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The fact is, the certificate that he does have is not sufficient without some corroboration, they have not offered any witnesses or hospital documents to corroborate it, so it is insufficient, but it is also moot, because he got into office and he has enough support to stay there.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by Angelicdefender2012
This story was posted on ATS a week ago when it was written and the thread was closed.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
I researched the issue at that time and my thought is that there's no credible evidence of foul play as regards this SS number.
I don't mean to be arrogant about it, but I don't say this because I am pro-Obama. I say this because of the research I've done.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1
I will check on this with our Supervisor of Elections this week. I am 99% certain that you are wrong. Our Tea Party helped put people on the ballot last year, and my brother began a run for US House a couple of elections ago, and I don't remember anything about any background checks. It is also not in the Statutes that I could find.
If you can site the legal authority for what you say, then I will gladly admit defeat, but I have not found it so far in any Florida statutes. It is not on the Supervisor of Elections website, there is no fee associated with it, and as far as I am concerned it is still a figment of your imagination until you prove me wrong. I will call our Supervisor of Elections though to verify, and I encourage you to post something to back up what you say.
according to Special Agent-in-Charge: C. Frank Figliuzzi of the Cleveland FBI. Background checks are not performed on those elected, once elected they work for Congress and are handed a secret clearance. See below:
This is a conversation between the Special Agent-in-Charge: C. Frank Figliuzzi of the Cleveland FBI and Mike Trivisonno on the Mike Trivisonno Show, WTAM 1100, 7/02/08, Hr. 2.
Caller – Do they perform background checks on candidates and fellows who are in Congress and the Senate and perhaps potential presidential candidates?.
FBI – The short answer is no, no we don’t, but they’re given top secret clearances because they’re members of Congress, or Senators, or even higher ranking officials.
Host – Time out. There are no background checks from the FBI on the people that lead the country, the United States of America?.
FBI – Let me emphasize, elected officials. This is a democracy, the people have elected an official to represent them in Washington, and we do not routinely run background checks on those people.
Host – Even people running for president of the United States of America?.
FBI – That’s correct.
Host – That’s a little weird
FBI – Well, its part of democracy, its part of what the American people want, they want to be able to vote for somebody to represent them in Washington and they don’t want us to get in the way of that and we have no predilection to get in the way of that.
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by getreadyalready
Both parents do not have to be American citizens, that only applies to the candidate. There is no stipulation to that. As long as one parent is complaint under the terms listed in the 14th Amendment that made all person's born inside US borders as citizens and every state adopted into the untion since has since adopted and recognized it and do recognize other's citizens as American citizens as well. There is no requirement saying that the parents have to be married when the child was both concieved and born.
The 14th Amendment defined the term "Natural Born Citizen" as "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." Since Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961 making him a fully flegged 100% legal born resident of The US and did not make him an "anchor baby" as that is defined as having both parents born in another nation.
Kenya became an independant nation in 1963. It was annexed by The UK in 1895 of which neither means anything.
Oh yeah, any person holding dual citizenship is not allowed to run as the allegiance aspect is shaky at best.
Indonesia where Obama did live between 1967 - 1971 but he retained his citizenship with the US as Indonesia does not recognize dual citizenship for foriegn born persons as that is reserved for Ambassador's and Attaches.edit on 16-2-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Califemme
Listen up. I'm from a military family and I can say I know better than most the rule of citizebships.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by Califemme
Listen up. I'm from a military family and I can say I know better than most the rule of citizebships.
Oh, PLEASE! You're from a military family and so we're just supposed to take your word for it? Sorry. Military families don't have a special education that the rest of us missed. Citizens are either born citizens or naturalized,as the Constitution says.
Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
Don't feed the trolls as they are here to cause chaos and to upset the overall peaceful flow of info that this site has. Even when presented with facts they want to claim that everyone is wrong and they are right. Morons if you ask me.
Obama was born in Hawaii Aug 04 1961 and Hawaii was made our 50th State on August 21, 1959 making every person bon in Hawaii after that date as AUTOMATIC FULLY FLEGGED, 100& LEGAL CITIZENS OF THE US BY BIRTH.
edit on 16-2-2011 by TheImmaculateD1 because: (no reason given)