Millions of Americans Are Heading to Foodbanks for the First Time in Their Lives

Forget about politics and the economy.

Food and the right to feed ones self and their children is a God given right that should never come down to an individuals earnings or lack there of.

In nature we and every other species have a right to fight to the death and kill if need be to ensure we get the basics we need in order to survive.

It is the simple law of nature. More important than any man - made law in existence.



The sad and infuriating thing is there is enough food to feed every man woman and child the world over but we allow TPTP to use our God given rights as a weapon to control us by allowing them to control the food supply..

Every human being is born naked and has a basic right/need for warmth, food ,shelter and water . Everything else is subsidiary and no government or system has a right to deny any one of us these basic human rights.



WAKE UP SHEEPLE.

reply to post by soficrow


You are forgetting the 20-30% in yearly taxes that government takes from that $24,000 figure. And if you do own a home, average property tax bill $1132 across the USA. As well as the 1560$ in gas to run one vehicle for a year(not counting car maintance).

reply to post by soficrow


great I work at a food bank ><

you know it's funny...we've been seeing more and more white middle class looking people lately...

But yet we still send food to third world countries and are struggling to feed our own,,,,very shameful.

reply to post by LordBaskettIV

You are forgetting the 20-30% in yearly taxes that government takes from that $24,000 figure. And if you do own a home, average property tax bill $1132 across the USA. As well as the 1560$ in gas to run one vehicle for a year(not counting car maintance).

Never mind the obligatory stylist and manicures - a woman can't keep a decent job without them! ...I started out facetious, but it's really not. The jobs go the people who can keep up appearances. (Long live the '80's.)


reply to post by freedish

I work at a food bank ><

you know it's funny...we've been seeing more and more white middle class looking people lately...

These are the people who are hardest hit - they walked into the collapse with the most debt, baggage and too much stuff to handle. ...and they really don't know how to live poor.


reply to post by chimaybliss

But yet we still send food to third world countries and are struggling to feed our own,,,,very shameful.

Push is coming to shove. I hope we ALL find our way with compassion, kindness and generosity.

It's been interesting to read about food banks in USA. Eye opening, in fact.

I volunteer one night each week at a food bank in our nearest town. It's an inter-denominational "drop in centre" run by the RC chapels, Protestant churches & the local mosque. We've got our own Portakabin (trailer in USA speak ?) and the council don't charge us local taxes for that, we've been fortunate too in that the utility companies have waived their bills three years in a row now.

And we've got food galore. We've got so much food spare we don't know what to do with it. Our supermarkets bring in their near end date food every night, the local bakeries drop in their unsold items too. Two local factories also provide clothing (clothes which maybe have failed a quality check e.g. seams in the wrong places etc ... but are too good to throw away). A local doctor visits every night for a "street surgery", we've got mental health & drug specialists in once each week plus someone from the Council to help provide emergency accommodation.

We do get the occasional "middle class person" dropping in for a meal. They're always the exception, it's invariably young men who've been thrown out of the family home for bad behaviour and for whom a few nights on the streets is punishment enough for their misdemeanours. You tend to see them only once or twice before the family takes them back in.

The rest ? It's the hardcore feckless. I don't mean to cause outrage, but most of our clientele should really be in institutionalised care, they demonstrate almost feral behaviour. Whether that's because they're on the streets ... or why they're on the streets ... I honestly don't know. But they get paid substantial sums through social security benefits yet have no money to buy or prepare food. Or to buy clothing. Or pay utility bills. And offer them trousers or shirts from our "clothes bank" and they'll say no ... they only want designer labels. Offer them sandwiches to take home ... and they'll say they don't like the fillings, can't they get anything else ? They don't like potatoes, can't they have fries instead ? They don't like the soup, they don't like the bakery goods. But hey, doesn't every single one of them have the latest mobile phone ? The Nike trainers ? We even had one in with an iPad the other week, complaining that we don't provide free wifi.

The Christian in you says you shouldn't expect thanks, that charitable acts have no reward in this mortal world. But it'd be nice after working 3 hours for someone to say "thank you". But na, never are those words uttered. And the more you do for them, the more they expect. But dare challenge them on their drug/alcohol dependance, their irresponsible behaviours (spawning child after chid after child, with no thought whatever for the consequences) and you'll get an absolute mouthful ... "it's none of your business" or "I'm going to complain".

And complain they do. About a charity, the sole purpose of which is to give food, shelter, medical treatment & clothing. It's the most thankless task ever. I'd encourage everyone to try it though, it's a total eye opener to how craven and perverse the social security & care services are in this country.

That's my experience from UK-land.

This doesn't even happen in places like China because people know how to save their money.

