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"Vortex Based Mathematics by Marko Rodin"

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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 02:24 PM
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I don't know what your quote is from, but such is the nature of life and the universe..
So what, who does it relate?




posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 02:29 PM
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final, and deadly blow to rodin:
bahai faith promotes a RATIONAL APPROACH TO SCIENCE.
Rodin: Busted, Dusted and Debunked from this perspective also.
Guide to Bahai Faith

He is NOW nobodies CHILD.
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Also in link: Abdul Bahai EXTREMLEY DISMISSIVE OF ESOTERIC APPROACHES TO SCIENCE.
Rodin EAT YOUR HEART OUT.
Is that Rodins inner child on buddhasystems logo?
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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by 23432
 


I don't know what your quote is from, but such is the nature of life and the universe..
So what, who does it relate?


That is Abdul Baha :


`Abdu'l-Bahá explains that science is a progressive field which will continually progress in further and further ways.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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So what? I happen to agree with that quote. It has no bearing on this subject.
See my above link for DEATH BLOW to Rodin.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by 23432
 


So what? I happen to agree with that quote. It has no bearing on this subject.
See my above link for DEATH BLOW to Rodin.




Imho , Rodin is attempting to describe how energy gains mass .
Invoking the name of God is a central tenet of his claim .



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 03:00 PM
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final, and deadly blow to rodin:
bahai faith promotes a RATIONAL APPROACH TO SCIENCE.
Rodin: Busted, Dusted and Debunked from this perspective also.
Guide to Bahai Faith

He is NOW nobodies CHILD.
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Also in link: Abdul Bahai EXTREMLEY DISMISSIVE OF ESOTERIC APPROACHES TO SCIENCE.
Rodin EAT YOUR HEART OUT.
Is that Rodins inner child on buddhasystems logo?
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Let me repeat for you, he may be describing his GOD, but is has no scientific value. If he claims science, he is against bahai faith as no rational framework is provided, it is not science. If he claims so, he is against bahai faith. If he claims pseudoscience, he is against bahai faith. so in the end this is rodins ode to god.
well fine.
just fine.
pretty amateurish ode to god, but hey.
Now on the other hand this is a truly magnificent ode to god (pan in this case):



Hymn to Pan


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Thrill with lissome lust of the light,
O man ! My man !
Come careering out of the night
Of Pan ! Io Pan .
Io Pan ! Io Pan ! Come over the sea
From Sicily and from Arcady !
Roaming as Bacchus, with fauns and pards
And nymphs and styrs for thy guards,
On a milk-white ass, come over the sea
To me, to me,
Coem with Apollo in bridal dress
(Spheperdess and pythoness)
Come with Artemis, silken shod,
And wash thy white thigh, beautiful God,
In the moon, of the woods, on the marble mount,
The dimpled dawn of of the amber fount !
Dip the purple of passionate prayer
In the crimson shrine, the scarlet snare,
The soul that startles in eyes of blue
To watch thy wantoness weeping through
The tangled grove, the gnarled bole
Of the living tree that is spirit and soul
And body and brain -come over the sea,
(Io Pan ! Io Pan !)
Devil or god, to me, to me,
My man ! my man !
Come with trumpets sounding shrill
Over the hill !
Come with drums low muttering
From the spring !
Come with flute and come with pipe !
Am I not ripe ?
I, who wait and writhe and wrestle
With air that hath no boughs to nestle
My body, weary of empty clasp,
Strong as a lion, and sharp as an asp-
Come, O come !
I am numb
With the lonely lust of devildom.
Thrust the sword through the galling fetter,
All devourer, all begetter;
Give me the sign of the Open Eye
And the token erect of thorny thigh
And the word of madness and mystery,
O pan ! Io Pan !
Io Pan ! Io Pan ! Pan Pan ! Pan,
I am a man:
Do as thou wilt, as a great god can,
O Pan ! Io Pan !
Io pan ! Io Pan Pan ! Iam awake
In the grip of the snake.
The eagle slashes with beak and claw;
The gods withdraw:
The great beasts come, Io Pan ! I am borne
To death on the horn
Of the Unicorn.
I am Pan ! Io Pan ! Io Pan Pan ! Pan !
I am thy mate, I am thy man,
Goat of thy flock, I am gold , I am god,
Flesh to thy bone, flower to thy rod.
With hoofs of steel I race on the rocks
Through solstice stubborn to equinox.
And I rave; and I rape and I rip and I rend
Everlasting, world without end.
Mannikin, maiden, maenad, man,
In the might of Pan.
Io Pan ! Io Pan Pan ! Pan ! Io Pan !


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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by 23432
Imho , Rodin is attempting to describe how energy gains mass .


If that's the case, he's doing a p!ss poor job of that. There is no mention of mass or energy in his sudoku, and what's more, there is no mathematical construct that predicts and/or describes the vertex or vortex in the center of the donut and its parameters. I can equally easy construct a "magic triangle" (look it up on the web, there is some interesting arithmetic going on), poke my finger right in the middle and say, "here, I just created a black hole". In no way, shape or form this would be different from what Rodin is saying, and just as pathetic.


Invoking the name of God is a central tenet of his claim .


Invoking the name of God can be a powerful thing, but in this case it doesn't do jack. If you have a proof to the opposite effect, please share.

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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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THis is also a beautiful ode to nature god.
One of my favorites:



William Blake. 1757–1827

489. The Tiger

TIGER, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?

In what distant deeps or skies 5
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand dare seize the fire?

And what shoulder and what art
Could twist the sinews of thy heart? 10
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand and what dread feet?

