Japan Nuclear Meltdown Confirmed

reply to post by mikeybiznaz


WTF are you on about? This is the worst disaster in Japan in over 300 years. But they were prepared. And so all is well.

@BreakingNews: Fukushima nuclear plant was tested to withstand 7.9 quake, not 8.9 - wsj on.wsj.com...

reply to post by Gorman91


you and your attitude thats what I am talking about....your being in Denial of the seriousness of the Nuke Plants melting down, thats what I am talking about....

reply to post by mikeybiznaz


It's certainly serious. But it's controlled. Is the man at a circus without a net seriously in danger and is the situation serious? Yes, certainly. But it's controlled. Trained men are there. So despite it's seriousness, there is no reason to worry. And if by chance they fail, then we worry. Until then, why waste time worrying?

reply to post by Gorman91


So you are relying on MSM for your info that all is well. Trained men there
are being exposed to radiation - pretty soon they won't be well enough to perform
their duties. Not fearmongering but I just don't think we know what to
believe at this point in time - too many conflicting reports. I take everything
the media says with a grain of salt.

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by mikeybiznaz

 

It's certainly serious. But it's controlled. Is the man at a circus without a net seriously in danger and is the situation serious? Yes, certainly. But it's controlled. Trained men are there. So despite it's seriousness, there is no reason to worry. And if by chance they fail, then we worry. Until then, why waste time worrying?

They don't even know how the reactor is inside, they have no idea and what is there to control in a reactor meltdown ?

Sorry to burst your bubble but i think a melt down means they have already failed

It's really amazingwhat happens when children listen to propaganda.

Really.

The plant will continue on - no one will die because of an explosion or radiation leak and we will all stand and point (and the hegemonic collective) at you and laugh.

Calm down.

This is a splinter of news that has been carried by the media into a tsunami of its own.

'Listen' to what the experts on the ground are saying - none of them are actually worried. Japan already had this in the bag. Advertisers just pay more for fools watching propaganda and this is exactly the best type.

It's embarrassing enough watching the MSM do it without seeing it here at ATS too.

-m0r

The repercussions of this will be felt globally for many years to come. even more so than the earthquake it's self

reply to post by crazydaisy


No. I am saying that based off the fact that very few people died, that most infrastructure damage is not that bad, that even most of the country remains operational, and that a nuclear power plant did not go into meltdown after a 9.1 earthquake, a flood, a fire, and explosion, and a minor leak, that it is safe to assume they know what they are doing. because if they didn't, there would be 10s of thousands of people dead, not 1,000s. There would be skyscrapers collapsed, but there aren't. There would be crippling fires across the nation, but instead the fires are localized.

This is a country that literally saw it's own apocalypse and walked all over death's face. If it's not in hell now, it's not going to be.

reply to post by pepsi78


Yes they do. They know it's still functioning. Read above.

Originally posted by Gorman91

 

No. I am saying that based off the fact that very few people died
This is a country that literally saw it's own apocalypse and walked all over death's face. If it's not in hell now, it's not going to be.

Japan is announcing the death count at over 10,000....Yes I guess if one concidered their total population this is a small number....

@ everybody... I find that there is a personal Phsycological Trend to Deny the facts of a situation today. Because of sensationalism, People dont believe their eyes. Yet they flock to the worst of these offerners. The Narcissistic multitude of ATS. They take on this combative persona that everybody else who is grasping the situation is in a state of panic Further are those that harbor feeling of the doom and state that there's nothing going on untill "I see all the Facts" because they have bought into doom before and are now labelled as "ONE OF THOSE"

No, I'm not on the ground in Japan....Yes my eyes are riveted to MSM, its all I can do from here and I hope for the best...I am a Human Being

Nuke plant Melting down.....I am no expert but I have to wonder that uncooled nuclear rods means its working TOO GOOD.

Having been called a lot of things , my childish mind says "Yes, The Nuke Plant is still functioning. The Problem is , however, They cant find the off switch." Or in Big People terms, They no longer have the ability to Flood the Reactors In Question..........