Rice and meat are more expensive there than here, and we actually earn ten times more than them.

How do they manage not to starve?

Originally posted by soficrow
Eventually, we need to rethink our economy and of course, change it.

We know what works. It worked very well in fact and gave us the lifestyle many are missing now. The more power the Progressives have, the more people suffer. History does repeat, over and over again. Only a Free Market, Capitalism, limited Government and a productive workforce can enjoy what we are loosing under this new Progressive agenda.

Over three trillion in new debt in just two years and growing quickly. The solution starts in the Polling Booth. People are waking up, but not fast enough. What we see in Greece and other Progressive Nations is not far away here. Look at California. Completely broke and yet it's Progressive voting population is still demanding more.

Look to the Former Soviet Union if you want to see our future under this insane agenda. Even Obama knows that is our future, but it's what he wants. A two class society is on the way compliments of Obama, the Unions and the poor and illiterate they control with gifts called Entitlements.

Originally posted by die_another_day
This doesn't even happen in places like China because people know how to save their money.

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Response by manta78
Actually Taiwan does have a food stamp program if you view the article here:

"Updated Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:24 am TWN, The China Post news staff
Food stamps given out to Taipei, Kaohsiung needy
TAIPEI, Taiwan -- The Taipei and Kaohsiung city governments have started distributing food vouchers to families that need immediate financial aid. The opposition Democratic Progressive Party wanted the central government to adopt the same practice for the whole nation."
Link here:
www.chinapost.com.tw...

edit on 2-1-2011 by manta78 because: (no reason given)

this aint good dude! not good at all

Originally posted by againuntodust

Originally posted by soficrow

Originally posted by againuntodust

...not to be harsh, I know 22,000 for a family of four is hard, but it is definitely do-able - even without government help. Been there. Done that.

I'm sure you have, as have many other members here. But this story is about the middle class - think debt-load, and people trying to hang on to their homes, pay bills and avoid bankruptcy.

SAMPLE BUDGET ............ Month ................. Year
Rent or mortgage ................ $1,200.00 .............. $ 14,400.00
Utilities ............................. 300.00 .............. 3,600.00
Minimum Charge Card Pmts. 500.00 ............... 6,000.00

TOTAL ............................................................ $ 24,000.00

So let's play - where ya gonna cut $2000. - never mind find money for food?

Numbers don't lie (although 500 for credit cards a month is a lot). Thing is, if you're no longer making enough money to live in your house you have to move. There are lots of subsidized housing units available for low-income families, where that 1200 a month can turn into something much more manageable. Same with utilities, there are plenty of programs that can drastically reduce what you pay in utilities based on what you earn... and sometimes credit card payments will have to not be made if it's a choice between that and food.

In the end, though, it's all about survival. Anyone in the situation to stand in line for free food has my sympathy.

If $500 is a Lot.......

Did know the AVG US credit card holder has $8,000 owning on it at any one time.
So for ordinary folk to have

Originally posted by Niall197
The Christian in you says you shouldn't expect thanks, that charitable acts have no reward in this mortal world. But it'd be nice after working 3 hours for someone to say "thank you". But na, never are those words uttered. And the more you do for them, the more they expect. But dare challenge them on their drug/alcohol dependance, their irresponsible behaviours (spawning child after chid after child, with no thought whatever for the consequences) and you'll get an absolute mouthful ... "it's none of your business" or "I'm going to complain".

And complain they do. About a charity, the sole purpose of which is to give food, shelter, medical treatment & clothing. It's the most thankless task ever. I'd encourage everyone to try it though, it's a total eye opener to how craven and perverse the social security & care services are in this country.

That's my experience from UK-land.

I work at a food bank too...sometimes I go a few hours without a thank you, but that's not why I signed up for the job...besides Jesus said the poor would always being among you, I don't think He was saying not to help them, but just that you shouldn't worry to much about the poor because it's just part of life. Do what you can for them, and take a thank you when you can, and know that whilst some people aren't saying thank you deep down they really do appreciate it...they just don't know how to express it.

Lets look at this from outside the box!

The USA is finished it has been for some time, but as time roles on it's becoming far more difficult to hide the facts,more so than even we realise!

We watch those nice Hollywood films and it presents a type of normality and continuance, watch CNN, FOX, and the rest of the main stream media tools, and little or nothing is mentioned about what is really happening under the façade of lies and deception.

