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posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 02:07 PM
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That sounds good and all but some of us do not have 20 posts yet, so we can not send Private Messages, so how about you share a few more things and/or answer a few questions that you can answer Publicly?

edit on 13-2-2011 by TheDreamerCalledJohn because: Typo




posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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He/she wont share it here because they know they'll get exposed by facts



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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You may be right, but I think we should give the Original Poster (OP) a chance or a few chances first.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 02:25 PM
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Nice thread(s) !

S&F

.... looks like you've worked it out

I'm surprised our evil NWO captains haven't 404'd this one !

edit on 13-2-2011 by radarloveguy because: .... and welcome to ATS !



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 02:27 PM
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Another misdirection from whats happening in the worlds skys during 3/11/2011 thur 3/12/2011 visible with Stellarium all over the world,without those damn old chemtrails.All the religious characters(celestial objects) past and present will act out their stories with the planets,comets,stars/sun, moon becoming Again the gods,goddesses.saviors,titans, angels and demons.comets are the prophets,the sun is the saviors across the world with different names from each culture etc.etc.etc during this time of 3/11/2011 thur 3/12/2011 across the world.Dim the sun/son and atmosphere(adams spear) to see this once in a progression/lifetime event of the beginning of all religions and characters AND the restarting of all of the ancient calendars Has the news media said anything about these amazing events,hmmmm,wonder why?Keep looking down at your feet,Down at the oil,Down at the dead animals,Down under the gulf,Down at the dead fish ,look Down at the snow, look Down where the media news points 99.999% of these times.Even the reporters in Egypt are/were giving us a downward view 99.999 % of the time.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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IMO- When someone claims to have the answers to everything and facts to back them up, they are either lying or delusional.
Posters have asked for details. They received the lame response that they wouldn't understand facts if the OP did provide them.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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Hopefully we will find out, let us give the OP some time.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by TheDreamerCalledJohn
reply to post by specialdelivery
 


That was definitely an interesting read, thank you for sharing that.


1. What would they hope to gain with a fake Messiah Stunt, if the World is going to Re-Boot/Be Upgraded/Or Whatever?

2. Is their hope to still control after the Re-Boot/Upgrade?

3. Or is this just a hopeless attempt to stay in control on their part?

4. Was this Character that really was not named Jesus really Human?

5. What was his original purpose?

6. How did he come back?

7. Why did he come back?

8. If this Character supposedly existed, what about some of the other Characters told through other Myths/Religions that came Way Before Christianity/Judaism?

9. Is there no Female Character/Characters, Goddess/Goddesses?

10. If we have an eternal consciousness/soul/spirit what is it really?

11. How is it formed?

12. When is it formed?

13. Is it a type of Matter of the Natural World, but just one of many things we Humans have a harder time detecting and/or can not detect at all with our normal senses?

14. So the Planet and all Life on it will be physically destroyed/transfered and Re-Booted/Upgraded?

15. So Humans are a type of Demon/Or Something?

16. Where did Humans come from?

17. Where are we going?

18. Do we even have a Purpose/Meaning or do we have to each make our own?

19. Who or what are other Non-Human Human-like Beings on this Planet and where did they come from?

20. When a Human Dies/Is Temporary Disconnected where do we go and is each person's Near Death/Death Experience suppose to be different?

21. What are Dreams all about exactly?

22. So Basically: There Is No Escape?

I could think up many more questions, but I will stop for now.





Alot of questions and alot of answers. The answers will be truthful, so forgive the honesty in advance.

1. What would they hope to gain with a fake Messiah Stunt, if the World is going to Re-Boot/Be Upgraded/Or Whatever? (They are following their ritualistic desire to fulfill the Revelation prophecy as the chosen of Lord Jehovah, a belief that is embedded in the minds of billions)

2. Is their hope to still control after the Re-Boot/Upgrade? (Control? When did you control? Your spirit is childlike and will follow it's desires like a fish follows a dangling worm on a hook without being judgmental of what it desires to become. You are already a victim of free will, and it is this independence that controls your destiny).

3. Or is this just a hopeless attempt to stay in control on their part? (Bingo! The established members who took part in this new project are doing so under the guidance of another for the purposes as prepared long ago).

4. Was this Character that really was not named Jesus really Human? (His spirit came from the airs within the universal spirit, not the airs within this world's spirit or the airs you breathe. His body was manifested using the same nutrients and proteins of the soil that fashioned your mind and body from nothing more than the invisible inside the womb, so in fact, he inhabited the environment of a human body to exist among others as a human and to speak to others from a human perspective).

5. What was his original purpose? (The same as always, for the same reason his spirit entered numerous times before throughout the millions of years here, or throughout other worldly environments, first to prepare, second to condemn and release. The universal spirit has no emotion and is not about good or bad or reward or punishment, this is a human created concept - it is about division and placement).

6. How did he come back? (Same as the last, by entering through the airs of this world and then the physical body of a paternal mother to fashion the mind and body)

7. Why did he come back? (Design! The design of the spirit is the purpose of the spirit, to divide and prepare for division where half remain within the room of this environment and half are reborn into the womb of the universal spirit)

8. If this Character supposedly existed, what about some of the other Characters told through other Myths/Religions that came Way Before Christianity/Judaism? (All the characters existed, but humans exaggerate to fulfill their own agendas, even the one who is traditionally referred to as Jesus never broke fish and bread and converted them into 5,000 pieces or walked on the waters of a lake bed, it is human writers who add these exaggerations to give breath of life to their own agendas in fairytales).

9. Is there no Female Character/Characters, Goddess/Goddesses? (Funny, in the universe, every being is both male and female as one procreative being, where none are possessed as spouse, parent, child, but all are independent and as one with the creator, the male-female spirit which is the embodiment of the whole, named ALL, A-L-L. Sorry to say, God has no limb, no face, no physical property, and is not a male or a female, but is both as one, the Father is the creator of existence and the Mother is the womb that provides environment to facilitate existence, and together as one, they being ALL are one universal Spirit)

10. If we have an eternal consciousness/soul/spirit what is it really? *Your answer is in your question, the spirit is eternal conscious awareness of existence - with or without attachment to the physical body).

