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Originally posted by Arbitrageur
reply to post by -PLB-
You're reinforcing the point I made earlier, which was that the macro world is often intuitive, because we have more experience with it. The quantum world is often not intuitive, because most of us don't have much experience with it. I only took one post-graduate level course in quantum mechanics and I haven't used it much since aside from reading papers like the one I linked you to. It may be a lot more intuitive to Buddhasystem than to me because he works with it frequently, and I don't.
en.wikipedia.org...
.. the subjective nature of intuition limits the objectivity of what to call counterintuitive because what is counter-intuitive for one may be intuitive for another. This might occur in instances where intuition changes with knowledge. For instance, many aspects of quantum mechanics may sound counterintuitive to a layman, while they may be intuitive to a particle physicist.
Buddhasystem, is that true? Does quantum mechanics become more intuitive the more you work with it?
Feynman left me with a different impression:
en.wikiquote.org...
Richard Feynman-
"I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics"
-The Character of Physical Law (1965) Ch. 6; also quoted in The New Quantum Universe (2003) by Tony Hey and Patrick Walters
Cool. When you find yourself possessed of limitless powers to lord over the world, I beseech you use them for good and not evil, to bring happiness and enlightenment to your fellow man, regardless of race, creed or subculture, and to remain humble and true to your values. Which are clearly elevated and pure and noble and learned. With great power comes great responsibility. Go well, my friend, boldly into the future.
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by Bobathon
Not my problem, if you're unable to understand at least one application of teaming the coils with thermoelectric plates. My point is... I'll be able to build most anything to spec soon and report back.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply. When I was little I had a toy gyroscope to play with. But it wasn't until high school when the physics teacher brought a bicycle wheel to class on a short axle that I appreciated how odd the effect was. It's really the same effect with both, but that little toy was so easy to turn that I just didn't appreciate how powerful it could be until I tried to change the direction of the bicycle wheel when it was spinning really fast. Like you said, that didn't seem intuitive at first, like other types of motion, so that's a good example. Here's the demo for anyone who hasn't seen it:
Originally posted by buddhasystem
You see, even some chapters in classical mechanics aren't that intuitive to begin with. Do you remember when you were a kid and looked at a gyroscope? Or a ping pong ball in a stream of air? Then you get used to these common miracles and take them for granted. Then they become second nature.
Actually, the Casimir effect seems more intuitive to me than wave-particle duality. How can it be like that? Oops, just a rhetorical thought, I'm not supposed to say that
Do not keep saying to yourself, if you can possibly avoid it, "But how can it be like that?" because you will get "down the drain," into a blind alley from which nobody has yet escaped. Nobody knows how it can be like that.
-Richard_Feynman: On the apparent absurdities of Quantum behavior, in The Character of Physical Law (1965) Lecture 6 : Probability and Uncertainity — the Quantum Mechanical view of Nature
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Thus, for example, you understand that Feynman's diagram is not a picture of an actual process as it occurs, but rather a representation of an integral, just one of a few, and diagrams help count the terms in series essentially (with all different amplitudes, of course).
Originally posted by Mary Rose
Hence our electrical engineers – almost from the beginning – have thought, designed, built, and deployed only that subset of Maxwellian systems that self-destroy any use of excess energy from the vacuum, hence self-preventing having COP>1.0 and self-powering EM systems taking their excess input energy directly from the active vacuum.
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
. . . most other EEs are probably guilty of what Bearden accuses them of, which is not incorporating vacuum energy into their calculations or designs at all.
Originally posted by Mary Rose
Originally posted by Mary Rose
Hence our electrical engineers – almost from the beginning – have thought, designed, built, and deployed only that subset of Maxwellian systems that self-destroy any use of excess energy from the vacuum, hence self-preventing having COP>1.0 and self-powering EM systems taking their excess input energy directly from the active vacuum.
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
. . . most other EEs are probably guilty of what Bearden accuses them of, which is not incorporating vacuum energy into their calculations or designs at all.
Why is that? Why would EEs not incorporate vacuum energy into their calculations or designs?
You may also wish to check my website, www.cheniere.org, for new papers on other related subjects.
E.g., we give some references and a bit of details on the astounding seizure and hiding by our Department of Energy of a developed process for easily and cheaply making permanent magnets with asymmetric (anisotropic) strength magnetic fields laterally. Given such permanent magnets, just about anyone can easily assemble a self-powering permanent magnet motor or motor-generator, powering a load, in 15 minutes for peanuts. Our own DoE has apparently suppressed this manufacturing process deliberately, while keeping its implications hidden from the President, the Congress, the Scientific Community, and the American Public since at least 2001. The process has a U.S. patent in 1990, completely before DoE involvement and taking over control of the patent.
I said "most other EEs". The distinction made was one of scale. The smaller the scale the engineer is working on, the more they will have to pay attention to quantum effects. The casimir effect we have been discussing may be significant for micromachines as the auhors of the paper I cited stated.
Originally posted by Mary Rose
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
. . . most other EEs are probably guilty of what Bearden accuses them of, which is not incorporating vacuum energy into their calculations or designs at all.