"The Nuclear Plantis still functioning so no worries" What is wrong with this quoted sentence?

reply to post by mikeybiznaz


No, they are not. That's only true for Iwate Prefecture, and specifically a small town. It was at the core. 9,000 remain missing, however we do not know yet what will happen there.

I find is hard to believe that people would call conspiracy when the news blows things over proportion for a disaster, and then several weeks later call conspiracy when the news under reports it. Exactly what is true then?

From what I have seen it's a very good situation in terms of management. Some 4000 people died from Katrina and that was for New Orleans alone If the entire country shook at its core and only some 2000 people are accounted for as dead, it's not that bad then.

No sky scrapers fell, only 4 trails derailed, and no meltdown yet. I'm not pretending its not bad. I'm saying it's not THAT bad. Japan was ready. They called the tsunami warning hours before the main quake. It's a very good planned out situation in which very few died because they were ready.

Hi Everyone- First-Time Post here- long time watcher of ATS. I will be brief.

Concerning a possible meltdown of the Nuclear Plants:
Is there some sort of expanding spray concrete/foam/epoxy that can be injected into the containment building- to assist trapping and containing the radioactive steam and particulates? Obviously, the incredible heat is an issue- but they use foam( in jet accidents, for example) for fires. Again- containment is the key, simply preventing/reducing it's inevitable escapment into the atmosphere.

Yes they do. They know it's still functioning. Read above.

They can't see inside the reactor, they don't know it's condition and yes there was an explosion and we got radiation leaks, it's why they are giving out iodine, and have a 20 km radius limit, because they got it under control ?

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by mikeybiznaz

 

WTF are you on about? This is the worst disaster in Japan in over 300 years. But they were prepared. And so all is well.

I whole heartedly agree with the sentiments that Japan was the most prepared country to have this happen to them. You are absolutely correct on that point.

But to say that 'all is well', just because you're prepared? There's STILL a LOT that can go wrong there... hopefully it won't, and probably won't. But Japan and the world is FAR over the risks and effects of this disaster. All is not well. They are managing it very well, but I wouldn't doubt that things aren't all peachy, calm, and absolutely controlled.

Nobody could have fully prepared for an earthquake of this magnitude. And when you have 3 or 4 fail-safe systems in place for a nuclear plant, and all of them kick into effect, and all of them still fail... all is not well. They were as prepared as possible, working the best they can, but it's still a HUGE risk that we absolutely need to stay on top of, and make sure the story coming out is the straight and narrow, no overly reassuring assumption things will be okay.

I'm not being doom and gloom, not expecting a nuclear disaster, but we absolutely need to stay on top of this for ourselves, our neighbors, family and the world.

reply to post by pepsi78


Sure they can see. There are people there now. It is standard precaution to evacuate and treat people. Why would you wait? If even a small fire was present, you must evacuate. It's simple precautions.

The nuclear reactor survived a 9.1 earthquake, a fire, an explosion, a borderline-meltdown, and many other things. If it hasn't gone now, it's not going to.


When a nuclear meltdown happens, the core is gone. If they are still there, and they are still trying, a core is present.

reply to post by shagula


Well one thing they messed up on is putting all failsafe systems at ground level. Thus all were swept away in the tsunami. But that doesn't mean the end of the world. And when i say all is well, I mean that it's controlled, but not peachy. It's not a walk in the park. It's a derivative, for which they maintain a position above it. As long as all gears continue to work all things will not end in tears. Now yes things could go wrong at any moment, but these are specialists. And until something actually goes wrong, I'm not going to worry nor call it a disaster. There's just no point.

Most certainly bare your brother's burden, but don't act like he's about to get shot if he's behind a concrete wall.

reply to post by Gorman91

They can see inside the reactor, they can't, there is no way to see inside, it does not have any windows or cameras inside the container. They do not know the exact status "what is happening inside the reactor" so I would not go with everything is okay.