11. How is it formed? (Wha came first, the chicken or the egg? The thought! The thought is the seed that first fashions the beginnings of creation of the egg, that forms the chicken, but before the egg, the thought brings the egg to life).

12. When is it formed? (The instantaneous second it is thought into existence, but once it is born, it can never lose conscious awareness of existence in any plane of existence, whether it be physical, or the spirit of airs within the environment of a world, a star or the universe).

13. Is it a type of Matter of the Natural World, but just one of many things we Humans have a harder time detecting and/or can not detect at all with our normal senses? (Humans try to understand non human environments with human understanding which makes as much sense as teaching kindergarten children high school algebra, the human species has no concept of the universe, they even still believe the universe is a composition of dark matter in space and time, when contrary to the evident, it is not).

14. So the Planet and all Life on it will be physically destroyed/transfered and Re-Booted/Upgraded? (This is a natural process of existence in worlds with physical limitation, because this world like you can only grow so much and exist so long before the consciousness separates from the environment of the body it inhabits, then re-attaches to a new environment or operating system of a new body within, so indeed the Krishna belief in Buddhism and Native spiritualist belief in reincarnation here in one form or another is true for half of the human species, while the other half will gravitate to another environment).

15. So Humans are a type of Demon/Or Something? (Humans would be considered demons to living beings beyond this world, they are not to be trusted, nor are they ones who come or offer peace, but conflict! They are in a prison of what the living beings beyond would call a hell. It is expected that if one is imprisoned or enslaced that their mind will try to adjust and make the best of their reality and form whatever imaginable version of ehaven they can while they exist in the circumstances they live with, and here, humans portray themselves as angels, not demons, because the design would not accept the other. Yes indeed, there is not one good human in this world, all were born into conflict both within the body they inhabit and the conflict within the airs they breathe within the environment of the world they inhabit. This is just the truth).

16. Where did Humans come from? (If humans were ever capable of venturing into the universal Spirit and travelling to planets and wanting to exist within atmospheres and physical soils their bodies could not exist within, they would find organisms within the soil to conjoin DNA patterns with allowing them to co-exist within the airs of that environment - humans are a highly evolved DNA pattern of the Worm and yes you can google this to confirm that science is just now learning that the DNA of a worm and human are semi compatible).

17. Where are we going? (Half are goiung nowehere but remaining here, half are leaving the womb of this environment to enter the womb of the universal spirit where like here whatever is imagined becomes, just not in gradual time but instantaneously).

18. Do we even have a Purpose/Meaning or do we have to each make our own? (Existence is the purpose and the Father who created the mother of the universe as an environment fashioned all within to follow pattern. Every star - sun, every world and every conscious being within are fashioned in similar, their purpose is merely to exist within an environment and without the purpose of existence and the ability to perceive existence within an environment and through light - the opposite would be- which is non-existence).

19. Who or what are other Non-Human Human-like Beings on this Planet and where did they come from? (The landlords here are also designs that incorporated pattern through organsims here, they like yourself breathe the airs of this world but are filtered from the sun by living deep below the soils and the cells of their bodies are protecting from sun damaging aging which prolongs their life spans - these landlords played Gods with tribes in the beginnning, they have been regarded as vampires in medieval days and today are simply considered to be aliens, but they are not, they were here before humans, and they will exist beyond this generation of the human phase and be the proprietary landlords yet again for the tenants that form on the lands, yet again, as always).

20. When a Human Dies/Is Temporary Disconnected where do we go and is each person's Near Death/Death Experience suppose to be different? (The memories and indoctrinations a human has is stored inside the airs of thi world, so whatever they believe will be upon separation they will simultaneously create around the vision around them, the spirit is childlike and will only know what it has been trained to know - the spirit is whar created the body and the mind to animate the body and to assist in communication, to enter the spirit plane of the human collective conscious in the dream plane which is really the spirit plane where images are portrayed on the screens of air - once again a human has no true comrehension of the true realities of the invisible, they have a hard enough time accepting what they do see, but for what they do not see, it is the invisible that gives life to the visible).

21. What are Dreams all about exactly? (Connection of spirit to the spirit plane of this world, which exists within the airs you breathe, the dream plane is the human collective conscious which is unified with the conscious that animates the lands, the winds and the seas, it is a plane that appoints imagery now, whereas upon separation from the chains of the body that currently imprison the spirit, only then do the images materialize in spirit within the airs of this world as appointed by the beliefs of the spirit, as indoctrined here, and herein lies the secret that imprisons a lost soul to the darknness of the world, human understanding is the deception of spirit).

22. So Basically: There Is No Escape? (Correct, for half, this room or environment is designed for them and for half there will be escape when they enter the universal scanner of light that reflects your whole life of thought and activity before the eye of the spirit to determine whether the spirit is appropraite for the universal spirit or must remain within the environment of this world).

Thanks for the challenge, I could really get into more details, ALOT ALOT MORE, details that will help you visualize and understand what you never imagined possible, but typing sucks. At least I accepted your questions and answered them for you. Take care.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by TheDreamerCalledJohn
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That was definitely an interesting read, thank you for sharing that.


1. What would they hope to gain with a fake Messiah Stunt, if the World is going to Re-Boot/Be Upgraded/Or Whatever?

2. Is their hope to still control after the Re-Boot/Upgrade?

3. Or is this just a hopeless attempt to stay in control on their part?

4. Was this Character that really was not named Jesus really Human?

5. What was his original purpose?

6. How did he come back?

7. Why did he come back?

8. If this Character supposedly existed, what about some of the other Characters told through other Myths/Religions that came Way Before Christianity/Judaism?

