reply to post by truthiron
I get the impression that this isn't a stand alone thread, but rather a branch-off from some other thread.
"the place of His Sanctuary cast down" may refer to their church, denomination and that they are in apostasy.
Is your concern primarily a denominational issue? Someone says, "our church was supposed to be the repository of truth. We have fallen into apostasy!"
Then someone else says, "No, it was apostates who snuck in that have caused our fall!"
This isn't happening in olden times but is to happen I find in our time. Our Redeemer is the High Priest in the Heavenly Sanctuary now "daily"
ministering in our behalf. I can easily see when Satan comes on the scene personating the Redeemer that this would be the ultimate transgression and
then for this reason Our High Priest stands up and the "daily" ministering would cease.
You assume that the event of "standing up" Daniel 12:1 is so climactic that it couldn't have happened in the last generation or in the one before
that. To you it is in fact the "close of probation", the end of judgment and beginning of "the time of trouble, such as never was".
HEB 10:11 Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take
away sins. 12 But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God. 13 Since that time he waits
for his enemies to be made his footstool, 14 because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.
That footstool reference then, refers to Psalm 110.
PS 110:5 The Lord is at your right hand;
he will crush kings on the day of his wrath.
PS 110:6 He will judge the nations, heaping up the dead
and crushing the rulers of the whole earth.
That does sound like something that couldn't easily be ignored or pass some one's notice.
This all gets rather involved.
3 sanctuaries, one on a mountain not made by hands, one made by hands some distance away from Zion,(I don't know how far Zion is from the temple
mount, but it isn't the same thing), and now heaven itself as the sanctuary.
A fake could access any of these, if you count projections in the sky. Interesting dilemma you have here. I'm beginning to think that
KeepUptheMATRIXing may just have a simpler approach.
I didn't get to the final phase of development of Nebuchadnezzar, he was finally humbled so far as to become a beast. Daniel Chapter 4. After he was
restored to sanity he did not issue any decrees, he merely gave his testimony:
37 Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and exalt and glorify the King of heaven, because everything he does is right and all his ways are just. And those
who walk in pride he is able to humble.
That sounds to me like what Jesus talked about. Childlike entry.
Daniel is like a new Moses. From the people, trained in the latest languages and lore, yet humble. Admitting always his lack of understanding. So
humble a man as to learn the names of angels and know them as servants of the Most High and of the nations, as princes even given charge of the
Contrast that with Moses. An angel says, "I am Yahweh. But you people are too wicked for me to hang with, most likely, I'd kill you, so I'll send my
angel Yahweh instead." Moses didn't get to learn the names of these angels.
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