own eyes examples of this same thing, planes in the same airspace making vastly different trails, some that persist and some that do not.
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
reply to post by incrediblelousminds
Sounds to me like you need a lesson in CHEMTRAIL 101
Have you done your homework?
Aerosol crimes / chemtrail crimes Clifford Carnicom
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Rosalind Peterson: The Chemtrail Cover-Up
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What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length)
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One is very clearly at a higher altitude...several thousand feet difference. It is clear as day.....the perspective is unmistakable, to experienced viewers. Those of us who have spent careers seeing all sorts of contrails, in all sorts of conditions...for decades.....
Originally posted by MountainLaurel
reply to post by weedwhacker
One is very clearly at a higher altitude...several thousand feet difference. It is clear as day.....the perspective is unmistakable, to experienced viewers. Those of us who have spent careers seeing all sorts of contrails, in all sorts of conditions...for decades.....
Aren't planes at higher altitudes more likely to leave a persistent contrail, why in this case is the "persistent/spreading contrail in that video at a lower altitude?
A single aircraft operating in conditions favorable for persistent contrail formation appears to exert a contrail-induced radiative forcing some 5000 times greater (in W m 2 km 1 ) than recent estimates of the average persistent contrail radiative forcing from the entire civil aviation fleet
The radiative forcing due to a distinct pattern of persistent contrails that form into contrail-induced cirrus near and over the UK is investigated in detail for a single case study during March 2009. The development of the contrail-induced cirrus is tracked using a number of high-resolution polar orbiting and lower-resolution geostationary satellite instruments and is found to persist for a period of around 18 h, and at its peak, it covers over 50,000 k
Aren't planes at higher altitudes more likely to leave a persistent contrail...
Are you afraid that when you were a pilot you unknowingly dumped chemicals mixed into the fuel?
Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People
Originally posted by MountainLaurel
reply to post by weedwhacker
One is very clearly at a higher altitude...several thousand feet difference. It is clear as day.....the perspective is unmistakable, to experienced viewers. Those of us who have spent careers seeing all sorts of contrails, in all sorts of conditions...for decades.....
Aren't planes at higher altitudes more likely to leave a persistent contrail, why in this case is the "persistent/spreading contrail in that video at a lower altitude?
It's dependent on temperature, humidity and pressure -- all of which can vary by altitude, but that doesn't always mean that relatively higher altitudes would be more conducive to trail persistence than a relatively lower altitude.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. The humidity easily could be at the saturation point at the lower altitude and not at the higher altitude.
Therefore, a single video showing a persistent contrail at a lower altitude than a non-persistent one is utterly meaningless.