9. Is there no Female Character/Characters, Goddess/Goddesses?

10. If we have an eternal consciousness/soul/spirit what is it really?

11. How is it formed?

12. When is it formed?

13. Is it a type of Matter of the Natural World, but just one of many things we Humans have a harder time detecting and/or can not detect at all with our normal senses?

14. So the Planet and all Life on it will be physically destroyed/transfered and Re-Booted/Upgraded?

15. So Humans are a type of Demon/Or Something?

16. Where did Humans come from?

17. Where are we going?

18. Do we even have a Purpose/Meaning or do we have to each make our own?

19. Who or what are other Non-Human Human-like Beings on this Planet and where did they come from?

20. When a Human Dies/Is Temporary Disconnected where do we go and is each person's Near Death/Death Experience suppose to be different?

21. What are Dreams all about exactly?

22. So Basically: There Is No Escape?

I could think up many more questions, but I will stop for now.





Alot of questions and alot of answers. The answers will be truthful, so forgive the honesty in advance.

1. What would they hope to gain with a fake Messiah Stunt, if the World is going to Re-Boot/Be Upgraded/Or Whatever? (They are following their ritualistic desire to fulfill the Revelation prophecy as the chosen of Lord Jehovah, a belief that is embedded in the minds of billions)

2. Is their hope to still control after the Re-Boot/Upgrade? (Control? When did you control? Your spirit is childlike and will follow it's desires like a fish follows a dangling worm on a hook without being judgmental of what it desires to become. You are already a victim of free will, and it is this independence that controls your destiny).

3. Or is this just a hopeless attempt to stay in control on their part? (Bingo! The established members who took part in this new project are doing so under the guidance of another for the purposes as prepared long ago).

4. Was this Character that really was not named Jesus really Human? (His spirit came from the airs within the universal spirit, not the airs within this world's spirit or the airs you breathe. His body was manifested using the same nutrients and proteins of the soil that fashioned your mind and body from nothing more than the invisible inside the womb, so in fact, he inhabited the environment of a human body to exist among others as a human and to speak to others from a human perspective).

5. What was his original purpose? (The same as always, for the same reason his spirit entered numerous times before throughout the millions of years here, or throughout other worldly environments, first to prepare, second to condemn and release. The universal spirit has no emotion and is not about good or bad or reward or punishment, this is a human created concept - it is about division and placement).

6. How did he come back? (Same as the last, by entering through the airs of this world and then the physical body of a paternal mother to fashion the mind and body)

7. Why did he come back? (Design! The design of the spirit is the purpose of the spirit, to divide and prepare for division where half remain within the room of this environment and half are reborn into the womb of the universal spirit)

8. If this Character supposedly existed, what about some of the other Characters told through other Myths/Religions that came Way Before Christianity/Judaism? (All the characters existed, but humans exaggerate to fulfill their own agendas, even the one who is traditionally referred to as Jesus never broke fish and bread and converted them into 5,000 pieces or walked on the waters of a lake bed, it is human writers who add these exaggerations to give breath of life to their own agendas in fairytales).

9. Is there no Female Character/Characters, Goddess/Goddesses? (Funny, in the universe, every being is both male and female as one procreative being, where none are possessed as spouse, parent, child, but all are independent and as one with the creator, the male-female spirit which is the embodiment of the whole, named ALL, A-L-L. Sorry to say, God has no limb, no face, no physical property, and is not a male or a female, but is both as one, the Father is the creator of existence and the Mother is the womb that provides environment to facilitate existence, and together as one, they being ALL are one universal Spirit)

10. If we have an eternal consciousness/soul/spirit what is it really? *Your answer is in your question, the spirit is eternal conscious awareness of existence - with or without attachment to the physical body).

11. How is it formed? (Wha came first, the chicken or the egg? The thought! The thought is the seed that first fashions the beginnings of creation of the egg, that forms the chicken, but before the egg, the thought brings the egg to life).

12. When is it formed? (The instantaneous second it is thought into existence, but once it is born, it can never lose conscious awareness of existence in any plane of existence, whether it be physical, or the spirit of airs within the environment of a world, a star or the universe).

13. Is it a type of Matter of the Natural World, but just one of many things we Humans have a harder time detecting and/or can not detect at all with our normal senses? (Humans try to understand non human environments with human understanding which makes as much sense as teaching kindergarten children high school algebra, the human species has no concept of the universe, they even still believe the universe is a composition of dark matter in space and time, when contrary to the evident, it is not).

14. So the Planet and all Life on it will be physically destroyed/transfered and Re-Booted/Upgraded? (This is a natural process of existence in worlds with physical limitation, because this world like you can only grow so much and exist so long before the consciousness separates from the environment of the body it inhabits, then re-attaches to a new environment or operating system of a new body within, so indeed the Krishna belief in Buddhism and Native spiritualist belief in reincarnation here in one form or another is true for half of the human species, while the other half will gravitate to another environment).

15. So Humans are a type of Demon/Or Something? (Humans would be considered demons to living beings beyond this world, they are not to be trusted, nor are they ones who come or offer peace, but conflict! They are in a prison of what the living beings beyond would call a hell. It is expected that if one is imprisoned or enslaced that their mind will try to adjust and make the best of their reality and form whatever imaginable version of ehaven they can while they exist in the circumstances they live with, and here, humans portray themselves as angels, not demons, because the design would not accept the other. Yes indeed, there is not one good human in this world, all were born into conflict both within the body they inhabit and the conflict within the airs they breathe within the environment of the world they inhabit. This is just the truth).

16. Where did Humans come from? (If humans were ever capable of venturing into the universal Spirit and travelling to planets and wanting to exist within atmospheres and physical soils their bodies could not exist within, they would find organisms within the soil to conjoin DNA patterns with allowing them to co-exist within the airs of that environment - humans are a highly evolved DNA pattern of the Worm and yes you can google this to confirm that science is just now learning that the DNA of a worm and human are semi compatible).

