[HOAX]Please help. I have evidence but I get laughed at.[HOAX]

Originally posted by adam79
I had the flash on, snapped, and kept snapping. No long exposure.

OH REALLY?

Not only does it say your FLASH DID NOT FIRE... but it also says you had it set to 2 SECOND EXPOSURE.

EXIF DATA:

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Model : X400,D580Z,C460Z
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DateTime : 0000:00:00 00:00:00
ExposureTime : 2.00Sec
MaxApertureValue : F2.9
Flash : Not fired
FocalLength : 5.80(mm)

On this image:
s1105.photobucket.com...

reply to post by adam79


No one is "laughing at you" in here, I did laugh at the light writing though. We are logically breaking down what you are showing us in a neutral manner but it does seem like you might be messing with us. If you have information that can help mankind, by all means share the wealth. This evidence you present isn't changing the world any time soon though.

reply to post by adam79


Nobody here is laughing at you. However, we are telling you facts of the evidence you presented.
Fact 1: you took long exposure photos at a light source - thus created the lines
Fact 2: Light writing, a common form of art, was done - thus the word s e x

As someone who chose the career of forensics....evidence speaks louder than testimony. The evidence says: no UFO.....results of photo is due to camera setting and user holding the camera.

Just sayn'

Originally posted by SonoftheSun

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
OK, I took a very quick look and I can already tell you that you were using a long exposure on your camera which caused this effect in your pictures...

Care to explain?

Made the same point...

Didn't get an answer yet either.

So by long exposure you mean keeping the shutter open and "drawing" with the camera? If I could be creative like that, I would choose not to waste everyone's time here.

So what else can I do to prove I'm not b.s.ing everyone? I just want some open minded opinions. I'm not a hoaxer. I'm not lying. I'm not delusional. I'm a sober man of sound mind.

reply to post by adam79


You are receiving answers based on truth and facts. That should be the answers you seek: Truth.

Have you looked at the links provided to you? They are the answer you seek.

reply to post by adam79


-Your camera was set to 2 sec exposure, hence the blurs.
-The moon was behind the clouds and appeared normal.
-You captured a few orbs in some shots, about as common as capturing a tree in the woods.
-We took you seriously and broke down what you showed us.

If you have more evidence please share, as of now you have all the answers we can supply you.

reply to post by adam79


No doubt Adam.

I am not laughing at you. I am not saying you are being dishonest. And as a member here, I respect you.

But the EXIF data clearly shows without a doubt that you camera was on slow exposure. Fact. Undeniable.

So I don't know what else to tell you.

Wish I did.

Really interesting photos. Since videos/photos are so inconclusive, I always prefer first hand accounts and experiences.

The pics on the moon that show almost like yarn that has a ply or twist, a friend took pics of the moon one night after coming home from work in Finland that was very odd and identical, he said the moon was far too large that night.

We don't know a lot of things, our brain are hardwired to only pick up a small ultra violet and channel frequency. This is a matrix.

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
reply to post by adam79

 

Nobody here is laughing at you. However, we are telling you facts of the evidence you presented.
Fact 1: you took long exposure photos at a light source - thus created the lines
Fact 2: Light writing, a common form of art, was done - thus the word s e x

As someone who chose the career of forensics....evidence speaks louder than testimony. The evidence says: no UFO.....results of camera setting and user holding the camera.

Just sayn'

edit on February 14th 2011 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)

These are not facts!!! I'm not using any trickery, and if I WAS to be creative why not make fake alien symbols? Or a message from the ghost world? I guess I can't prove my honesty here, but I refuse to feign stupidity, and seriously, a picture that says sex, a faux moon and one orb sounds seriously crazy to ME!!!! Thats why I posted here, because I can't turn anywhere else. I can only give you what I managed to get. Furthermore, if I am not believed here, I guess the next step is just giving up. This is all really embarrassing and I never wanted to do it, but I want to know 2 things: WHAT and WHY. I just hoped for insight on those two things by coming here.

I don't want attention or acceptance, just insight.

ANYTHING else I can do or info I can provide I will gladly give.

Its not a camera trick I'm pulling off, believe me, I've seen better plays with exposure, in polaroids and classic cameras. The open shutter trick is nothing new.

If there is someone out there who would just open their mind to a real possibility, my ears and eyes are open.

I have no desire to make a fool of anyone here, get myself banned, or make enemies. But I'm not going to pretend all this never happened.

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
reply to post by adam79

 

Nobody here is laughing at you. However, we are telling you facts of the evidence you presented.
Fact 1: you took long exposure photos at a light source - thus created the lines
Fact 2: Light writing, a common form of art, was done - thus the word s e x

As someone who chose the career of forensics....evidence speaks louder than testimony. The evidence says: no UFO.....results of camera setting and user holding the camera.

Just sayn'

edit on February 14th 2011 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)

These are not facts!!! I'm not using any trickery, and if I WAS to be creative why not make fake alien symbols? Or a message from the ghost world? I guess I can't prove my honesty here, but I refuse to feign stupidity, and seriously, a picture that says sex, a faux moon and one orb sounds seriously crazy to ME!!!! Thats why I posted here, because I can't turn anywhere else. I can only give you what I managed to get. Furthermore, if I am not believed here, I guess the next step is just giving up. This is all really embarrassing and I never wanted to do it, but I want to know 2 things: WHAT and WHY. I just hoped for insight on those two things by coming here.

I don't want attention or acceptance, just insight.

ANYTHING else I can do or info I can provide I will gladly give.

Its not a camera trick I'm pulling off, believe me, I've seen better plays with exposure, in polaroids and classic cameras. The open shutter trick is nothing new.

If there is someone out there who would just open their mind to a real possibility, my ears and eyes are open.

