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Ronald Reagan: "Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost."

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posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 12:27 AM
reply to post by HaveAnotherOne

Blue collared workers were once needed. Now they are not.

Explain. Please, tell me, what are we going to do without our manufacturing base, which is driven by blue collar workers?

This statement alone reveals your immense ignorance of economic issues. Let me explain it to you simply.

1) The elimination of manufacturing jobs and other 'blue collar' work via outsourcing generates unemployment. The effects of unemployment include decreased life expectancies of workers and rising crime rates, as well as adding to the stagnation of an economy.
2) As unemployment increases, consumer demand declines, as there is less money for people to purchase goods with. As consuming declines, businesses slow down and begin to close up. First the local economies will stagnate, followed by the larger ones.

So we've eliminated the blue collar working and crashed our manufacturing base, leading to an economic downtown. What happens next?

3) Remember all those jobs we've outsourced? Odds are they have gone to free-trade zones in third world countries, where the exploited poor toil for 16 hour days (no union rights, you know) for quarters. Oh, and sense they're free-trade zones, the countries actually make no revenue off the sweatshop industry. Go figure. Or, if it isn't some free trade zone in Honduras or the Philippines, it's China, where workers are also exploited terribly.
4) Anyways, we can't produce the goods to make our economy run because we've given it all away. So, what we do is import the goods from other countries. Now, keep in mind that we do all this so we can maintain a global economic hegemony by keep the dollar as a global reserve currency. So we import goods and jobs in order to keep the dollar in large circulation globally, but to do this we have to import more than we export. This is called a trade deficit, and it is running us out of money. Because of the trade deficit, we had to go off the gold standard, destroying the long-term stability of our currency and allowing the Federal Reserve bank to gain an unfair control over America's markets. Thanks to the trade deficit, the world owns more of America than American owns of itself.
5) So we have a trade deficit. What happens next? Eventually investors will look at our ever-ballooning trade deficit, realize the destabilizing effects that it is going to have over the long run. I'm sure you and your elitist cronies will be enjoying America real well when we have a sudden capital flight.

All these problems are entirely linked.


A combination of unions, protectionist trade policies, a return to the gold standard, Congressional oversight of our central bank, and an international reserve currency to do business that is not the US dollar will turn us back into the nation that we were once.

edit on 12-3-2011 by Someone336 because: (no reason given)

posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 12:35 AM

off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 09:20 PM
Reagan said that? Didnt he strongly act AGAINST unions as president? Maybe Alzheimer was setting in and he got confused.

posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 09:30 PM
reply to post by mc_squared

That is for private industry.
He was on record many times stating that he was against public sector and Govt unions.
Nice find, but not including everything is still lying.

posted on Mar, 12 2011 @ 09:56 PM
reply to post by mc_squared

Ronald Reagan was president of the screen actors guild. He loved unions and thought they were important but your only telling part of the story. He knew there was a difference between public and private sector unions. He didnt believe in public sector unions at all obvious from his speech when he fired all the air traffic controllers.

All presidents quickly realize there cannot be collective bargaining for public unions. Case in point i dont see Obama suddenly deciding federal workers needs collective bargaining. Federal employees cant even try its against the law this was passed during Jimmy Carters administration making it illegal for federal unions.

The unions in Wisconsin have a right they shouldnt have had in the first place. And even know will still retain collective bargaining rights on salary and safety issues just not benefits.

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