17. Where are we going? (Half are goiung nowehere but remaining here, half are leaving the womb of this environment to enter the womb of the universal spirit where like here whatever is imagined becomes, just not in gradual time but instantaneously).

18. Do we even have a Purpose/Meaning or do we have to each make our own? (Existence is the purpose and the Father who created the mother of the universe as an environment fashioned all within to follow pattern. Every star - sun, every world and every conscious being within are fashioned in similar, their purpose is merely to exist within an environment and without the purpose of existence and the ability to perceive existence within an environment and through light - the opposite would be- which is non-existence).

19. Who or what are other Non-Human Human-like Beings on this Planet and where did they come from? (The landlords here are also designs that incorporated pattern through organsims here, they like yourself breathe the airs of this world but are filtered from the sun by living deep below the soils and the cells of their bodies are protecting from sun damaging aging which prolongs their life spans - these landlords played Gods with tribes in the beginnning, they have been regarded as vampires in medieval days and today are simply considered to be aliens, but they are not, they were here before humans, and they will exist beyond this generation of the human phase and be the proprietary landlords yet again for the tenants that form on the lands, yet again, as always).

20. When a Human Dies/Is Temporary Disconnected where do we go and is each person's Near Death/Death Experience suppose to be different? (The memories and indoctrinations a human has is stored inside the airs of thi world, so whatever they believe will be upon separation they will simultaneously create around the vision around them, the spirit is childlike and will only know what it has been trained to know - the spirit is whar created the body and the mind to animate the body and to assist in communication, to enter the spirit plane of the human collective conscious in the dream plane which is really the spirit plane where images are portrayed on the screens of air - once again a human has no true comrehension of the true realities of the invisible, they have a hard enough time accepting what they do see, but for what they do not see, it is the invisible that gives life to the visible).

21. What are Dreams all about exactly? (Connection of spirit to the spirit plane of this world, which exists within the airs you breathe, the dream plane is the human collective conscious which is unified with the conscious that animates the lands, the winds and the seas, it is a plane that appoints imagery now, whereas upon separation from the chains of the body that currently imprison the spirit, only then do the images materialize in spirit within the airs of this world as appointed by the beliefs of the spirit, as indoctrined here, and herein lies the secret that imprisons a lost soul to the darknness of the world, human understanding is the deception of spirit).

22. So Basically: There Is No Escape? (Correct, for half, this room or environment is designed for them and for half there will be escape when they enter the universal scanner of light that reflects your whole life of thought and activity before the eye of the spirit to determine whether the spirit is appropraite for the universal spirit or must remain within the environment of this world).

Thanks for the challenge, I could really get into more details, ALOT ALOT MORE, details that will help you visualize and understand what you never imagined possible, but typing sucks. At least I accepted your questions and answered them for you. Take care.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by ProphetEzekiel
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I will Listen;

Speak your Truth.

it is better to Speak, and reach One, than to not Speak, and reach None.


I can be reasched by mail and I will give you my private email and I will give you every truth never known.
Call my bluff and you will see there is no bluffing in me.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 02:53 PM
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Oh I took the time to read not only his original post, but also all the replies, so I suppose I apparently have sufficient patience to wait for more.




posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 02:56 PM
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Personally I liked the OP's thread. A lot of it made perfect sense and much of it I have all ready thought myself.

The religious aspects of it, I dont really care about as I was fortunate enough at a young age to figure out that was all a bunch of baloney. I do believe in a higher power and it resides in my heart. No man shall tell me what I am to believe. I am my own person and my higher power which I consider wisdom I have yet to require a full understanding of, is ALL about LOVE. There is no punishment, there is a teaching to be better, to become better.There are all walks of life and each has its own place in the big picture on so many different levels.

The OP was correct. It is truly amazing to me the things some of the responders here chose to attack first. Punctuation? Really??? Out of all he had to say and that's what you feel you must comment on? That is really rather sad in itself. Considering the thousands and thousands of post on this site, if I were to guess, would it probably be a .5% that are all grammatically correct? Tisk tisk people. Careful of the stones you throw on that minute point. Does one throw away a perfectly new and clean shirt because it has a small wrinkle in it? I think not. That is something that can be ironed out later, and if I were to guess, not all of us are sitting here looking pristine either.I'd even venture to guess there are a lot of wrinkles not to mention some in three day old cloths and no showers either.

I digress though. The baby idea? Well yes, I could see that happening, the story behind it. After just 20 years of the tale being told it could certainly manifest itself into someones truth. Which then of course will be followed by others. In a 100 years all of us who were here to know the truth of what happened will be long gone and not around to tell people what really happened, and even if we were, we probably wouldn't be believed anyway ,or certainly dismissed as some sort of raving crackpots.

The OP did a bang up job of mentioning the madness that surrounds us on a daily basis which we turn a blind eye to for the most part.Unless of course it touches our lives in a personal way, then the tune changes of course.Why are we not in support of trying to change that someway somehow? Well obviously, if you read this thread, it is easier to attack someones grammer, like THAT will make a big difference in the whole issue. oy.

OP I guess I can only address you now and or others that are of the same ilk, Does the madness in this world disturb me? Yes indeed it does. Can I do anything about it on a grand scale? I haven't come to that bridge yet so I do not know. What I do know though is what I can do and I really try everyday as much as possible. I try to share a smile with the people I come in contact with. I say hello to my neighbors. I talk to my trees. I believe in magic, and I remember to say thank you when even the smallest kind deed has been done for me, like letting me out of a parking lot.I know I am not perfect, but I know I have eons of none existent time to get there, and I am working on it in many different dimensions.

Thank you for your post and I just may contact you as one never learns unless one asks.
lol and if I do, no worries, I am a master at reading typos and bad grammar! Im kind of smartly at getting the gist of what is trying to be said!



