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Originally posted by Hazmat77
reply to post by christina-66
You judge an entire nation and millions of people by the idiotic comments of ONE person? And yet you expect us to believe that you are intelligent. Surely you jest.
House Resolutions have no legal effect, and this merely restated the position the USA has taken in the past.
The anger and hatred expressed on this thread is insane. You objectors either refuse to admit the truth or are ignornant of it.
We saw from the recent document dump by Wikileaks that the Arab nations do not fear Israel ... first and foremost they fear the Islamic crazies in Iran.
Israel and the USA agreed to the TWO State solution when it was first proposed - it was the Arabs who said NO, by the force of bullets they intended to take the whole enchilada.
Jews have lived in the territory now known as Israel for Centuries - long before Islam and Christianity were invented.
Most of you jew haters fail to understand history, and your own biblical history ....
Another anti semetic thread. What about the attrocities in ie Darfur?
In Break With U.N., Bush Calls Sudan Killings Genocide
By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, June 2, 2005
. . .
The United States, under the 1948 U.N. convention on genocide, is committed to preventing such killings and punishing the killers if it deems a genocide is taking place.
The resolution now takes effect. [Last Updated: Dec 16, 2010 12:03PM]
Last Action: Dec 15, 2010: On motion to suspend the rules and agree to the resolution Agreed to by voice vote.
Votes: Dec 15, 2010: This resolution passed in the House of Representatives by voice vote. A record of each representative’s position was not kept.
Palestinian Statehood on the Agenda
by Muriel Mirak-Weissbach
. . .
It is important to stress that the resolution did not come in response to the Palestinian Authority’s having made any such unilateral declaration of independence. However, discussion of such an initiative has been spreading since Israel rejected the “incentives” proposed by the Obama government for it to halt settlements: In addition to $3 billion more in military aid, the US government had reportedly offered Israel a mafia-style protection option, whereby Washington would shoot down any attempt in the United Nations to condemn or sanction Israel – or to act on a unilateral declaration of independence by the Palestinian Authority. The mere suggestion that any country should require such protection by a superpower is tantamount to a declaration of moral bankruptcy by that country, but that is not the point. The point is that Israel flatly rejected it, thus signaling its commitment to continue taking over Palestinian land in fulfillment of the radical Zionist vision of a Greater Israel. And “to hell with the rest of the world,” Netanyahu might have added.
In ancient times it was customary for conquered people to recognize the gods of their conquerors as more powerful than their own gods, and to at least add them to the gods they worshiped. In some of the conquering empires the Emperor was considered a god and Emperor Worship was expected of all of his subjects. This was a problem for the monotheistic Jews of the conquered Land of Israel. Their religion forbade the worship of other gods. In addition to a challenge to maintaining their monotheistic religion, the people were challenged to retain their language and customs while part of a large Empire that conducted its business in a different language.
I've watched a few clips of AIPAC meetings in a grand hall. There is the overwhelming aura of "We are the movers and shakers of the world." This profoundly effects the psychological well-being of the participants.
The Crusaders, however, broke the alliance and invaded Palestine about a year later. They captured Jaffa and Jerusalem in 1099, slaughtered many Jewish and Muslim defenders and forbade Jews to live in Jerusalem. They held the city until 1187. In that year, the Muslim ruler Saladin conquered Jerusalem.
The Zionists established farm communities in Palestine at Petah Tikva, Zichron Jacob, Rishon Letzion and elsewhere. Later they established the new city of Tel Aviv, north of Jaffa. At the same time, Palestine's Arab population grew rapidly. By 1914, the total population of Palestine stood at about 700,000. About 615,000 were Arabs, and 85,000 to 100,000 were Jews.
Originally posted by Hazmat77
reply to post by christina-66
"I was playing backgammon with a lass the other day on the net, who declared herself to be from Israel. I was winning the match - she proceeded to call me a 'moslem[sic] ****. a German*****, and finally, a homosexual****. (I'm an indigenous Scottish divorcee with 2 children) In retaliation I called her a bigot, a racist, and a sexist. She then claimed I was an anti-Semite and threatened to report me. I pointed out that Arabs were also a Semitic people. I cannot abide having that term thrown at me as an insult or when I am criticising a country's political strategy....and all this anti-Semitism nonsense has been hidden behind for long enough. In regard to it being used against anyone who dares criticize what is being inflicted on the Palestinians it is repelling. "
The above paragraph from your post specifically deals with what ONE Person, as I stated, said to you. While it seemed logical to infer from her comments that you were condemning all Jews, but on review I may have jumped to a wrong conclusion. I am NOT a religious believer, albeit of Hebrew descent and I find unjustified criticisms to be beyond the pale.
The Palestinians have basically wasted 6 decades ... had they spent that time working with Israel, through economic partnership, they could have built a dynamic, free society and become the jewel of the Arab world; instead they wallowed in anger and irrational behavior - in the name of Allah.
In the USA there is no proscription against anyone of any religious belief from owning or developing a media company. The Internet has made it easier than ever to become a publisher. If you give the people what they want to read, listen to or view, you'll be successful.
History, and different perceptions of history, are perhaps the most important factors in the Arab-Israeli conflict. Accounts of history, interpreting history in different ways, are used to justify claims and to negate claims, to vilify the enemy and to glorify "our own" side. Dozens of accounts have been written. Most of the accounts on the Web are intended to convince rather than to inform.
This very brief account is intended as a balanced overview and introduction to Palestinian and Israeli history, and the history of the conflict. It is unlikely that anyone has written or will write an "objective" and definitive summary that would be accepted by everyone, but it is hoped that this document will provide a fair introduction.
Has the US been hijacked by Zionist lobbyists and powerbrokers? Is their knowledge of their own religious background so misguided that they think they're collecting Godly brownie points by blindly permitting the State of Israel to break resolution after resolution?
Israel is fast becoming an apartheid state (and the recent strikes on Lebanon seems to have confirmed to it that it can act anyway it desires unimpeded)....
Seems to me that the Palestinians have been treated much fairer by Israel than the USA treated the Cheyenne, Sioux, Apache and most of the other native tribes that lived in the territories now known as the USofA...don't you?
Same goes for the indiginous Mexicans who were unfairly treated by the invading hordes of Spaniards for decades,..is that not also true?
Before condemning Zionists and Israel, descendents of non-jewish Europeans need to look to their own history.