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Originally posted by metalshredmetal
i.e. "cats have 9 lives", "you're dressed to the nines", "floating on cloud 9", "love potion number 9", etc.
Except that binary 1001 is the only number in that range which has mirror-like symmertry AND also bears a resemblance to finger glasses, the religious significance of which is demonstrated in this photo:
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Number 9 just doesn't look special against this background.
Actually I'd say it's somewhat "mainstream" given this statistic:
What is this telling us? One word: superstition. And apparently, superstition lives on.
At least we've made enough progress that we're not sacrificing virgins to make it rain anymore; but sometimes, I wonder how much progress we've really made in this area?
Based on an internal review of records, Dilip Rangnekar of Otis Elevators estimates that 85% of the buildings with elevators did not have a floor named the 13th floor. Future building designers, fearing a fire on the 13th floor, or fearing tenants' superstitions about the rumor, decided to omit having a 13th floor listed on their elevator numbering.
Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by Arbitrageur
and adventure into the statistically and rationally improbable.
just goes to show what depths this thread has gone
there are many cultures where cats have 7 lives, such as Hungarian.
I've always liked counting on my fingers, and I only have 8 fingers that have three phalanges that I consider real bonifide fingers. Some people use their thumbs for counting but when you hear expressions like "all thumbs" referring to awkwardness, that may relate to their limitations due to having only two phalanges etc. So based on this, I can see some real advantages to NOT using the thumbs for counting and just using the bonafide fingers of which there are 8, so I like this! The Yuki actually had a slightly different reason for base 8, but they also didn't use the thumb to count...they counted the "valleys" between the digits.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Let's look at octal (base-8) system. After all, it was used by the ancient Yuki people and ancient wisdom is all but forgotten these days -- right, Mary?
Why is it when Rodin says it, it's inspirational genius, but when you say it, it will be called ridicule? Frankly I see no difference.
And so I proclaim that 7 is the missing particle, it's dark matter and the signature of God!
Seven
The number 7 (七, Pinyin: qī) symbolizes "togetherness". It is a lucky number for relationships. It is also recognized as the luckiest number in the West, and is one of the rare numbers that is great in both Chinese and many Western cultures. It is a lucky number in Chinese culture, because it sounds alike to the Chinese character 起 (Pinyin: qǐ) meaning arise
In traditional Chinese culture, qì (also chi or ch'i) is an active principle forming part of any living thing.[1][2][3] Qi is frequently translated as life energy, lifeforce, or energy flow. Qi is the central underlying principle in traditional Chinese medicine and martial arts. The literal translation of "qi" is breath, air, or gas.
Actually one of the most glaring problems with Rodin's theory is that he's really force fitting the threes into his DNA claim about a third invisible helix such that he says DNA has a triple helix instead of what observations show... a double helix.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
You see, base 8 naturally fits into music theory, because it corresponds to 2*2*2,
A fundamental principle of the Bahá'í Faith is the harmony of religion and science. Bahá'í scripture asserts that true science and true religion can never be in conflict.
"If religion were contrary to logical reason then it would cease to be a religion and be merely a tradition.
Religion and science are the two wings upon which man's intelligence can soar into the heights, with which the human soul can progress.
It is not possible to fly with one wing alone!
Should a man try to fly with the wing of religion alone he would quickly fall into the quagmire of superstition, whilst on the other hand, with the wing of science alone he would also make no progress, but fall into the despairing slough of materialism.
All religions of the present day have fallen into superstitious practices, out of harmony alike with the true principles of the teaching they represent and with the scientific discoveries of the time."
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Actually one of the most glaring problems with Rodin's theory is that he's really force fitting the threes into his DNA claim about a third invisible helix such that he says DNA has a triple helix instead of what observations show... a double helix.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
You see, base 8 naturally fits into music theory, because it corresponds to 2*2*2,
The fact that base 8 is the first cube of any number above 1 not only gives it the beauty of cubic geometry, but the number 2 actually matches observations of the DNA double helix.
So I take back what I said earlier about not seeing much difference between the base 10 claims and the base 8 claims. The fact that the base 8 claims include 2 cubed is more consistent with observation of DNA, which has a double helix, and NOT a triple helix, as Rodin claims. To my knowledge nobody has ever seen a DNA triple helix, so I think it's pretty clear Rodin just made that up to fit his false theory.
Your link doesn't work, and if I go to the wikipedia home page I don't see the material you quoted.
Originally posted by 23432
with the wing of science alone he would also make no progress
"Arts, crafts and sciences uplift the world of being, and are conducive to its exaltation."17 But "in all things," is His advice, humanity must "seek" the "Middle Way" for "whatsoever passeth beyond the limits of moderation will cease to exert a beneficial influence."18
The resources of both science and faith must be tapped if the capacities of the world's peoples are to reach the levels needed to address the problems of the present hour. Reliance on consultative decision-making "bestoweth greater awareness and transmuteth conjecture into certitude"--thereby providing the means for effecting meaningful change where social progress has been inhibited.31
Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by 23432
Ohh, why not ask me?
I can debunk him from a religious or bahai viewpoint.
That is my speciality.
Although what you quoted as harmony of science and religion, is already a debunking from faith perspective of Rodin, as he goes 18o degrees against accepted science.
First tenement of bahai faith:
the abandonment of all forms of prejudice
I would argue Rodin has gone against this, when prejudicing for pseudoscience, against science and not providing evidence.
There you go, Rodin debunked from a religious view.
Need any more?edit on 7-2-2012 by BBalazs because: (no reason given)
"Mathematicians, astronomers, chemical scientists continually disprove and reject the conclusions of the ancients; nothing is fixed, nothing final; everything is continually changing because human reason is progressing along new roads of investigation and arriving at new conclusions every day. In the future much that is announced and accepted as true now will be rejected and disproved. And so it will continue ad infinitum."