The FED has the licence to print it’s own money ( fiat currency), a great tool to cover up or paper over the reality of the real world. Think of America as an egg, or a balloon, it displays a hard shell of external cohesion, but underneath this thin vainer there is no infrastructure to speak of. Most of middle America is a waist land, the industrial base is dead, the service sector is dying as things are moved to the East, where people work for a 1$ a week or day. The government lackeys, are corrupt, and slaves to the NWO bankster cartels, whose only mission in life at this time, is absolute and complete destruction of the USA, and the global system. Hundreds of new people right across the USA every day are being forced to live in tents and basements across the states, relaying on family and soup kitchens to survive. Whole areas of industrial manufacturing buildings lay dormant and decaying like some post war apocalyptic waist land, with no hope of regeneration. The roads are being left to decay without any maintenance, in short the whole country has been and is still being raped by these evil cartels. But sport, comedy shows, and Hollywood block busters are still being rolled of the production line to help dupe the masses and the world, and maintain the status quo! The truth is people have been and still are being brain washed. If the BBC, or Sky news says something it’s true, as they have spent decades hatching their evil devious plans in plain sight slowly conditioning people to expect less and less. Of course they can complain, but you will be ignored, demonstrate of course, but any more than 20 or 30 people, and the company infiltrators will move in and create violence and show you as the enemy of the people, we see what’s going on all around us, but sad to say, the majority does not. They need to be woken up to the real world and not some half life fantasy they are being sold!

Make no mistake, these people behind it all are pure evil megalomaniacs, money junkies, whose only mission in life is to subdue, control and subjugate the globe. Moulding the world into some twisted vision they have where they have complete and total control. They make the words dictator and Adolf Hitler sound almost tame as it seems their evil know no bounds.

But this economic war, and wanted de-construction of the world is rapidly coming to an end, sooner than we even think, the imminent bankruptcy of many states is only weeks at best a few months away, how will they hide it then? Unless, people start to band together very soon, organise themselves and fight back one way or another. The power of the masses will walk quietly into the night never to taste any resemblance of free thought or movement ever again.

Greetings soficrow,

May I respectfully question the reporter, Chaz Valenza?

How can this be? Didn't our foreign-born president declare the stimulus expenditures to be successful? For the past two years hussein obama, and his bosses, Cass Sunstein, Bill Ayers, Van Jones, and George Soros, have enjoyed total control over the Congress, the Supreme Court and the mainstream media. In light of such total control (without annoyances from the GAO) didn't hussein-obama promise income redistribution and full socialism? What about the obamacare socialized medicine law, and the death panels to weed out senior citizens?

Is the news report a misprint? barry soetoro obama's 35+ member czar staff (led by Cass Sunstein, a devout Stalinist) would have noticed and done something about it long before Chaz Valenza noticed, wouldn't they?

With the most powerful Communists in the country in full control for the last 2 years (George Soros, Cass Sunstein, Bernadine Dohrn, Van Jones, and Bill Ayers) how can this not be a typo, on the part of the reporter, Chaz Valenza?

Regards

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I never really cared what was happening inside the USofA, and for quite a was amusing to watch. But when you look at all the news from 5 years ago about, the White House, FBI, CIA, Homeland Security, Police, Laws Changed, Rights Lost, Wall Street, Bankers, FEMA the list goes on and on and on and on. It actually scares the crap out of me Now. I do feel relatively safe down under, but afraid the US based Cancer/Paranoia will be exported Wolrd Wide.

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Hate? I dont hate the americans. if anything I feel sorry for them/ us. Sorry that they/we have allowed them and our selves to be deluded for so long. Not just them but us all. As crimvelvet has altready said its the banksters, who are at fault. My hate is for them if any one. You sound like the Politicians here in the UK. (who are mostly millionairs ) We are all in it togeather. We are not in it altogeather. Half the world isnt starving? The peace prize winner and his war in the Afghan? Did he shut gitmo yet? Has he brought the troops home yet? Hes just another useless lying politician who will say or do any thing, for money. Dosnt matter who we elect into power, they are all just puppets, with some corps hand up their asses.

What's a food bank?

A friend of a friend who knows someone (notice how i'm trying hard to distance myself from this) told a friend of mine that he's taken to poaching. Whether it's fishing rivers he is not supposed to, trapping rabbits or even killing the odd deer without permission, all to help support his family.

Harsh times for many.

reply to post by againuntodust

is a family of four eligible for subsidized housing??
even if they are, it kind of defeats your argument, since well, if they are going for the housing vouchers, they aren't making it on their own, are they?? who cares if they are picking up the slack through food handouts or subsidies? and to be honest, many of these people standing line might only need to stand in line once in awhile, whereas housing subsidies would continue on month after month till their income reaches above the limit.

so, seems to me, you are knocking people for taking the least amount of assistance that they can get by with instead of putting a greater burden on the gov't programs and taxpayers.