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Originally posted by Tiste
Look at the price of gas, food and consumer goods in other comparable developed countries with similiar economies. Many of you on ATS complain about socialism and government needs to stay out of your lives...yet here is capitalism "righting" itself with the price of gas and food going up. How do you know that this high price has always been the true price and through subsidies and governement money it had been brought to the consumer at a lower price.
I agree that people should be protesting Wall Street and the big oil companies, but if you don't actually understand what or why you are protesting, there is no point.
In Canada, we pay more for gas, food and consumer goods. That is the reason why "economy" cars have been more popular despite having a better per capita income than the states. Why the heck would I need a gas guzzling escalade to transport 2 kids around??? I think its probably a good thing that the "real" costs of things are finally being realized by the American consumer and hopefully you will be able to adapt your lifestyle to it. The rest of the developed world have years ago...
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by sugarcookie1
The sad reality is that a clearcut majority of GOP driven protests are rooted in racism and hate. The mantra is to make Obama a "1 Term President" and that is all that matters to these Anti American racist pos!edit on 6-3-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by aarys
reply to post by sugarcookie1
Yes I agree. I have boycotted buying BP fuel for a while now here in New Zealand. Try to advise others to do the same. But not many really care. Real sad.
Originally posted by Tiste
reply to post by sugarcookie1
You are right...the cost of living has been going up and income hasn't kept pace with inflation. BUT, it has been doing this since the 80's. Americans are going to have to make some serious decisions going forward and you can expect the middle class to shrink.
As for the employment issues in the states, the blame rests solely on the American consumer. The need for cheaper and cheaper material goods has "forced" American companies over seas and south of the border looking for cheaper labour or just allowing foreign companies to produce the needed goods through free trade.
Changes in credit and what a consumer can borrow is a good start. A good example are mortgages...in Canada we have strict rules where you have to have at least 5% down and anything below 20% down, you must have mortgage insurance. The maximum number of years is 30 for a mortgage and you can only refinance a maximum of 85% of the value in the home. These rules are in place to make sure the owner can first of all afford the home and it is a reason why we didn't have the same mortgage issues as you did in the states. The risk is in the financial institutions hands, not the consumers.
If anything, you (and we) should be protesting ourselves for not being fiscally responsible and making "debt" a good thing.
Originally posted by vjr1113
reply to post by sugarcookie1
yea that teabagger protest was the only one in a long time in my neck of the woods. not much goin on in la, the prices are reaching 4 bucks too. i know a teabagger leader, he comes by our shop from time to time, i hold my words a lot, they're mostly concerned about eliminating taxes and deporting immigrants, yet THEIR shops are full of mexicans.
gas isn't a problem for them, but the rest of us have to work, i wish i could protest, but were not really organized over here. ill keep an eye out for rallies tho.
Originally posted by rcubed1080
Unfortunately we're all too busy with our lives to take time to protest in mass. We all have long days of work, that pay us just enough to go home, eat, sleep, wake up and do it again. Some of us might have time to take a weekend and do something, but even fewer have the funds to do so.
Besides weekends are the time when our modern versions of the coliseum matches are aired: our sports games, the great American distractor. "Well work stank this week, but hey, My Team won their game this week!"
Most of us seem to have just enough to stay inside of our lil' comfort-zone. And those who are suffering currently are there to remind us of what happens if we don't work to stay in our lil' comfort-zone. The poor and unemployed are there to scare the crap out of us who do have some form of a job.
Until this county stops being able to supply jobs to the majority of Americans, we're gonna keep on going in to our underpaying dead-end jobs, thanking God that we still have a job, and turning on that sports game to take our mind off the day-to-day mindlessness that we are enslaved to.
Originally posted by Target Earth
It seems to me people still have something to lose, The people in the Middle East have nothing to lose...
until the government totally ruins this country, people are not going to amass in protest. I really wish we would... I think most people are just hoping this all blows over, because we have survived bad presidents before... but this is the worst one we have ever had, I pray that these next few years go by quickly.
Originally posted by sugarcookie1
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by sugarcookie1
The sad reality is that a clearcut majority of GOP driven protests are rooted in racism and hate. The mantra is to make Obama a "1 Term President" and that is all that matters to these Anti American racist pos!edit on 6-3-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)
Well, I am a Republican, and while I disagree with many of the president's policies, I don't hate him because he is black nor am i a racist..Its his policies i don't care for
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
Originally posted by sugarcookie1
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by sugarcookie1
The sad reality is that a clearcut majority of GOP driven protests are rooted in racism and hate. The mantra is to make Obama a "1 Term President" and that is all that matters to these Anti American racist pos!edit on 6-3-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)
Well, I am a Republican, and while I disagree with many of the president's policies, I don't hate him because he is black nor am i a racist..Its his policies i don't care for
Without taking one page out of the GOP Talking points what exactly are you against? To say, he's a Muslim or a Socialist means you unequivocally nothing to bring to the table hence why if that is the case there will not be a plate made for you.
Originally posted by Anttyk47
Are you starving? Do you not have internet?
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by sugarcookie1
What policy are you against exactly? What has this nation done that is so vile, disgusting that would make you be against any particular policy?
Have you lost your job due to the policy? Been kicked outta your home? Been dropped from your insurance because you got sick?edit on 7-3-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by sugarcookie1
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by sugarcookie1
What policy are you against exactly? What has this nation done that is so vile, disgusting that would make you be against any particular policy?
Have you lost your job due to the policy? Been kicked outta your home? Been dropped from your insurance because you got sick?edit on 7-3-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)
I wont get into a debate with you over this it just causes problems but this is some of the things i dont like:
He has fundamentally changed our health care system into something not capitalistic -- Since when is profits before people the mantra?
He has spent us in a huge hole with graft and ear marks- Your loving Fuher put $13 Trillion on the card and Obama thus far has put like a quarter.
He has constantly broken promises - All promises made are to be kept even he and The WH knows this.
He has pushed through legislation with arm twisting zeal against both the other party and 59% of the nation-Patriot Act 2001 (No one was allowed to read the bill but 1 lone Senator and he was the sole vote against) ring a bell?
He has made us less safe by cutting the military, missile defense and nuclear arms -No nation shall have enough nukes or mass destruction capable weapons to annihalate the planet 50 times over. Just because Defense or the Intel Alphabet Groups is getting less money now don't mean jack squat as each more then can afford and sustain just about every operation currently ongoing and then some.
He has made us less safe by reaching out to our enemies and avoiding our friends - So war is the exclusive end all, be all solution to everything? So sorry, if that was the case we would've been wiped from the planet by now with a militarial equal for which there are 2. When we all come together great things do in fact happen and have you noticed that there is a global downtick in terrorism events? Only limited to Afghanistan and occasionally Iraq. Beyond that, the last attack outside of both and the Middle East in general was in the Mumbai attacks.
He has made us poorer with his bail outs - The banks made all of us poorer because they are scum sucking weasels who want it all.
I wont go any further with what i think id like to keep this so it doesnt turn into some hate thread
thanks for your reply
Originally posted by boondock-saint
Originally posted by Anttyk47
Are you starving? Do you not have internet?
maybe your asking the wrong questions.
I probably would have asked in amongst
those:
Are you getting enough sex???
I think there would never be a Revolution
if all a man had to do was walk into ANY
bar and there were women lined up to
give him plenty of free sex just for the asking.
Who in their right mind would give that
utopia up ??? lmao