The Great Santa Claus Conspriacy! Why do we do this to our children! NOT a typical complaint

I don't know what it is but... Well first of all. Merry Christmas and I hope a wonderful 2011 New Year for you all. But, the older I get & at this time of year, the more I think back of my childhood and Santa Experience. It got me to thinking when I compare it to today's Christmas's. And then I expand that thinking about what Christmas was like prior to me being around and long before then. I came up with this:

The Great Santa Claus Conspriacy!

Most of you probably have visions of this type of image when you thing back to your youth and Christmas:
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Or This:
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And, of course, this:
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This is the image THEY want you to have. To keep the children compliant and in line. We fill there heads with fluff instead of the truth. When does it stop? Usually after a childhood friend tells the child that Santa does exist. That Santa is a fairtale. A way to keep them DOWN!

But, recently I receieved proof that a resistance that had begun long ago but thought to have been stomped out.. no... it lives. Not all the children have fallen to this notion... this mind control... the insanity. And they are letting it be know!!!!

God Bless them. I present to you... The Santa Resistance Front!!!! Please support their efforts and keep your kids away !! What the hell is up with these Santa's? Did the PTB slip a little when they sent these operatives in?

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We're Screwed:
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The Little One just figured it out....He ain't no Santa
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My Personal Favorite: Mr. Sensitive
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Well, I think you see. From what the PTB want you to believe and how things are suppose to be to what actually if going on in most children's lives. Again I ask, Why do we do this (Santa Claus) to our Children?

[NOTE: If you have any creepy Santa pics-please post]

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See you on Christmas..... Muhhhahhhahhahaaa

LOL! I love it! I cannot stop grinning at those adorable pictures!

My favorite is the next to the last one, I simply to have to ask, "Which one?"!

Unfortunately, I no longer have my childhood photos, most were lost in a fire, but I remember one from the second grade. Lets just say I was as nonplussed as some of these kids appear to be. I hated going to see Santa, I always (yes even at my young tender age) thought he was pervie. It just made my skin crawl.

Now, riding the Pink Pig, that's *another* story all together! *giggle*

en.wikipedia.org...'s_Great_Tree

www.wsbtv.com...

I could not, *would* not miss the Pink Pig! But I sure would traverse a huge circle around Santacreepy!

Santa clause gives a kid something to look forward too.

You can always tell a child when they are acting up *if you dont behave santas not coming for christmas*

It is quite funny actually, watching parents shut their kids up with it.

This year, I have been struggling with the Santa story with my kids. Something is just telling me enough. I loved the thought of Santa when I was a kid, up until a couple years ago. Seems kind of cruel when the truth is found out. Christmas has been so hijacked by commercialism....it's sad.

Do you remember the creepy paranoid feeling of being told that he is watching you at all times?
Do you remember being manipulated to do everything your parents made you do...or Santa won't come?
Do you remember how it felt when you found out Santa wasn't real?
Didn't you feel a bit of a fool for having been the brunt of a joke?
Didn't you feel a bit of anger toward your parents?

I suppose the Santa lie teaches a child to deal with betrayal of trust in his parents at an early age. It also teaches him the importance of lying in order to keep the secret. It is probably one of the first psych ops parents administer on their children by giving them the conflicting moral dilemma of being instructed to tell the truth in certain matters, yet requiring and sanctioning lying by threatening punishment if a child tells "the truth" of Santa to others.

Upon learning the truth about Santa (which "truth" is actually a "lie"), the child must then become an accomplice in the betrayal in keeping the facts from other siblings. Perhaps this distraction of coercion helps in his psychological dilemma of having been betrayed himself by trusting the only people who should always be honest to him.

I think this is a big step in teaching a child to compromise moral integrity; children must learn how to lie. I do not believe that lying is inherent or innate; it does not come natural to a child. Lying is an action that is reinforced with reward or punishment. By these early methods of psychological ploys, a child learns to be selective in which "truth" he tells.

I think these twisted morals are ways to psychologically undermine the trust that should be binding between families.