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by specialdelivery

Originally posted by ProphetEzekiel

I will Listen;

Speak your Truth.

it is better to Speak, and reach One, than to not Speak, and reach None.


I can be reasched by mail and I will give you my private email and I will give you every truth never known.
Call my bluff and you will see there is no bluffing in me.

This sounds promising.
The two of you should get along famously...



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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Wow. That is one big chain of thoughts. So..thank you for the post and info.


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I could care less if some individual claims it is all a hoax. I could care less if the event is a hoax. I reviewed the videos and tend to disagree it is a hoax, and this is why? Even if the videos are hoaxes, the intentions behind them are not a hoax. The videos clearly show an old religious term, “an angel of light descending on the Dome of the Rock”. Clearly the images are clear, and in fact, they are followed by the unexpected abandoned male child shortly thereafter in a highly secured monument. Listen up, hoax or not, they are slowly indoctrinating the world that it happened for future fairytales.


The reallity however shows another picture. It shows that the video was hoax, and that a mother abandoned her baby on a highly religious site. On the other hand however, we all are members on a conspiracy site. And the fact that the MSM promote that event as hoax is suspicious enough for all kind of theories. Could it be an agenda behind that?? I do not know. I could make speculations, but the only problem is the "missing-links". Do not take me wrong, i love conspiracies but i also love "Evidence". And untill evidence been presented all we can do is speculate.


The fact remains it is being promoted on MSN, and the fact remains that propaganda always begins quietly. Even if it was a hoax, even it this was all set up, the intention of using this propaganda to filter the belief that a male born to nobody in Old Jerusalem found in the Dome of the Rock is a campaign to see the Jesus, the Mr. Christ himself is back being reborn in Old Jerusalem. Foresight is all required right now.


See above.


I will be blunt, there are millions of recorded video and snapshots of flying apparatus in the air for evidence, yet people see this and deny what their own eyes have seen. People make crazy claims that UFO's are from distant galaxy or the Pleidian spectrum of the universe, when in fact, THE PROOF IS THAT THEY ARE HERE!


I agree with you as a possibility. But you must also agree that 99% of the alleged "UFO´s" captured on videos are "fake" or they have some other explanations. The fact that we have been visited in the past is possible, considering some evidence such as "Cave-paintings", small statues etc. But beside that, please show us that "Proof" that they are here.


Fact, the crop circles are photo or video evidences of flying saucers are taking place here, not in Mars, not in Pluto, not in another star cluster, BUT HERE. I will tell you why the government does not confirm this.


Yeap. Crop circles are fact.


1) The fear of inter-stellar war is enough for the human mind, but the recognition they dwell amongst you in sophisticated cities below the soils in which humans inhabit would send the world into a panic.


There will be always fear for a war. See it that way. The "Inter-stellar" is just a war on a differnet environment. But nevertheless it´s war. Von braun i think just before he died, he gave an interview , in which he basically said that in order to sustain the military-industrial complex that first a false threat of terrorists would be created and used on the public and then asteroids and finally a false alien threat. I have to find the source though. I think yu get the idea of the "Militarisation" of Space.


2) Humans are natural born liars. They lie to family, to neighbours, to co-workers, to friends, to themselves! What do you expect from a group of natural born liars forming a body of government, media, law enforcement, churches or other? Lies!


I would not not say that we are natural born liars, but we tend to lie often though.


The divine angel of light descending to the Dome of the Rock is followed by a story of a baby male left in the Dome of the Rock, which is a prelude to propaganda for the return of Jesus standing atop the New Mount Zion in the New Heaven and Earth. This is a falsehood, yet the attempt for storytelling in the immediate future is not a false alarm.


I would claim speculation on your side. See at the beginning of my post.


Congratulations doomsdayers, you desire some phenomenal event to confirm life here is not so boring and there is something more, this time it is for real. Imagine a choir of singers at a church - now imagine billions all at once screaming all at once, "whoooaaaa-aahhhhhh". Still sound exciting?


Well, it will be one of it´s kind experience. Almost 7 billion people scream at once"whoooaaaa-aahhhhhh".



If just one of you knew what I know, not believe, but what I know, you would be in absolute shock. I have every answer imaginable in the palm of my hands and I have to sit around listening to people who proudly boast opinions without true knowledge, speaking highly because they paid taxes and have a right to opinionize against a government. Listen up! Your governments are as real as your fictional Gods, they are a creation of the human mind and can only exist with the compliance of the masses. And compliance is best achieved through control by intimidation of loss or violence.


Sure, you might have every answer on your hands, but do you have also "Evidence"?? As for the Governments, i think we all know who is behind.


I assure you now, all of you exist in a phase of human generation where for once humans and animals and fish and birds are not the only one facing death, but the planet as well. It will need to erase the memories on the hard drive and format a new, this is not fiction or fairytale, but in actuality, scheduled.


Every beginning has an end. And every end it´s a new beggining.


Sorry if the words come across wrong, truth is a bitter pill, it is a virus that attacks the disease of lies in this world, and the disease is in the very airs you breathe and exhale. If you want to meet an alien, look into a mirror, you dear alien, created this body that is always changing from nothing more than a speck of air. What you see in the mirror is an alien and the spacesuit you wear here is temporary before separating. You will never consciously know death, but separation and division. The magic of the universe unfolds.





By the way, the faithful are in for a shock. Their Jesus who was never really named Jesus two thousand years ago and was hung by the neck, not crucified, was not brought back by a stork a week ago. Their Jesus whom they invited to Jerusalem to learn their doctrine of deceit, whom fought with the establishment and told their churches the Lord they worshipped was the devil in disguise, whom defied their proposal to enter Judea or Rome to unite the ultimate Testament of Power between the Romans and the Israelites of Hebrew lines, that Jesus who was never named Jesus or "the christ" has already been back for a while. To say the least in all fairness, he is quite unhappy with what is being said and done. Plus he does not plan to stay around this world forever, but to return to an environment where war, misery, injustice and death is non-existent. See if you can figure this oneout? The riddle ends here. See if the super sleuths can put all this together.


