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Draft Dodging -- What would you do?

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posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 04:39 PM
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We are in a never ending war of enemy that we can not actually see. War is how the world will control population, some think this to be a nessary evil. Yes if Bush is elected there will be a socialist draft that will make everyone of age servents of our government no matter the excuse. But if Kerry is elected we will get the same thing but it may be with a different approach. Look at Kerrys plan to send all kids to collage as long as they pledge servitude to the government for so many years. Anyone who does not want to go this route will need a lot of money to get around it because once the Government is paying the bills the tuition for everyone else will be so high only the rich will be able to afford to not be in servitude to the government. Sound like anything you have seen in history before?




posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 04:43 PM
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Both my husband and I are 52, so I guess they won't touch us. But, I certainly worry about my 18 and 20 year old nephews. They will have to make the decision what to do..if they are drafted, but I will support any decision they make 100%.
joey



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 05:05 PM
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depends on the War, served during the first gulf conflict. I think we should have busted Sadam the first time around though. Maybe in 200 yrs people will be dodging the draft for space exploration and colonization?



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 05:06 PM
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The whole reason most people were against the first draft, was because of the fact that senators sons, college students, and rich kids got deferments, while everyone else went off to fight.

One of my class teachers has lots of stories from the vietnam war era, one is that many of his friends and other people he knew, became openly gay to avoid the draft, and did so for years...the only way a new draft would ever be approved, is if everyone had equal chance of being drafted. Including children of the senate and house, celebrities, etc.

If I were drafted for the Iraq war, I don't know if I would just suck it up and go, or if I would just go to jail. The best option is to try to get conscientious objector status...I don't agree with the war, and I see no reason why I should go off and kill innocent people who have never done a thing to our country..and I don't want to risk my life just so Bush can fatten his wallet. No thanks.


AF1

posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 05:08 PM
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Hell I'm probably gonna end up there regardless of a draft.



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 05:30 PM
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A country that subliminly says its the highest honour to die fighting for your country and a religion that says its the highest honour to die fighting for your faith. If they are not trying to blind you with religion its patriotism.

I will not become even more of a slave to the system. I will not be fuel to the fires burning for the profit and power of the elite.

The pioneers of a warless world are the young men and women who refuse
military service.

- Albert Einstein



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 09:33 PM
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well fortunately i've been hospitalised and i'm currently on medication for mental problems so i got nothing to worry about myself. not to mention i'm a toatal queer and know many people that can attest to that as well. although if i was mentaly "sane" and was straight i'd probally leave my life behind and live off the land. and if the government catches up to me i'd just let them send my ass to jail. now f@#%ing way in hell i'm gona die to advance the new world order agenda.



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 11:20 PM
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If a draft was confirmed or already in motion when I turn 18, I'll just go to West Point. They have already sent me letters my sophmore year wanting me to consider them. Not to brag but I scored in the top 1% in the nation on a pre-SAT test. I recieved a ton of letters from many colleges (But not from the one I want to go to lol). But anyway, By going to West Point I will automatically be promoted to 2nd Lt. and get to choose my posting. Not that I am scared of being drafted, but I could serve the country better as an officer (thats what the Army tells me
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posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 11:21 PM
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I feel bad for you guys and gals who might get drafted.

My dad is the head of the draft board in my tri-county area.


I guess that means Nick350 won't go to war, luckily. But be damn sure that if any of the war happens to land on Michigan soil, I'll be taking some of my fathers rifles and shooting the opposition..

-Nick


MBF

posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 11:21 PM
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I'm 45 and been completely screwed over by the govt, if they call me I'll tell them to go !!!! themselves( hey, it's good enough for the vp).



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 11:29 PM
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I worry a lot! I have three sons, ages 21, 25, and 29...I'd go nuts if one of them were over there! I wouldn't sleep...I couldn't stand it.
The thought of one of them being hurt for some inane reason.....they say they'd go and fight...



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 11:37 PM
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Originally posted by Nick350

My dad is the head of the draft board in my tri-county area.



You realise what happens to draft dodger who get out of it because their daddy let them?

No, they don't become President, you'll be assaulted by locals.



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 11:38 PM
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While i'm here, i saw that they had things in place to stop people from fleeing to Canada.

Anyone care to elaborate on that? possible methods etc.



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by Xephyr

With each passing day, a war with Iran becomes more and more a reality. Most of you are aware that congress has a bill in the works which will reinstate the draft if passed (Sn 89, HR 163).

Ill serve if drafted. The Selective service already has plan in effect for drafting medical people in an emergency in any case (see thier web site). Why would I serve? Its for a variety of reasons. I can't abandon my wife and kids and leave them without support in any case. At least Ill leave them with some supp life insurance. (Im covered if I have to go serve).



posted on Jul, 21 2004 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by Nerdling
While i'm here, i saw that they had things in place to stop people from fleeing to Canada. Anyone care to elaborate on that? possible methods etc.


Seal the border at the obvious check points, but they could not seal the whole border. The real question is will Canada allow you to stay? Will Mexico for that matter?



posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 12:17 AM
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Originally posted by FredT
Seal the border at the obvious check points, but they could not seal the whole border. The real question is will Canada allow you to stay? Will Mexico for that matter?


During the vietnam war lots of draft dodgers would just get dropped off by a friend at a motel, or somewhere right near the border...they would stay there the night or a couple days, then just hike right on over the border, or swim through a lake, anything. During that time Canada was supportive of draft dodgers, and there were jobs available, places to stay for cheap, and lots of them are still living there to this day.

[edit on 22-7-2004 by Shoktek]



posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by JediMaster
The best option to avoid of draft would be to join the army, navy, airforce before the draft happens. That way you would not be on the fighting front, as soon as you sighned up. The draftees are the ones who go to the frontlines first, you really think that a solider who was in there for 5 years would be up for the first bullets? The draftees are the grunts of the army.

Its a scary thought. One of the reasons for this is becauses our troops are spread so thin across the world. Some in Iraq, some in Afhganistan some in Africa. There all over the place.



or join the air force and have a job that never leaves the country, like me for instance, i work on nuclear missiles.



posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 12:43 AM
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As I'm told if you are drafted go along with everthing up to and including the oath the defend the US against all enemies..blah..blah..blah

after the oath you will be asked to take one step forward to complete the oath..don't step forward..according to Admendment 13,section one

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

But,,section 2 of the same admendment states

"Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. "


does this mean they can still make you even if you dont take that step and volunteer?



posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 12:44 AM
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as for whether or not I'd go...nope.
I've already stated my opinion on it in another thread

I WILL NOT go to another man's land with the intent of killing him or his families



posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 12:49 AM
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yo yo again ats im proud to say i did draft dodge i re-enlisted in the usmc for 4 more years to go to a formal school (a skate duity) for that whole amount of time. that way when im done with the next skate enlistment ill be 28 and they wont be able to send me! much love
bigneu



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