Originally posted by dolphinfan
reply to post by TheWalkingFox
Only a matter of time before someone brought the race card into this thread. You must be proud.
No, but I am informed and I am educated in the use of rhetoric and the reading of context and author's intent. I know how propaganda is used, and I'm
well versed in "code." Literacy is a whole lot more than just being able to repeat words on a page. If, for a moment you think that there is not a
racial aspect going on here, then I am sad to inform you that you are painfully ignorant.
This thread might as well be titled "Barack Obama is uppity and doesn't know his place!" - matter of fact that could go for a lot of the discourse
directed at him.
Perhaps he is doing a lot of work - I don't doubt that he is working his tail off. I do doubt the productivity of his labor and view the
country as rudderless at the moment, but again, I guess thats a racist opinion.
Not at all racist. Just painfully misinformed. Y'see, the President is not a king. He does not rule by Fiat (and frankly I'm increasingly glad for
that.) He can put in all the hours in the day, and whether it bears fruit is completely up to the legislative branch
- which at the moment is
dominated by the party who stated that their agenda is to make sure that Obama fails.
On just about every level I see this President as failing to provide leadership.
And I'm sure that with your already-stated bias, even if he were ot display tremendous leadership, you would ignore it. As you already have -
presumably because the things he's shown leadership on don't conform to your own political desires.
In light of that, I simply don't think that hosting star-studded events is a prudent thing to do.
Well, fact is that out of the three hundred and seven million people in the United States, the vast majority really don't give a damn what you think.
Being one of the unfortunate few exposed to your opinion, I have to wonder at your double standards here.
Barack Obama: hosts a one-day celebration of a cultural phenomena that revitalized American music
George Bush: Clowns around in his living room looking for the WMD's that he started a war over; a war in which over 4.439 Americans have lost their
lives, along with nearly a million Iraqis and another four miullion displaced and refugees.
But Bush gave up golf, except on his golf day, so he deserves praise.
How about seeing him sitting down with the congressional leadership trying to hammer out a budgetagreement
Because he's already submitted a budget that bends over backwards to appease the republicans. Seriously, that thing looks like something ghostwritten
by the Heritage Foundation.
rather than sticking his nose into a state issue (Wisconsin)?
Because what happens in Wisconsin will impact the rest of the nation. This isn't 1861 anymore; the states are not separate entities. What happens in
one WILL affect what happens in another, and another. Thus a state issue often becomes a natiuonal issue. And when that issue has the potential to rip
apart the already fragile economic standing of millions of Americans in the one state, and millions more elsewhere, I think it's very prudent for the
president to weigh in.
By the by, ever noticed how "states rights" are always
about the state's ability to strip rights and protections from someone conservatives
hate? Why is that?
How about addressing the issue on the southern border in a way other than not addressing it?
Because he knows, just as well as I'm sure you do, that the border - like gay marriage and so many other right-wing "booga booga!" tactics, is
Are people coming over the border illegally? Yup. Know what the solution is? Make it legal. Seriously, the primary reason for tight southern border
security is mainly tradition; it's always been like that so we should always keep it that way. Of course this ignores the plain fact that that
security is there thanks to the Eugenicist and blatantly racist foreign policies of the Wilson Administration. It made no logical sense then, and it
makes no logical sense now.
If Mexican oranges and cucumbers can come across the border, there's no reason Mexican people shouldn't be able to as well, with the same precautions
we have on the northenr border (which, ironically, prevents you from taking oranges and cucumbers on your fishing trips.)
The secondary reason for the "border problems" is the "War on drugs." All those drug lords in the northern Mexican states? They're funded pretty much
directly by the DEA and Border patrol; these two agencies drive the price of drugs sky-high, resulting in exorbitant profits for the providers; and
being addictive, the cost does not diminish the consumer demand. The solution here is again, legalize.
Basically, solving the border issues in any logical method results in more frenzied squealing from persons who are either pissed that mud people are
coming into our pristine Aryan enclave, or that god's laws are being violated by allowing intoxicants to go unpunished by man's law.
How about actually coming up with pragmatic approaches to improve the job market?
Same reason he doesn't touch the border; all the intelligent and working solutions lean heavily to the left, which Obama - and the people who he's
trying to kiss up to - most certainly do not. A massive public works programme would be very effective for both the job market and our nation's
Say it with me now, "BUT THAT'S SOCIALISM!!!!!!!"
How about taking a look at the overnight polling data he receives every day and actually publically addressing the issues that
Didn't you just gripe about him saying something about Wisconsin?
But then again, if you disagree with this gent folks will assume you disagree with him because you are a racist.
That's a straw man, unfortunately. It's not the fact of disagreement, but the manner in which the disagreement is expressed. Again, context. Keep it
in mind and you won't have to backpedal next time.
I did not care for Bush either and think his policies were a disaster, particularily in the foreign policy arena.
But he gave up golf except for when he went to play golf, so that makes him an A-list dude!
I guess that makes me a member of the Black Panthers.
No, because the Black Panthers contributed to the society around them. I just can't imagine that you would ever work a ladle in a soup kitchen, nor
provide free daycare service for families running two or three jobs. So no, a Black Panther you definitely are not.
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