Millions of Americans Are Heading to Foodbanks for the First Time in Their Lives

America is going down because the elite have directly targeted the death of the middle class. They have already succeeded in destroying the auto industry and IT industry middle class jobs and millions of others through the off shoring of American jobs.

Now the last bastion of middle class jobs, the public employees of state and federal workers, are being crushed by a sinister alliance of Conservative lunatic barbarians like Christ Christie, the governor of NJ and Corey Booker, the despised mayor of Newark NJ, and surreptitiously they are helped by the "progressive" traitor Barack Obama.

Neo Liberalism of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama meets the pernicious conservativism that wants to destroy the FDR safety net for Americans and privatize everything and obliterate that FDR safety net.

The bogus nonsense about budgets they are using to scare the American people into ruining every vestige of the middle working class structure that made America the greatest country in the world until the beginning of the attack on the middle class began in the administration of Ronald Reagan and the beginning of the conservative Republican degeneration into the most foulest fascist party in American history who make no bones that they are ONLY interested in helping rich elite institutions and people.

WAKE UP BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!

Times are tough for everyone right now. I just sent an email to our schools super this morning to see if something could be aranged. It makes sense to me to help take care of your own city. So I asked to see if we could have a city wide event where everyone could donate what they dont need anymore; food, clothes, etc. and open the high schools up and let everyone in the city who needs to, come in and get what they need out of the donations. Figured it would be a good time to set up tables showing people how and where to donate from then on and how people could go about getting the help they needed. We dont need the government to solve our problems, we need to find a way to come together and help each other. We'll see if I get a responce.

reply to post by illuminnaughty

Finding a new plan is the big question. What do we replace it with?

There is nothing wrong with the US Constitution. The problem is the Banksters used the Supreme Court to get around it. See FDR's court-packing scheme and FDR, my exploited father-in-law by Col. Curtis Dall

As far as what can be done to correct the mess?

Mises had a very simple solution. Of course the bankers in the guise of Keynesian economists will tell you it will not work. That is it will not allow them to loot your wealth by increasing fiat currency.

The Return to Sound Money

The first step must be a radical and unconditional abandonment of any further inflation.

The total amount of dollar bills, whatever their name or legal characteristic may be, must not be increased by further issuance. No bank must be permitted to expand the total amount of its deposits subject to check or the balance of such deposits of any individual customer, be he a private citizen or the U.S. Treasury, otherwise than by receiving cash deposits in legal-tender banknotes from the public or by receiving a check payable by another domestic bank subject to the same limitations.

This means a rigid 100 percent reserve for all future deposits; that is, all deposits not already in existence on the first day of the reform (p. 448).

In Human Action, Mises said that the government's task is to enforce contracts. Among these contracts are contracts for redeeming money-certificates for money metals on demand. He defined a money-certificate a receipt for a money metal that has 100% of the promised metal in reserve.

He said that banks should not be favored by the government. They should not be allowed the right to break contracts, which is what a refusal to redeem money-certificates on demand is.

"What is needed to prevent any further credit expansion is to place the banking business under the general rules of commercial and civil laws compelling every individual to fulfill all obligations in full compliance with the terms of the contract"

In fact, the attempt by modern governments to regulate in any way an international gold standard is always a political ruse to undermine its anti-inflationary bias. "The international gold standard works without any action on the part of governments. It is effective real cooperation of all members of the world-embracing market community. . . . What governments call international monetary cooperation is concerted action for the sake of credit expansion"

"Now, the gold standard is not a game, but a social institution. Its working does not depend on the preparedness of any people to observe arbitrary rules. It is controlled by the operation of inexorable economic law" (p. 462).

Mises on Money: www.lewrockwell.com...

Simple isn't it. DO NOT ALLOW THE BANKERS TO CONTINUE TO BREAK THE LAW!

But the recession is over!

reply to post by inforeal

...the world until the beginning of the attack on the middle class began in the administration of Ronald Reagan....

First I hate all politicians because they are ALL responsible for this mess with the exception of a few like Congressman McFadden who was shot at twice and finally poisoned by the bankers.

If you want to point fingers then point them at Woodrow Wilson. He said this but signed into law the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, the coward.

A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men ... [W]e have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world—no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.
The New Freedom: A Call For the Emancipation of the Generous Energies of a People, chapter 9 (New York and Garden City: Doubleday, Page & Company, 1913)

Or point fingers at Franklin D. Roosevelt who stole gold from American citizens so the bankers could ship it overseas to the Bank of England controlled by the Rothschilds. This prompted On May 23, 1933, Congressman, Louis T. McFadden to bring formal charges against the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Bank system, The Controller of the Currency and the Secretary of United States Treasury for numerous criminal acts, including but not limited to, CONSPIRACY, FRAUD, UNLAWFUL CONVERSION, AND TREASON...

