Originally posted by Blue Shift
... the powers of Solomon, which are sorcery and Masonry, since Solomon forced demons to help him set the cornerstones of the Temple.

So it's hard to tell if he's actually for or against the idea of hidden knowledge and power being used for personal gain, or whether he is just angling to control it, himself.

Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing.

Originally posted by AtticusNoble

Originally posted by getreadyalready

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
Who was the “Grand Architect of the Universe" .... At the signing of the Declaration?

There is and has only ever been one GAOTU. Time is irrelavent.

That is the number one key tenet of Freemasonry, "One, ever-living God." Now the name of that God is not important, all religions are accepted.

I would humbly amend your statement with the phrase, "to the fraternity." As in - Now the name of that God is not important to the fraternity. It is, however, of the highest importance to most of our members. If "most" is too much to assume, then "many."

Originally posted by Masonic Light
I would say that if anyone thinks the name of God is not important in Freemasonry, they either have not been exalted to the degree of Royal Arch Mason or received the degree of Perfection in the Ancient and Accepted Rite. Or, if they have, have not paid much attention!

Originally posted by felonius

Originally posted by AtticusNoble

Originally posted by getreadyalready

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
Who was the “Grand Architect of the Universe" .... At the signing of the Declaration?

There is and has only ever been one GAOTU. Time is irrelavent.

That is the number one key tenet of Freemasonry, "One, ever-living God." Now the name of that God is not important, all religions are accepted.

I would humbly amend your statement with the phrase, "to the fraternity." As in - Now the name of that God is not important to the fraternity. It is, however, of the highest importance to most of our members. If "most" is too much to assume, then "many."

MM here also.

I would like to know "why" the "name" of the Maker would be important? To the some, it could be the Shemhemaphorash or Tetragrammaton (72 and 4 letter names of the Maker). To others, it may not have a name at all....the "energy" is the same. We name it in a way that we can conceive in our puny minds.

What matter is HOW you approach it. If you approach with LOVE, with the desire for more WISDOM, and serve with STRENGTH, You are serving the same Master/Mistress.

In the early days of the christian "putsch" (post Jesus) , pagan and christian got on fairly well in many cases IF both were respectable to one another. When "christians" forgot the teachings of Jesus and followed those of Paul instead, it went to hell. Rome was a political issue more than religious.

Personally, I dont think JC woudl recognise the church as it exists (in many cases) today. He would haul most out as money changers and charletans. Some are "old school" are fine though...small ones.

All the Gods are One God, All the Goddess'es are one Goddess, and there is One Initiator.

Was JC an initiated into the ranks of MM's? No. Are we initiated into the same ranks as JC? You betcha, just on a lower arc.

Originally posted by CholmondleyWarner
Freemasons spend most of their time on here arguing that politicians and world leaders are not part of the cult and now seem to be trying to convince us that the worlds most famous individual, Jesus Christ, was one of their brood! next you'll be trying to convince us all that your not all godless heathens! :-)

Originally posted by getreadyalready
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I'd have to disagree. A Master Mason is privileged to all there is to do or know in Freemasonry.

I also contend that the idea that more knowledge exists, or that there is a higher level than "Master Mason" goes against everything we learn in the first 3 degrees.

I also contend that the idea that there are actually "higher-level" Masons would be fuel on the conspiracy fire that there is some elite group of Masons running the show. We constantly battle and debate to kill that conspiracy, but you are lending it some credibility.

Originally posted by coyotepoet
Sorry to hear that brother. Drug laws are so ridiculous. Any body should know that a plant manufactures its own seeds. Based on the tone and tenor of your posts you're a good one and don't deserve what you are currently facing.

Originally posted by dr_strangecraft

Um, John 18:20, at his arraignment before Pontius Pilatus:

Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing.

Originally posted by Masonic Light
Jesus further instructed his disciples to "cast not your pearls before swine".

Originally posted by benedict9
No man can serve two masters.

Deny Freemasonry and it's trappings. It is not of the True Christ path.

IAMIAM, your circumstances served to distance yourself from this Brotherhood of false light. You know this in youir Spirit.You are being divinely guided to where you rightfully belong.It is not within Freemasonry bounds.

Peace and blessings to you Brother and understand I mean no disrespect.