I have no desire to make a fool of anyone here, get myself banned, or make enemies. But I'm not going to pretend all this never happened.

This image is of the moon...

s1105.photobucket.com...

ImageDescription : OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA
Model : X400,D580Z,C460Z
ExposureTime : 2.00Sec
FNumber : F3.1
MaxApertureValue : F2.9
Flash : Fired(Auto)
FocalLength : 5.80(mm)
SceneCaptureType : Night scene
GainControl : High gain up
DateTimeOriginal : 0000:00:00 00:00:00
DateTimeDigitized : 0000:00:00 00:00:00

Not only is it a 2 second long exposure to light, but it is also set to "high gain". What you see in the image is not what is seen with the naked eye.

I am curious why/how the date time is set to all zero... Hey OP, care to tell us what date and time you took the images?

The rest of the images all seem to be long exposure shots of the moon.....

reply to post by adam79


Im not accusing you of doing something wrong.
But they are facts. The EXIF data is the facts that show the evidence what it is.
I am simply looking at the evidence and giving the information based on the evidence provided.

EXIF data for the "light writing"

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Originally posted by Unity_99
Really interesting photos. Since videos/photos are so inconclusive, I always prefer first hand accounts and experiences.

The pics on the moon that show almost like yarn that has a ply or twist, a friend took pics of the moon one night after coming home from work in Finland that was very odd and identical, he said the moon was far too large that night.

We don't know a lot of things, our brain are hardwired to only pick up a small ultra violet and channel frequency. This is a matrix.

This moon looked almost artificial. It was way too big, and seemed almost "reachable". I would dismiss the "fake moon" idea if it hadn't drawn in clouds (in a circular fashion, in other words, the clouds didn't just go in on direction, but all around it advanced toward the center) or "shed" those glittery blue and green things.

Of further note, those blue and green things seemed to fade and disappear when they hit the grass. They fell from it and landed it seconds, giving me the impression that the moon-like thing wasn't so far from the ground.

EXIF data for the other "light art"

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[Thumbnail]
Thumbnail = 160 x 120

Originally posted by adam79

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
reply to post by adam79

 

Nobody here is laughing at you. However, we are telling you facts of the evidence you presented.
Fact 1: you took long exposure photos at a light source - thus created the lines
Fact 2: Light writing, a common form of art, was done - thus the word s e x

As someone who chose the career of forensics....evidence speaks louder than testimony. The evidence says: no UFO.....results of camera setting and user holding the camera.

Just sayn'

edit on February 14th 2011 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)

These are not facts!!!

The first one is a fact. The EXIF data shows it to be so.

I'm not using any trickery, and if I WAS to be creative why not make fake alien symbols? Or a message from the ghost world?

Because 1) That would take a lot more work and 2) other than the EXIF data, this is a lot more plausible. Or maybe your'e not tricking us, and you thought you saw something that happened to coincide with you taking bad pictures of the moon.

I guess I can't prove my honesty here, but I refuse to feign stupidity, and seriously, a picture that says sex, a faux moon and one orb sounds seriously crazy to ME!!!! Thats why I posted here, because I can't turn anywhere else. I can only give you what I managed to get. Furthermore, if I am not believed here, I guess the next step is just giving up.

If you truly believe that this is what happened, then giving up is not the solution. Presenting your story in ways that don't seem to contradict your story is the next step -- because the photographic evidence obviously cannot be trusted, you have to remove that from your story.

This is all really embarrassing and I never wanted to do it, but I want to know 2 things: WHAT and WHY. I just hoped for insight on those two things by coming here.

I don't want attention or acceptance, just insight.

Then why are you screaming for acceptance and ignoring our insight?

If there is someone out there who would just open their mind to a real possibility, my ears and eyes are open.

They clearly aren't. Your story was approached by about a dozen people, most of whom desperately want to believe. Your shreds of evidence were revealed as unreliable and having the marks of a hoax. You are the one shutting your ears and eyes to truth and evidence.

I have no desire to make a fool of anyone here, get myself banned, or make enemies. But I'm not going to pretend all this never happened.

If it really happened --e ven if you just believe that it really happened -- then pretending it didn't would be wrong and dishonest. But you have to understand that your evidence has been analyzed here precisely as you shared it and precisely on its own merit, and has been found to be severely lacking.

EXIF for one of the moon photos...

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[Camera]
Exposure Time = 2"
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Scene Type = A directly photographed image
Custom Rendered = Normal process
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White Balance = Auto white balance
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Scene Capture Type = Night scene
Gain Control = High gain up
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Another light art photo

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Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
This image is of the moon...

s1105.photobucket.com...

ImageDescription : OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA
Model : X400,D580Z,C460Z
ExposureTime : 2.00Sec
FNumber : F3.1
MaxApertureValue : F2.9
Flash : Fired(Auto)
FocalLength : 5.80(mm)
SceneCaptureType : Night scene
GainControl : High gain up
DateTimeOriginal : 0000:00:00 00:00:00
DateTimeDigitized : 0000:00:00 00:00:00

Not only is it a 2 second long exposure to light, but it is also set to "high gain". What you see in the image is not what is seen with the naked eye.

I am curious why/how the date time is set to all zero... Hey OP, care to tell us what date and time you took the images?

The rest of the images all seem to be long exposure shots of the moon.....

I believe it was either friday or saturday, first week of november in 2010. I remember because I got paid that weekend

reply to post by adam79


There is a fresh thread of someone witnessing a pole shift?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Are people seeing the moon and stars dance across the sky? There is no friction in space, if the Earth spun like a top we would not be sticking to our chairs from gravity, it would spin in zero gravity. Is the planet dancing around when WE aren't looking? We wouldn't really feel it but we would see it by the objects in the sky moving sharply.

Could this be what you think you saw and tried to photograph?