Both of these guys were DEMOCRATS so take off the blinders and quit supporting the banker controlled puppets, democrat or republican. Oh and please learn a bit of history too.

Yeah I heard on the radio the other day a story about this. In no way am I trying to "diss people" who go to food banks. There were times that were rough for me and I condsidered doing this also. However a big part of the middle class issue I believe is the way people are brainwashed into how they are grocery shopping and how they cook/eat. My husband and I can keep our food costs down to $40 US a month for the both of us (3 meals a day) but he is from Asia and he knows how to shop and cook good. We eat mostly rice and pastas veggies , eggs. and hardly any dairy .Not too much meat, if any, only on special occassion. A lot of seafood( I know that can get expensive we eat that because it is healthy) We dont buy those juices (very expensive and too much sugar) we drink mostly water. As far as the cooking we dont eat slabs of beef or poultry ...if we have this it is shredded and used in rice or some other dish so it goes a lot further than eating a slab of beef at one sitting hehehe. So if we do buy chicken or beef we keep it in the freezer and it lasts a long time..we only use a little at a time. We try to eat vegetarian a few times a week. Most co workers I talk to spend almost $300 a week on food for a family of 4 but when I aske them what they buy it seems they buy processed foodsmostly in boxes//junk food and expensive juices the ones that are like 3.00 or almost 4 .00 a bottle and foods that are instant or already cut up (ie buying chicken breasts instead of buying a whole chickeN) . I also think people waste a lot of food also. I do agree it is hard and food is expensive but you can do it on a budget if you change your shopping and cooking habits.

reply to post by 19872012

But the recession is over!

Your RIGHT!

We are now headed into a full blown Depression that will make the 1930's look like a cakewalk.

It is a way for non profit organizations to make a profit while showing that they are helping the communities. They are heavily protected by the same bureaucracy which they recieve grants and loans through. All the while keeping the information private from the general public.

It is also another way of creating a socialistic division between the needy and the people able to afford such basics as household goods and clothing, often receiving so much food from their communities they actually send the over flow to other countries on a regular basis rather than to the people of their own communities who could use more than what the pantry allows per person or family.

It is setting a preexistence of locations for the time when food banks will be the only way to receive commodities and food for your family. As dependence upon policies and regulation for food and other goods increase with the rapid rise in population, this is a clear design to place into the psyche of every American citizen the familiarity of designated and controlled areas for picking up your necessities.

This is where the micro chip will come into play, each person in the future will have to become chipped in order to receive any food or medicine as well as basic household goods. Only the global elite will be able to avoid this line up and rationing.

TPTB would rather have each citizen registered and given a ration or portion of the stockpile, rather than take the chance of hording and or independence.

People will soon discover that the portions and amounts given will not be enough to survive, but to slowly starve to death which has been a very popular and effective way to kill large populations of people throughout history.

Never in my adult life have I ever lived off of anything near twenty grand a year. There were four of us, then three of us. The most I ever earned was thousands less per year. Anyway, if someone is making twice that, over forty grand, they do not need food assistance!! That is some insane credit card debt or mismanagement of money going on if you need a food bank on that much money. I cannot fathom!

Originally posted by againuntodust
The article states this, immediately before the portion you quoted:

So far, for 2010 FBSJ has witnessed a 10% increase in their client base of approximately 100,000 people. Here's the surprise: a large portion of the people needing food assistance today are working, and especially among FBSJ's new clients, many are earning incomes nearly twice the poverty line of $22,055 per year for a family of four (up to 185% of poverty).

I have a feeling if these people weren't buying booze, cigarettes and drugs that they wouldn't need food assistance. But I am just drawing from personal experience - what I've seen through my life on who uses and abuses these programs.

And not to be harsh, I know 22,000 for a family of four is hard, but it is definitely do-able - even without government help. Been there. Done that.

edit on 2-1-2011 by againuntodust because: (no reason given)

if you live in an apartment building what do you do then. most homes in the suburbs, the backyard is so small that you'll be lucky to grow enough vegetables for a day let alone a winter.

if the government has failed you this bad, then its time to rely on yourselves. avoid paying as much taxes as possible. shop in the grey market. if you're going to grow something, grow something that is profitable.

the government doesn't put food on your table, you do. as a matter of fact the government takes food away from your table and your family and gives it to someone else. mainly themselves and their friends.

reply to post by againuntodust
Unfortunately you are incorrect ( my opinion) about the available susidized housing situation, Even in my medium sized midwest town there arent enough sec.8 houses available the waiting list is currently two years long as of Friday the 31st.
R.

reply to post by brill

Interestingly, the food stamp numbers dont reflect the lines of people at our local churches and soup kitchens. Those numbers dont get reported, and often dont even get counted unless its to plan for the next meal.