What the hammer? what the chain?
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? What dread grasp 15
Dare its deadly terrors clasp?

When the stars threw down their spears,
And water'd heaven with their tears,
Did He smile His work to see?
Did He who made the lamb make thee? 20

Tiger, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?




posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by 23432

Originally posted by BBalazs
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So what? I happen to agree with that quote. It has no bearing on this subject.
See my above link for DEATH BLOW to Rodin.




Imho , Rodin is attempting to describe how energy gains mass .
Invoking the name of God is a central tenet of his claim .

One more thing:
SCIENCE is about understanding your surroundings by measurement and observations.
IT is NOT about God.
There you go.
In your own words.
SCIENCE IS NOT THE STUDY OF GOD.
THat is called THEOLOGY.

This is what science is:
Science (from Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.
Now where are rosins testable explanations and predictions?

This is theology:
Theology is the systematic and rational study of religion and its influences and of the nature of religious truths, or the learned profession acquired by completing specialized training in religious studies, usually at a university or school of divinity or seminary

Rodin: Dusted, Busted and Done. On all fronts.
Rodin MAY BE a 2nd RATE theologian. I will give you that.I am a little better theologian then him, so I would not trust him with dogma, I could build better and more fool proof dogma myself in a matter of hours. But thumps up for his enthusiasm.
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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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If anyone have an alternative theory which attempts to explain how energy gains mass via circular repetition , I am listening .



You can use any number system you like .



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 03:42 PM
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You mean alternative theological theory?
I have a number.
1.God did it.
2. Gods sidekick, angel, prophet did it.
3. An accident between the God Masseus (Mass), Circulus (circle), and Energikus (energy) did it.
4. Its flow from an alternate universe.
5. ITs gods will
6. Its energy fluctuation following the higher prime number fibonacci pattern frequency of the space time continuum warp.

I go with number 6.

Oh, I more: Aliens did it.
8. THe Governemt did it!


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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by 23432
 

You mean alternative theological theory?
I have a number.
1.God did it.
2. Gods sidekick, angel, prophet did it.
3. An accident between the God Masseus (Mass), Circulus (circle), and Energikus (energy) did it.
4. Its flow from an alternate universe.
5. ITs gods will
6. Its energy fluctuation following the higher prime number fibonacci pattern frequency of the space time continuum warp.

I go with number 6.




This is even more inadequate then Rodin's theory but thank you anyhow .



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by 23432


If anyone have an alternative theory which attempts to explain how energy gains mass via circular repetition , I am listening .



You can use any number system you like .


circular repetition? what repetition? aren't all things in motion?

I had this convo with someone recently who thought that all the planets orbited in "circles". they are not closed circuit type orbits like school teaches us...

the sun is moving, duh...the planets orbit in spirals because their object of orbit (the sun) is also moving. seen this way, the planets don't ever enter the same space as they have previously.

...but this doesn't really have any relevance to this thread. oh well.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 03:47 PM
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All the theory about black holes must be considered with the utmost care, by keeping in mind the fact that it's only a mathematical theory, at the moment, but whose physical reality is becoming more and more obvious.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 03:48 PM
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Repetition is a Motion .



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by 23432
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All the theory about black holes must be considered with the utmost care, by keeping in mind the fact that it's only a mathematical theory, at the moment, but whose physical reality is becoming more and more obvious.



Well Rodin is quite upfront about it -- he's certain that he's created a black hole, in fact a few of them. Does it make sense to you?



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 04:09 PM
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NO it doesn't make much of a sense to me either but I am not willing to dismiss his theories as easy as some people do.

In fact you can say that I am positively entertaining his theories and you & others are positively not entertaining his theories .

This is not a scientific theory by any means but just because it doesn't fit in with current scientific methodolgy , it doesn't make it totally worthless by any means .



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by 23432
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NO it doesn't make much of a sense to me either but I am not willing to dismiss his theories as easy as some people do.


Just to be clear, you are not dismissing what is proven false by observation?


This is not a scientific theory by any means but just because it doesn't fit in with current scientific methodolgy , it doesn't make it totally worthless by any means .


So what does it make it worthwhile? As I have written today, I can come up with a number 7 arithmetic trick and proclaim that this is the key to the Universe. How would you be able to tell that I'm wrong and Rodin's right, or vice versa?



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by 23432
Don't you think you ought to attempt to debunk Rodin via religion AND science ?

Wouldn't that be a more appropriate method ?
I've done both but you either haven't been paying attention or you just don't get it.

Remember this?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

That debunks all the other religions, because it's the one true religion, and if you don't believe me, just look at it, it says so right there! What more documentation could you ask for? It even debunks the gospel of the flying spaghetti monster, which I was starting to like.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 09:23 PM
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Yes, I guess the point is that certain kinds of critical thinking are absolutely necessary even in dealing with religion in a constructive manner (of course certain parts of critical thinking will always need to be put on hold when taking any religion seriously). Otherwise, there is just no way to tell whether the napkin religion is one true religion, as opposed to say scientology, and vice versa.

Speaking of which, Baha'i seems to be a fine religion as they come. It's a shame that Rodin is acting in ways detrimental to its prestige and standing, by being a fool of the first order and dragging Baha'i into his stupid antics in the process. He doesn't have humility. Instead, he goes "I found the fingerprint of God", of all things. That's not a small accomplishment, is it? Jesus and Mohammed have nothing on Rodin. Wow. If course, having an autographed card from God himself is trivial for a person who can create black holes out of his own fart, day in, day out.



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