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Originally posted by Sinnthia
Originally posted by Annee
(2) any reasonable restriction pertaining to the time, place, or manner of displaying the flag of the United States necessary to protect a substantial interest of the condominium association, cooperative association, or residential real estate management association.
Just because apparently someone is having a hard time seeing this part. Maybe it is understanding this part but lets toss a little benefit of the doubt out there. I hate to watch someone drown like this (again )
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
What part of this law do you not comprehend?
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ``Freedom to Display the American Flag Act of 2005''.
SEC. 2. DEFINITIONS.
For purposes of this Act--
(1) the term ``flag of the United States'' has the meaning given the term ``flag, standard, colors, or ensign'' under section 3 of title 4, United States Code;
(2) the terms ``condominium association'' and ``cooperative association'' have the meanings given such terms under section 604 of Public Law 96399 (15 U.S.C. 3603);
(3) the term ``residential real estate management association'' has the meaning given such term under section 528 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (26 U.S.C. 528); and
(4) the term ``member''--
(A) as used with respect to a condominium association, means an owner of a condominium unit (as defined under section 604 of Public Law 96399 (15 U.S.C. 3603)) within such association;
(B) as used with respect to a cooperative association, means a cooperative unit owner (as defined under section 604 of Public Law 96399 (15 U.S.C. 3603)) within such association; and
(C) as used with respect to a residential real estate management association, means an owner of a residential property within a subdivision, development, or similar area subject to any policy or restriction adopted by such association.
SEC. 3. RIGHT TO DISPLAY THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES.
A condominium association, cooperative association, or residential real estate management association may not adopt or enforce any policy, or enter into any agreement, that would restrict or prevent a member of the association from displaying the flag of the United States on residential property within the association with respect to which such member has a separate ownership interest or a right to exclusive possession or use.
SEC. 4. LIMITATIONS. H. R. 42--2
Nothing in this Act shall be considered to permit any display or use that is inconsistent with--
(1) any provision of chapter 1 of title 4, United States Code, or any rule or custom pertaining to the proper display or use of the flag of the United States (as established pursuant to such chapter or any otherwise applicable provision of law);
or (2) any reasonable restriction pertaining to the time, place, or manner of displaying the flag of the United States necessary to protect a substantial interest of the condominium association, cooperative association, or residential real estate management association.
Originally posted by Annee
YEP - - this is from the Flag Act he keeps referring to. Its right there in black and white.
There are several other cases like this through out the US - - and as far as I can tell - - in those cases as well - - the HOA is protected by the Flag Act Limitations.
Originally posted by Sinnthia
Originally posted by Annee
YEP - - this is from the Flag Act he keeps referring to. Its right there in black and white.
There are several other cases like this through out the US - - and as far as I can tell - - in those cases as well - - the HOA is protected by the Flag Act Limitations.
Personally, I would think the part that specifically explains that listed under something called "limitations" makes it kind of obvious that that exact stipulation is given as a limitation. I dunno, maybe I am crazy.
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by Dilligaf28
How so?, the posters on here don't seem to want to acknowledge logic. Much less common sense. For someone to actually believe that a HOA bylaw supersedes signed and passed piece of congressional legislation is completely absurd!
Originally posted by Annee
OK - I get to use laughing emoticons now
Ya Think?
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by Dilligaf28
The flag act, is you actually google it, will in fact reference you to the US code. My argument still stands that they are in indirect correlation with each other.
Originally posted by lee anoma
As a good neighbor I'd reduce the pole.
It really isn't a big deal.
I guess the homeowners association will be a bit more discerning next time.
I'm just waiting for a Conservative politician to take up his cause to ensure reelection.
It's going to happen.
- Lee
Originally posted by duality90
I know. When you think about it, a 20ft flagpole in your neighborhood is probably quite a garish sight...
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by captaintyinknots
Just had to laugh.....catching...my breathe....
Fact? oh goodness~
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by Annee
I believe reading comprehension isn't your strongest suit? I did not make the comment :
WIth regard to your comments I will let your own avatar pic reply for me... "BULL"
that was posted by : marinesniper0351
You comments just made you look like a fool. Trying to blame someone for someone else's comments? Care to acknowledge that your were wrong? A yes or no will suffice!
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
In the first pages of this thread I did happily address the issues. But when someone makes an ignorant comment, and wrongly make accusations, I'm gonna call them on it. We are suppose to deny ignorance aren't we? And that comment was ignorant. Not to mention, the facts were right in front of the young ladies face.
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by Sinnthia
Facts are facts indeed, but reviewing this threads many pages, I have come to the conclusion that everyone's interpretation of " facts " are debatable ate best. Some believe that the law supersedes bylaws, some vice versa. The only way to have conclusive evidence which is the most " superior ", would be if this goes to court. At which time a judge would rule of the legality or lack there of.
Originally posted by Whereweheaded
reply to post by Sinnthia
To ensure that the right of an individual to display the flag of the United States on residential property not be abridged.
What part of this law do you not comprehend?
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by sbctinfantry
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
I am not a fan of homeowners associations, but he chose to live in one, and therefore to follow the rules of it.
Some rights are granted by god, not homeowner's assosciations. So sayeth our founders.
States rights my friend. If the state agrees that HOA's are okay, the fed cant do anything about it. There is no constitutional guideline against it.
Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
reply to post by Dilligaf28
Fine, then how do the supersede Constitutionally guaranteed rights then? The Constitution is still the supreme law of the land, no matter how much you liberals hate and deride it.