For the first time since the depression, there are three soup kitchens in operation in my small town of 12,000. My husband and I both work full time jobs, and there are nights that I really consider the option of going to the church for supper. We dont have credit cards, and we dont own an expensive house( our payment is lower than mosts rent) and we dont purchase frivolous items or drive expensive cars. But we do have to travel 50 miles a day to work( thats in and back) Why? because there are no jobs here.
I have a home and land,albeit small acreage, but it helps feed us in the summer, I just worry about what will happen if the grid goes down and the freezer shuts off.
R.

the thread title: Millions of Americans Are Heading to Foodbanks for the First Time in Their Lives,


these millions are not going to the food banks or the soup-kitchens because of extremely dire need...
they are only augmenting their resources.

they are also networking, socializing, and building comradre with others.(as it should be with the truly needy)


the OP makes it sound like many of us (millions) are at deaths door, next to starving, are at wits end
on survival strategies.... yeah right, as they pump $3.00 gas in their late model or hybrid cars that are parked
conviently out of eyesight of the charity food distribution site. (of course the vehicle has the mandatory 'Disabled' tag on the rear-view-mirror)



these are the same folks you witnessed on the Black Friday sales on christmas presents... like 32" flat screens for $200.
Of course these examples are only the worst examples, but the fact that counterfeit 'poor' are among the real 'poor' and availing themselves of resources is just another example of the "Trickle-Down' economy that is touted by the monied and Landed elites that Lord over us common folk.


Please, let the replay of the French Revolution be the Transition/Awakening/Ascension
that we await on the Dec 21st, 2012.... here in the USA


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the only thing that may be 'positive' to come out of this looting-the-storehouse might be
the fact that the politicians will take notice that millions are in these bread lines...

the food stamp safety net and the community food banks/kitchens are a demographic the leadership cannot sluff-off as incidental anomalies within the economy.
As skewed as the truth might be, the clammoring of the population for a subsistance item as primal as food is an indication as to the severity of the crisis --- a crisis which the FED and the Gov't, through the completely
fantastical BLS monthly figures, paint a picture of a mildly displaced economy instead of a system in the death throes that precedes a hyper-inflationary period, soon under way.

the millions on food relief, is more compelling than a 'Poll'... because a Poll is less than visceral as food needs,
the millions on food relief can easily be extrapolated into a voting trend

wow - lots of great comments. Thanks and

...To those who can't imagine how these ex-middle-class people can't live and support their families on $20,000 a year:

1. They're already trapped - in debt up to their eyeballs, and saddled with all kinds of possessions that require maintenance and etc;
2. They lost their jobs, or got downgraded and don't/can't earn anywhere near as much as they used to earn;
3. They don't believe it's over - so they're trying to hold on til things "turn around."

...They are NOT declaring bankruptcy or walking away from their mortgages and credit card debt - they are trying to hold it all together. So they pay enough to keep the bank off their backs, and the bill collectors at bay and the utilities turned on - but they really do not have enough money to buy food.

They are NOT living high off the hog any more - they are just stunned, and too blind to see that they're done.

I posted this sample budget earlier, but think it's time to repost.

SAMPLE BUDGET ............ Month .................... Year
Rent or mortgage ................ $1,200.00 .............. $ 14,400.00
Utilities ............................. 300.00 .............. 3,600.00
Minimum Charge Card Pmts. 500.00 ............... 6,000.00

TOTAL ........................... $ 2000.00............... $ 24,000.00

NOTE: In reality, many if not most are carrying a LOT more than $2000 a month fixed expenses...

But let's play. Basic overhead is $24K and income is down to $20K - where ya gonna cut $4000 - never mind find money for food?

.....Government and the media collude to "prevent panic," and "keep up appearances." If they did not do that, even MORE people will walk away, default on their mortgages, blow off their credit card debt and start over. But then what? ...The so-called economy will fail, and there'll be no money for bailouts this time around.

In their own way, these people are trying to be responsible - to honor their debt and commitments. Should they really be faulted for trying?



btw - I agree with crimvelvet - we have to stop the banksters from looting what's left.

Originally posted by ghostfoot
Yeah I heard on the radio the other day a story about this. In no way am I trying to "diss people" who go to food banks. There were times that were rough for me and I condsidered doing this also. However a big part of the middle class issue I believe is the way people are brainwashed into how they are grocery shopping and how they cook/eat. My husband and I can keep our food costs down to $40 US a month for the both of us (3 meals a day) but he is from Asia and he knows how to shop and cook good. We eat mostly rice and pastas veggies , eggs. and hardly any dairy .Not too much meat, if any, only on special occassion. A lot of seafood( I know that can get expensive we eat that because it is healthy) We dont buy those juices (very expensive and too much sugar) we drink mostly water. As far as the cooking we dont eat slabs of beef or poultry ...if we have this it is shredded and used in rice or some other dish so it goes a lot further than eating a slab of beef at one sitting hehehe. So if we do buy chicken or beef we keep it in the freezer and it lasts a long time..we only use a little at a time. We try to eat vegetarian a few times a week. Most co workers I talk to spend almost $300 a week on food for a family of 4 but when I aske them what they buy it seems they buy processed foodsmostly in boxes//junk food and expensive juices the ones that are like 3.00 or almost 4 .00 a bottle and foods that are instant or already cut up (ie buying chicken breasts instead of buying a whole chickeN) . I also think people waste a lot of food also. I do agree it is hard and food is expensive but you can do it on a budget if you change your shopping and cooking habits.

