Originally posted by sirjunlegun
And now I must Chastise you....HOW dare You use inappropriate scripture against them!? You wanna use scripure go use the one that says go pray in your closet for them and not let youre left hand know what the right is doing as it rights out a fat pentitent check to aid them from www.shelterbox.com or some other useful charity for them. It is times like these that some blowhard goes and starts spouting of scripture claiming they are Christian making the love and Work of Christ look tarnished and short sighted and selfish. But that isn't Christianity that's you and no wonder as your ground is solid under your feet and your keyboard is warm and dry you blaspemously refer to you thru your vicarious avatar as God God or maybe I am God. Turn of your screen and go sit in the corner facing it and pray to God and not yourself god, Iam Iam, that for by the grace of the God the Japanese suffer and you aren't!!! And in haiku form. And for the next month do some cultural homework by reading nothing but Japanese info texts paintings and try to work on your ethnocentricity. Shame

Originally posted by Aggie Man
Find a booming economy that can absorb 127 million people while not negatively impacting the citizens of that country(s), then we can discuss relocation. I'm all for moving those in danger to safety; however, I would not implement such actions if it will only create a crisis elsewhere.

my 2-cents

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
We are all going to die. Get used to that.

Originally posted by IAMIAM
Considering the ramifications of the on going disaster in Japan, why hasn't there been any calls to evacuate non-essential people from the island?

Why are other countries not opening their doors to these people and working to get them out of there?

Japan is just a title. It is in all actuality, just an island occupied by people. They are not "Japanese" they are people. The offer should be made to get as many out as are willing to leave. This nuclear disaster is only going to grow and the damage done is just beginning. Get the people out before it is too late.

Of course, many will not wish to go. They will not want to leave behind their country, their culture, their wealth (if they have any left), and their family. These things are illusions and some will see past them. Get the people out who wish to leave.


Those who wish to save their lives will lose them

Are we mad keeping people trapped on a doomed island?

Has there been any calls for a mass exodus?

With Love,

Your Brother

51And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem, 52And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him. 53And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. 54And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. 56For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village. 57And it came to pass, that, as they went in the way, a certain man said unto him, Lord, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest. 58And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head. 59And he said unto another, Follow me. But he said, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. 60Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God. 61And another also said, Lord, I will follow thee; but let me first go bid them farewell, which are at home at my house. 62And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

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Originally posted by Caji316
The Jap. government are just like all governments all over the world, they don't give a dam about anyone but themselves and most of the time they don't even give a dam about their own families....They are what most people do when they wake up in the morning in a little room called a bath room. You sit down on a stool and "take a government".....

Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by Aggie Man
Find a booming economy that can absorb 127 million people while not negatively impacting the citizens of that country(s), then we can discuss relocation. I'm all for moving those in danger to safety; however, I would not implement such actions if it will only create a crisis elsewhere.

my 2-cents

So for the sake of MONEY, a people must be left to suffer?

Originally posted by Firefly_
Your posts never fail to disgust me. You prance around these forums pretending you are such a good person, then you show your true colours with such vile hatred as this.

You claim god BLESSED us by causing an earthquake that destroyed entire towns, killed thousands, triggered a chain reaction causing nuclear reactors to fail, and the resulting fallout will make countless thousands of people suffer in literal hell, INDISCRIMINANTLY.

How many of the people who died deserved it? I can bet the vast majority, if not all of the casualties were just normal people living their lives and did little, if anything to deserve what they got. And he's going to keep it up until we cower in fear before him and accept him into our lives? I would rather die than serve that piece of crap.

Any god that "blesses" his creation in this way is absolute evil. This is not a blessing, its a curse and you need to preach this god by dressing up his evil and calling it good. People like you who spread your evil messages are the scourge of the human race.

Originally posted by IAMIAM

Originally posted by strangleholder1
This earthquake is a judgment from god. I say screw the japs and see if godzilla saves them.

You see a harsh judgement issued by a bitter vindictive God. That isn't MY God my friend.

My God has given mankind another blessing in this earthquake and nuclear disaster. It is the blessing to let go of our hate for one another, let go of our earthly attachments, and work together to build a better world.

He will keep giving us these blessings until we accept them.

With Love,

Your Brother

Originally posted by TerryMcGuire
IamIam.

Here is a post I left on a thread a two days ago.

"During times of great sadness we try to console one another. We rally round each other with soothing words and uplifting thoughts, in my social circles here in the US anyway. We do not care for the disruption of normal times.
So we give it the old chin up and accentuate the positive.

However friends these are no longer normal times. Choose which ever reasons as to why.

Some of us are facing insurmountable challenges RIGHT NOW. Many faced them yesterday and are dead.
We give them no honor if we just pick up and start over again.

When tribes migrated to the island they had no idea about tectonic plates or rising seas. We stayed and but up a civilization and kept on building and building. When we learned how dangerous living on that island could be, we built better but kept on building. And we built very dangerous power plants.

Now we know many more things about that location and that island. We know what has happened and what will happen again, maybe sooner maybe later.

The island needs to be evacuated if we want to save the lives of its people. If we stay there and build again the sorrow and pain will come to our children, maybe sooner maybe later.

Is evacuation a correct solution? There may not be one. There may be NO solutions. But what is not a solution is just cleaning up and starting over. It is denial."



But the example of Haiti lets us see what is really happening. Victims are being left where they fall.

Part of the concept of climate change an/or environmental collapse is that it will be ongoing. And it will be world wide. When climate change was in its infancy as an issue, there were calls made to the question of how could we minimize the pain for future victims. For the most part, the idea of moving huge segments of humanity away from danger zones never got off the ground. I think it was just left at, those who can afford it will move on their own.

Originally posted by stefplz
If Your / My / Our God doesn't have a reality check he's going to destory the planet and everyone in it then.
This is what I don't understand about people who come on and preach at everything.
Your God is vindicitive, wrathful and full of vengence. He doesn't love us if he's pulling the strings behind the curtain.

Now my two cents has been said, I certainly wouldn't want to leave my home, my friends and possibly some family, forced to go to a country that wasn't my own and forced to stay there until I was given the all clear. If I had to leave for my own health then that's a different story. But no - one should be FORCED out of anywhere in this day and age.

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
Im not sure you mean that, but if you are judging others because their idea of compassion is not your own, I think you should consider that in the context of your stated spiritual beliefs.

You are acting if there is a "one right thing to do" here. And there isnt. You are presenting a very fear based and judgmental line of reasoning as "spiritual" and quite frankly, it isnt.