I do not like to repeat my self but as i said in the begining of my post. "The reallity however shows another picture. It shows that the video was hoax, and that a mother abandoned her baby on a highly religious site. On the other hand however, we all are members on a conspiracy site. And the fact that the MSM promote that event as hoax is suspicious enough for all kind of theories. Could it be an agenda behind that?? I do not know. I could make speculations, but the only problem is the "missing-links". Do not take me wrong, i love conspiracies but i also love "Evidence". And untill evidence been presented all we can do is speculate."


The fun of it all.


I couldn´t agree more.


Peace



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 03:00 PM
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you sure showed me, I applaud you sir for taking the time you put into all this

I think I fully understand what you were saying now, and I apologize for my earlier remarks.
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posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 03:14 PM
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Wow! Thank you very much for taking the time to answer All of those Questions.


I still do not have 20 posts yet to send Private Messages or my e-mail, but I would like to hear/read/ask more.


I will try to follow this post and maybe I will ask some more questions.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 03:15 PM
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Good, good, I see.



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 03:50 PM
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I wonder which religious wacks will crucify jesus this time...



posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 03:50 PM
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Starred and Flagged.

This has been a very interesting read and food for thought.

Humanity is a huge mess right now and you do bring out some good points as to the reasons why. And even though I do not agree with everything you mention (moon landing being one of them) I'd like to say Thank you for a very good "out of the ordinary" thread.




posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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This post is not written to be smooth, nor is it written to be fluent, but written as a jagged pattern of sentences without grammarical structure to riddle the mind, to make one think on a conscious and a subliminal level. It is a mere seed of thought, but a seed can grow.

I am going to be forthright. Today on MSN they are promoting the Jewish UFO videos at en.video.sympatico.ca...

I could care less if some individual claims it is all a hoax. I could care less if the event is a hoax. I reviewed the videos and tend to disagree it is a hoax, and this is why? Even if the videos are hoaxes, the intentions behind them are not a hoax. The videos clearly show an old religious term, “an angel of light descending on the Dome of the Rock”. Clearly the images are clear, and in fact, they are followed by the unexpected abandoned male child shortly thereafter in a highly secured monument. Listen up, hoax or not, they are slowly indoctrinating the world that it happened for future fairytales.

The fact remains it is being promoted on MSN, and the fact remains that propaganda always begins quietly. Even if it was a hoax, even it this was all set up, the intention of using this propaganda to filter the belief that a male born to nobody in Old Jerusalem found in the Dome of the Rock is a campaign to see the Jesus, the Mr. Christ himself is back being reborn in Old Jerusalem. Foresight is all required right now.

I will be blunt, there are millions of recorded video and snapshots of flying apparatus in the air for evidence, yet people see this and deny what their own eyes have seen. People make crazy claims that UFO's are from distant galaxy or the Pleidian spectrum of the universe, when in fact, THE PROOF IS THAT THEY ARE HERE!

Fact, the crop circles are photo or video evidences of flying saucers are taking place here, not in Mars, not in Pluto, not in another star cluster, BUT HERE. I will tell you why the government does not confirm this.

1) The fear of inter-stellar war is enough for the human mind, but the recognition they dwell amongst you in sophisticated cities below the soils in which humans inhabit would send the world into a panic.

2) Humans are natural born liars. They lie to family, to neighbours, to co-workers, to friends, to themselves! What do you expect from a group of natural born liars forming a body of government, media, law enforcement, churches or other? Lies!

UFOs are not new whatsoever, the Chariots of the Gods movie depicted long standing evidence they have been here since long before we know. The only problem with the movie is once again, the movie concocted a scenario where these beings that were here long ago might be from the star systems. The fact is…they are here!

They have always been here. Who do you think was talking to Moses and the Hebrews in the mountains? A talking cloud? Sure, and Barney the Dinosaur is real.

Let me be clear, you all deceive yourselves as you wait for natural born liars to confirm what your eyes see. You all need to realize, you are not alone in the universe, no more than you are alone here in the environment of the world you currently inhabit.

I want to be straight with you all, there is a more ominous confirmation of propaganda looming right now. One bigger than religious falsehoods, one bigger than the Jewish intention to resurrect Jesus the Christ in a make believe fairytale that he was brought by an angelic stork to the Dome of the Rock in February, 2011. It is in the fact that the second sun theory is also being promoted by mainstream media. Many people have taken pictures of a second sun over the last 2 years, many have reported what they believe is Nibiru, planet X or what have you. The second sun theory that the star Betelgeuse may explode is a false creative storyline, but…not a false alarm.

The divine angel of light descending to the Dome of the Rock is followed by a story of a baby male left in the Dome of the Rock, which is a prelude to propaganda for the return of Jesus standing atop the New Mount Zion in the New Heaven and Earth. This is a falsehood, yet the attempt for storytelling in the immediate future is not a false alarm.

Pictures and videos of flying machines above Phoenix in 1997 or otherwise in the millions to date may or may not be falsehoods, but they are not a false alarms. These are all very real alarms.

The “second sun by exploding star” propaganda is as unrealistic as astronauts landing on the moon. As if men were sent into a dark expanse where flying meteorites and asteroids could impact them in a second and blow them all up. As if a lander could be built to descend and re-ascend from the base of a moon when today there is no vehicle that can do it here on this planet. When the government or their syndicated media with permission to populate lies admits to a second sun theory, it is vital.

If Betelgeuse exploded, the whole world will see a second sun? C'mon! A second sun caused by an exploding star light years away? The whole area around the moon and the planets in this solar system would also be diminished by the overwhelming light, so why claim an explosion would look like a second sun?