Wow registered here for a year and not so much as a single star?!? Well here is your first

Oh and I agree with you. It is amazing how much a food budget can be trimmed down once you eliminate simple waste. Also...and I know that you said that you and your husband do not eat much meat, but for those that do...those $5.99 roasted chickens at like Safeway/Fry's grocery stores...man those can go a LONG way.

Also yes with rice (I lived 13 years in Hawaii so ummm yea I get what you are saying and in fact if I do not have rice for extended periods I go into rice withdrawals lol).

NT

Originally posted by againuntodust
I have a feeling if these people weren't buying booze, cigarettes and drugs that they wouldn't need food assistance. quote]

I agree with you fully. I can say this, because I know, first hand people that do this.
They keep enough money to Pay Rent/ Utilities, even cable for some of them. And they buy pain killers, beer, cannabis, etc, with the rest. And hit the food bank every week at the church.

One found out about it and told another, now their all happy about it because it gives them that much money to buy their substance of choice. And their all very open about it. I hope this is a small percentage, I'm sure, there are many, who rely on this to truly get by.

S&F OP

People cannot be blamed for the circumstances they now find themselves in. We've suffered the breakdown of the family unit. The 'nuclear family' far from grandparents, aunts and uncles for the sake of obtaining employment. (That began in the 1970's). Next we had 'womens' liberation' or rather the 'super woman' of the 1980's and the 'new man' (remember?). Ladies can 'have it all' - the children, the career, etc. What they really meant was ladies you can 'do it all' and pay us income tax while you're at it. It's also a form of 'divide and conquer'.

But ladies and gents...did we really have children to put them in the care of some underpaid teenager while we undertook full time employement to pay for that horrendously overvalued property? That property that required a loan of up to four times the actual worth of the dwelling place. Qui bono? The banks....only ever the banks.

I thought women's lib was about choice....little of our lifestyle over the past 20 years has been about choice - it has been of necessity. 20 quid for a dvd player and yet it costs a month's salary to pay my utility bills? I don't want any more 'stuff' - I want a quality of life that involves me with my family and with my community.

We need to alter what we consider to be valuable in this life. Chasing money for money's sake was always a vulgar activity anyway. That was instilled in the 1980's. This is now 'the teenies'. A new era in which we need to change our MINDS.

Has anyone ever heard of L.E.T.S. (Local Exchange Trading Systems)? You need about 12 people to get is started. All skills welcome - and everyone gets paid the same hourly rate of whatever 'currency' you decide upon. One person does the admin and gets the same as anyone else per hour. Tradespeople undertake the work while the person having the work done provides the materials etc. Pet feeding, gardening, anything at all really. It's a great community activity, keeps skills in use and helps people keep their homes and gardens in a good state of repair. (Can be googled for proper info).

Ps. I started growing my own veg 2 years ago. Organic, tastes better and it's cheap. (I don't even buy seeds anymore - I just let a cpl of plants go to seed and collect them for next season. Thousands of seeds from one cabbage plant.)

Originally posted by againuntodust
The article states this, immediately before the portion you quoted:

So far, for 2010 FBSJ has witnessed a 10% increase in their client base of approximately 100,000 people. Here's the surprise: a large portion of the people needing food assistance today are working, and especially among FBSJ's new clients, many are earning incomes nearly twice the poverty line of $22,055 per year for a family of four (up to 185% of poverty).

I have a feeling if these people weren't buying booze, cigarettes and drugs that they wouldn't need food assistance. But I am just drawing from personal experience - what I've seen through my life on who uses and abuses these programs.

And not to be harsh, I know 22,000 for a family of four is hard, but it is definitely do-able - even without government help. Been there. Done that.

edit on 2-1-2011 by againuntodust because: (no reason given)

I can't even tell you how many times i have seen people buy not only alcohol and cigarettes but lottery tickets with their EBT cards.

On the other hand, Germany is more prosperous than ever.

You know why? it's because they didn't outsource anything. No German business moved from Germany to South East Asia.

American businesses, in the name of Capitalism, moved all their factories over to the far East. And now you pay for it.

reply to post by zerbot565


I feel you, but we have to keep in mind that the cost of living is different from area to area. And it can vary by quite a bit.