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Originally posted by Sestias
Ronald Reagan gutted the air traffic controllers when they went on strike in the 80's. They were striking because they had to work so many hours at one time that they were exhausted and making mistakes. They wanted a change in their hours.
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If he makes that kind of money, why're you worrying about losing benefits? What goes around comes around. One way or another health benefits get payed for. If the company no longer does the health benefits then you do. What's the difference? You should come out equally whether the company pays it or you pay it. I don't get why you're worried. It's the same both ways.
Originally posted by queenofsheba
reply to post by HaveAnotherOne
Fortunately, he has an annuity worth almost 200,000.00 cuz we're so entitled and dumb and haven't earned it. You should be on the side of the working class American who earns every cent they make. Are you even from America?edit on 11-3-2011 by queenofsheba because: add line
PATCO president Robert Poli demanded an across-the-board wage increase of $10,000/yr for controllers whose pay ranged from $20,462 to $49,229; the reduction of a five-day, 40-hour work week to a four-day, 32-hour work week; and full retirement after 20 years service.
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by mc_squared
Nice, but it was taken out of historical context. No where did they have a deficit like the one we are facing today, no where did they have the outrageous "packages" that they have today.
It's the same as looking at the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and saying how horrible nuking someone was, without looking at the ENTIRE historical context.
Shame! For taking a great man like RR and using his words to defend something that has been bastardized 30 years after the fact.
The pro-union people in Wisconsin have lost.
Now all they have left is cherry-picking quotes out of the past and starting witchhunts against the people they feel are responsible.
Originally posted by HaveAnotherOne
reply to post by Someone336
Blue collared workers were once needed. Now they are not.
They have went from being the pride of the nation to basically a bunch of uneducated scumbags. Think construction workers. Yea, you get the idea.
Nowadays blue collar is synonymous with trash.
Originally posted by mc_squared
Saw this on the Daily Show Moment of Zen tonight, had to share:
Ronald Reagan speaking about unions and collective bargaining in reference to the Polish Solidarity movement in 1980:
fast forward to 7minutes 31seconds here
But restoring the American dream requires more than restoring a sound, productive economy, vitally important as that is. It requires a return to spiritual and moral values. Values so deeply held by those who came here to build a new life. We need to restore those values in our daily life, in our neighborhoods, and in our government’s dealings with other nations of the world.
These are the values inspiring those brave workers in Poland. The values that have inspired other dissidents under Communist domination who have been willing to go into the Gulag and suffer the torture of imprisonment because of their dissidence. They remind us that where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost. They remind us that freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. You and I must protect and preserve freedom here or it will not be passed on to our children and it would disappear everywhere in the world.
The people of Wisconsin just watched a piece of their freedom get stolen away by the NCO (New Corporatist Order) today and yet the FOX News-bots have naturally rushed in to defend and celebrate this injustice.
It never ceases to amaze me how many FOX News-bots there are these days (especially on a conspiracy website no less) but how's that cognitive dissonance feel like when your own Republican Jesus speaks out against the brainwashed ideologies you're being spoonfed?
Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.