Well, if a UFO is captured by a camera, the government debunks it with swamp gas reflections from Venus and other retarded lies. I will say this much, everyone here will have a drink on New Years Eve in 2012 and wake up with a hangover on January 1st, 2013. I am sorry to say the Mayan Calendar doomsday prediction is as real as Santa Claus. Just another human concept. Even the Gods like Zeus, Apollo or Jehovah are man made human concepts. Ever notice how God is supposed to endorse your actions as righteous while punishing your enemies? The easiest way to deceive a human is to speak to them. Everyone says nice things, and everyone writes nice poems, but deep down in the heart, they are self serving and self concerning hypocrites. Expect no truth from government, media, police, churches or commerce institutions, they are a formation of humans, and humans are arrogant and ignorant by nature.

Congratulations doomsdayers, you desire some phenomenal event to confirm life here is not so boring and there is something more, this time it is for real. Imagine a choir of singers at a church - now imagine billions all at once screaming all at once, "whoooaaaa-aahhhhhh". Still sound exciting?

If just one of you knew what I know, not believe, but what I know, you would be in absolute shock. I have every answer imaginable in the palm of my hands and I have to sit around listening to people who proudly boast opinions without true knowledge, speaking highly because they paid taxes and have a right to opinionize against a government. Listen up! Your governments are as real as your fictional Gods, they are a creation of the human mind and can only exist with the compliance of the masses. And compliance is best achieved through control by intimidation of loss or violence.

Wake up! Smell the airs that surround you. They are dark airs. Is it a coincidence the shadows between trees exist on the ground in daylight? Is it a coincidence the shadows exist on cement between buildings in daylight? Is it a coincidence that even during daylight if you close the drapes, the room gets dark? The air within this world is dark.

You exist in a prison where war and injustice has reigned supreme since the beginning, you are in a dungeon of deceit. The darkness is not from the universe, but the airs within the world. Wake up! You are now existing in a world that is hell, not a place of fire, brimstone and lava, but one of darkness. The airs here, like the soil that creates everything within is dark matter, just like the retina in the eyes of every animated living being within. The retina is as dark as the airs and soils that produced it allowing you to only perceive that which exists within. You are here, inside the world of darkness!

Welcome to the Dungeon of Deceit, the Prison of Sorrow where every man woman and child holds pain and sadness whether they are young or old, rich and poor. Is this your heaven? A place where as you read this, there are men raping little girls in the Middle East, there are children starving to death in Africa, there are people being beaten by police behind cement walls in your city as you read this! You are in hell, wake up or remain here indefinitely. Death is a human concept, there is only division and separation, as you exhale the last breath you also simultaneously inhale the new and you no longer gravitate in body to the soil that created you, but you gravitate above the body to the airs that suspend your spirit.

UFOs are not fictional, they are here! The campaign is Jerusalem is not fictional, nor a false alarm, but an inevitable falsehood of a returning Jesus in the guise of divine animation. The light of the universe that gives you perception for half a rotation of the world is the light from beyond, not within, so what do you really think will happen when the second sun appears and daylight is 24/7? In a home, a blast of sudden light is followed by a power outage of total darkness.

I will give you one hint. The world you inhabit is like a computer, and what happens when the environment of the computer gets overloaded with so many files, so many videos, numerous registries causing viruses? It gets reformatted and a new operating system is loaded and becomes the new environment. The Revelation prophecy of Jesus standing on Mount Zion in New Jerusalem, in the New Heaven and New Earth. The new operating system in a new environment with a transfer of old files is fulfilled.

Your landlords of this world that were once worshipped as Gods in a talking cloud commanding murders know what is about to happen. Do the tenants who walk the surface know? Ever wondered why a few hundred years ago people would see an advanced being ascend without gravity and assume they have wings like a night bat or why thousands of years ago they would see beings ascend and they thought they must have wings of a bird?

Truth is in what you see and what you hear, but the human mind deceives you by conjuring up myth's with the event that suit your own purposes. Remember the Heavens Gate leader? Sure he knew his stuff about Jesus telling people to desire to leave this hell, but in the end he claimed that he was Jesus back as Ti – and that God came back as an expression of Homer Simpson "Doh!". Smarts mixed with stupidity is inherent, just as eternal life of conscious awareness is inherent the milli-second the birth of spirit is fashioned, even before the fashioning of the mind and body from nothing more than an invisible cell began inside the womb of the human mother, inside the womb of this world, inside the womb of the universe. Like the bible, leave it to a human to manipulate murder as a sacrifice and then add an oxymoron that God sent the son to be killed to show love for humanity. A god that sends a son to be killed to express love? Only in the hell of this world can this fairytale be sold, yet it has been successfully sold to billions across the world. And those billions collectively outwish the few and the consciousness of this world that produces your imaginations will fulfill the agenda.

A dream can be a nightmare. What if the human race is born into a world that breeds arrogance, ignorance, hypocrisy and injustice. What if the world the human race perceives as a heaven is really a world of hell in disguise? What if the human race is a manifestation of demons in skin that hides the true image of a demon? What if you lived in a world that jails those who fight for justice on your behalf? What if as you read this there are military men raping a little 8 year old girl and laughing about her screaming and crying? What if these same men and women were killing civilians on other lands or abusing these human beings in barricaded tents? What if you lived in a world that honours the rapists and murderers with medals and the people of the land endorse their actions with support the effort of the troops stickers? What if you lived in a world where the most fortunate and most guilty were targeting the less fortunate and the less guilty? What if the world you inhabit has police beating and pulverizing people at will behind the scenes, and raping women behind cement walls while smiling into cameras exalting themselves as heroes? What if this world had people abusing seniors in senior homes, aids who attack mental patients with needles and mental torture, and social workers who take kids out of homes against their will and the kids were placed into homes and institutions such as churches where they are abused? What if the world had media who was designed by government to manipulate the audience with grand schemes that inflict the nation while honouring the leaders of oppressive indoctrinations? What if every human was capable of lying to one another, their friends and family and their co-workers and neighbours, and groups of liars were to become employed in group departments of government and media, continuing the lies?