Why is that? Why would EEs not incorporate vacuum energy into their calculations or designs?
An interesting claim. Where's the evidence?
Originally posted by Mary Rose
Here is a short excerpt:
The process has a U.S. patent in 1990, completely before DoE involvement and taking over control of the patent.
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
An interesting claim. Where's the evidence?
Originally posted by Mary Rose
Here is a short excerpt:
The process has a U.S. patent in 1990, completely before DoE involvement and taking over control of the patent.
My first question is, what's the patent number?
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
My first question is, what's the patent number?
Precisely precisely precisely. We can – and do – ask the same question of all of those we call fake or fraud or charlatan. Where are the answers?
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Bearden claims there are things the engineers could do, but I couldn't help but notice that he's selling DVDs, not improved machines or generators. He's claiming he has a machine with 100, or alternately, a million, times more output than input, why isn't he selling that instead of DVDs?
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
An interesting claim. Where's the evidence?
Originally posted by Mary Rose
Here is a short excerpt:
The process has a U.S. patent in 1990, completely before DoE involvement and taking over control of the patent.
My first question is, what's the patent number?
Originally posted by MIDNIGHTSUN
Arbitrageur thinks he knows everything Mary doesn't know, that is why he tries to prove Mary wrong all the time.
Maybe Marry has a better intuition on Judging other people for telling the truth far better than Arbitrageur although she is not as knowledge in science as them. I don't think all the those Electromagnetic free energy device people are crazy. Some of them are even scientist themselves. What is wrong with the idea of a electromagnetic device providing free energy.
Originally posted by Mary Rose
The patent for the MEG is US 6,362,718 B1 dated March 26, 2002. The link is on his website.
No he doesn't. Try to notice when you're just making something up or believing something with no reason at all. It's important.
Originally posted by MIDNIGHTSUN
Arbitrageur thinks he knows everything Mary doesn't know
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by MIDNIGHTSUN
We are not in a psychology class or in a psychic reading session. The criterion of truth is experiment. Science is not a religion where one needs to blindly believe a perceived "prophet", as Mary does. There is no working prototype of any of these cr@p science machines that would do whatever the charlatans claimed that they do. Period. A few of these claims seem quite simple to verify. You are welcome to build a Rodin coil and prove him right by simply measuring the resistance of the wire _before_ and _after_ it's wound on the torus. Rodin said that the pattern suggested by him leads to reduced resistance. You want to try that?
I know Rodin is a fraud. He isn't the point. The point is the device that uses magnets to generate a spin all on its own to create free energy is real to me.
Originally posted by MIDNIGHTSUN
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by MIDNIGHTSUN
We are not in a psychology class or in a psychic reading session. The criterion of truth is experiment. Science is not a religion where one needs to blindly believe a perceived "prophet", as Mary does. There is no working prototype of any of these cr@p science machines that would do whatever the charlatans claimed that they do. Period. A few of these claims seem quite simple to verify. You are welcome to build a Rodin coil and prove him right by simply measuring the resistance of the wire _before_ and _after_ it's wound on the torus. Rodin said that the pattern suggested by him leads to reduced resistance. You want to try that?
I know Rodin is a fraud. He isn't the point. The point is the device that uses magnets to generate a spin all on its own to create free energy is real to me.
How can it be real to you but not real to everybody else? Do you hold that reality is subjective or that the perception of reality is subjective? Do you think all truth is relative, or that the perception of truth is relative? I disagree with such postmodern notions.
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
My second question is, where's the evidence the DOE took control over the patent, as Bearden claims?
I think you are absolutely right. Everything happening seems to fit the scenario of deliberately flushing the U.S. right down the toilet—and it seems to fit if for many decades, at least since the late 1920s.
The reason for wishing the U.S. destroyed is that the Control Groups are in fact derivative of the old Dark Ages. They regard humanity exactly that way: the “elite” or “royalty” at the top, who are the only real “humans” and are automatically the owners of the money, the “castles”, the land, etc., and then the serfs who are subhuman and more like ignorant slaves. Unfortunately much of the “environmental” community is secretly desirous of killing off about 90% of the humans on earth, and the destruction of the U.S. etc. is a part of that plan (in my opinion).
The easiest way to frustrate those plans—or to have a good chance to frustrate them—is to get the "special folks" to forcibly tear back out of U.S. Department of Energy hands the 1990 patented process for easily making permanent magnets (PMs) with anisotropic (asymmetric) field strengths laterally (left and right) to the line between N and S poles. In short, the PM can be made with a stronger field on its left than on its right; flipping it on the other side will reverse which side is the stronger magnetic field. Two inventors originally obtained a U.S. patent on the process in 1990. DoE, finding out about it, took the lead inventor and gave him a U.S. government grant. Then they had him refile the same process for an international patent obtained in 2001. In that patent, the DoE stated what apparently is a blatant lie, stating that all the work had been done under that U.S. Government grant, and thus the U.S. government has certain rights to this invention. In other words, the U.S. government (DoE) took over the complete control of it.
Then they had the key inventor obtain yet another U.S. patent in 2004, again essentially on the same process with a “good energy product” (strong effect).