You folks are depressing me.

This thread was to make you laugh-cheer ones heart...

lol Dam.....

Christian religious parallel for children. Do this and get that in the end. Don't do this and get a lump of doo in the end. Relies solely on faith of an old bearded guy in the sky.

It's always bad to lie to children

reply to post by traditionaldrummer


And what does this have to do with God? Seems like a dig to christianity...though completely unwarranted.

Originally posted by dialecticchaos77
Are you insecure about what you believe/don't believe in? You start attacking a religion....yet no one here attacked you.

I attacked nobody's religion.
Only drew the obvious parallel between christianity and the Santa myth.
Please calm down.

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Sorry, I posted before I thought about it. Hence the edit to not sound like as much of a jerk.

Originally posted by dialecticchaos77
And what does this have to do with God? Seems like a dig to christianity...though completely unwarranted.

edit on 23-12-2010 by dialecticchaos77 because: changed my mind

I'm sorry you feel that way. The Santa myth parallels a reward/punishment theme present in christianity. It also relies on a child's faith and coincides with arguably the most important christian holiday that there is. You can take this as a dig should you choose though that is not my intent.

Eh for me the santa lie was over very soon (3 years old) ...

My mon said "so alex what do you want santa to bring you for christmas?" and i replied "Better give me the money instead of buying me another thing that i never use" so ... me 1 santa 0

But christmas is a great time of the year and santa shouldn't be only about expensive gifts... although that is what it became ... christmas now is just a spend a lot holiday ...

In all honesty its, not as bad as teaching your child they will burn in hell fire should they commit a sin or that an omnipresent person called god is watching your every move. Well I guess santa does that too, but at least he brings presents (only if your good)

Sure lets tell kids the truth. They will only miss out on some of the fun most here had when they were young enough to believe. You get rid of Santa Clause then you pretty much get rid of Christmas. After all, why wait until Christmas when you know its just your mommy and daddy getting it anyways. There isn't a man keeping a list and checking it twice.

Screw it, take away the holiday season and just give the snot nosed brats their legos and nerf guns on some random day.

I will keep the Santa myth going with my little girl, because I remember nothing but good times when I was young enough to believe. To be honest I don't remember when I found out the truth so it couldn't have been traumatizing enough to warrant me not keeping the tradition alive in my family. Yes, my little girl will sit on his lap in the mall, we will read Twas the night before Christmas on Christmas eve and she will believe in Santy Clause.

That is, she will believe in him until some snot nosed kid decides to be a butt and tell her the truth. That little snot will probably belong to one of you who decides not to enjoy the Santa tradition. That will lead to your little heathon to want to ruin it for everyone else.

Nice parenting.

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How soon we forget.

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Tooth fairy, Easter Bunny, Santa Claus.


All good fun. Let kids be kids. I haven't seen or met anyone yet who is overly traumatized over no Santa. Well maybe this little fella
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Oh yea, Let's not forget the Grinch!
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Originally posted by Becoming
That is, she will believe in him until some snot nosed kid decides to be a butt and tell her the truth. That little snot will probably belong to one of you who decides not to enjoy the Santa tradition. That will lead to your little heathon to want to ruin it for everyone else.

Nice parenting.

A kid unraveling the lie you told your children is "snot-nosed", a heathen and the victim of bad parenting why again? Because you lied to your children because you though it'd be fun for them? Did you think this through?

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And one more.....that poor baby!
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Come on as long as your 13 year old is not walking around telling kids *THERE IS TOO A SANTA YOU LIAR*

I seem no harm in it for a kid 1-5 years old, they would barley even understand why their parents are giving them *stuff*, why not add santa to the mix and make it fun.

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If I were a religious person, as a response to this post I would declare "AMEN!"

If you play a little musical chairs game on this scenario and substitute clergy for parents, "the masses" for children, jesus for santa, heaven for presents and hell for coal - then you have (drumroll) ORGANIZED RELIGION.
Sort of.