What if humans naturally sought to expose lies and immorality of others while suppressing their own? What if humans created online websites that aim to combat censorship all while endorsing their own policies of censorship within under the guise of bans and deletions? What if all humanity is the source of all injustice? Or should we place the blame on birds and giraffes? Is it possible that all humans are self serving beings who attack one another over simple issues? Is this a world where people have a nemesis throughout the day where they need to battle another driver for driving too slow or fast? Is this a world where people can make negative arguments with one another over poor service at a business or argue about a barking dog with a neighbour? Do humans actually have fights with their family and go separate ways or is this all an illusion?

Is there one human who does not favour their own over others, or does not have thoughts of negative actions against another who offends them with their opinion? Is there one human who does not hold onto some form of sorrow about regrets or pains of loss in this world? Is this place just a bad dream or are humans mere demons in hell trying to delude themselves on the fact that money is not the root of all evil, when in fact, humans who create the concepts of money, government, law, religions and wars are the root of all evil? Conspiracies exist in every household between parents and spouses, they exist in every business between co-workers, in every form of government everywhere. If one wants to know the creator or source of a conspiracy, one only needs to look into a mirror.

The root of all evil is not money, nor government, nor weaponry, but the creators and users, it is humans. The demons who walk the surface embracing lies and suppressing truth, the ones who deceive themselves of their true image of mucousy organs, bloody veins and arteries as seen on posters in rooms throughout medical centres and hospitals. Only the pigment of a skin color hides the true design of a human, a being that persists on believing they are angels, when in fact, their actions have spoken louder than their words since the foundation of human history. Humans are demons in an environment of darkness and nothing more, so quit wondering why all this evil occurs here, quit wondering why beings from beyond would prefer to not associate, simply put, if mankind ever did succeed in space travel, which they will not, they would contaminate that environment with wars and destruction as they do here. If only your species of beings knew, you would be in shock!

I assure you now, all of you exist in a phase of human generation where for once humans and animals and fish and birds are not the only one facing death, but the planet as well. It will need to erase the memories on the hard drive and format a new, this is not fiction or fairytale, but in actuality, scheduled.

Sorry if the words come across wrong, truth is a bitter pill, it is a virus that attacks the disease of lies in this world, and the disease is in the very airs you breathe and exhale. If you want to meet an alien, look into a mirror, you dear alien, created this body that is always changing from nothing more than a speck of air. What you see in the mirror is an alien and the spacesuit you wear here is temporary before separating. You will never consciously know death, but separation and division. The magic of the universe unfolds.

By the way, the faithful are in for a shock. Their Jesus who was never really named Jesus two thousand years ago and was hung by the neck, not crucified, was not brought back by a stork a week ago. Their Jesus whom they invited to Jerusalem to learn their doctrine of deceit, whom fought with the establishment and told their churches the Lord they worshipped was the devil in disguise, whom defied their proposal to enter Judea or Rome to unite the ultimate Testament of Power between the Romans and the Israelites of Hebrew lines, that Jesus who was never named Jesus or "the christ" has already been back for a while. To say the least in all fairness, he is quite unhappy with what is being said and done. Plus he does not plan to stay around this world forever, but to return to an environment where war, misery, injustice and death is non-existent. See if you can figure this oneout? The riddle ends here. See if the super sleuths can put all this together.

You just got to love the writing style, there is a reason that I wrote this in a manner that would have English teachers giving me a "D minus" for grading in grammar. The fun of it all.
You sound disturbed to me.

You won't hurt anyone to prove a point, right? Because if you did that you would only be proving that you yourself wears a fake spacesuit covering your true demon self.

Look, we all know this world is hard to live in. It's full of sh**. But what other choice do we have? This life doesn't come with a manual, or I don't see one. I didn't get to choose which country I was born in. I can't change other people. I can't even change myself. This isn't a pretty life. If you want perfection, it'll never happen. There's selfishness, murder, deceit. All true. But there's also generosity, heroism, exploration and joy. Don't focus on just the dark side of humanity. If that's what you do, this life would easily be unbearable. As humans, imperfect and all, we must look on the bright side. We must keep a positive outlook even in the midst of everything that's bad and ugly about ourselves and the world we live in. We have to because there's no other choice except death. We have to assume there's a reason for all this. And most people don't want to die. There must be a reason for that. Ya, it's selfish, but as I said before, the bad traits are not the only traits that humans have.

I'm offering you a branch that has a bud on it. The bud represents the future. The action itself represents mutual respect and a hope for peace. Take it. Don't give up on humanity. It's not all bad.

And don't think for one moment that I am butterflies and rainbows. You don't have to be in a nazi concentration camp to believe in evil, you know. I was a christian for a long time and I truly believed evil was everywhere even inside myself - without ever really seeing it. I've seen enough to know that there's untold misery and injustice all around the world. But I'm not superman and can't clear it away. I know it's there. I wish it weren't. It causes a lot of stress when you focus on all of it. I think that's one reason we have religion - to give ourselves comfort when the pain of this world overwhelms us.

Why do we have emotions to feel this pain? I don't know, but if you're a christian you believe god gave us these emotions for a reason and if you're a non-believer you think nature evolved us to have emotions for a reason. So no matter what you believe, there's some kind of reason for it, right? It hurts like hell to consider death and misery and suffering that exists. I wish I didn't have it. I wish I could switch my emotions off like Data in star trek, but I can't. And you know what? Maybe it's better that I can't. Maybe it's not, but I'm sure there're situations where switching your emotions off would be harmful and stupid. And I'm equally as sure that there're situations where switching off your emotions would have beneficial results. But I'm not god, I'm no genius, I don't feel I have the wisdom or knowledge to switch off my emotions in a responsible manner. Enuff' said.
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