HAARP? You decide, page 1
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reply posted on 14-12-2010 @ 12:39 PM by JustMike
reply to post by emsed1


Contrary to what you have stated, HAARP doesn't use ultra-low frequency (ULF) waves to heat up the ionosphere. HAARP stands for "High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program".

High frequency. So, as HAARP operates at high frequency, I'm not sure how it can be implicated in these ULF that have been observed by DEMETER.

Regards,

Mike


reply posted on 15-12-2010 @ 01:40 PM by emsed1
Originally posted by JustMike
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post by emsed1


Contrary to what you have stated, HAARP doesn't use ultra-low frequency (ULF) waves to heat up the ionosphere. HAARP stands for "High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program".

High frequency. So, as HAARP operates at high frequency, I'm not sure how it can be implicated in these ULF that have been observed by DEMETER.

Regards,

Mike



Good point.

Is it possible though, that using HF transmissions to heat up the ionosphere could trigger ULF waves from rock movements or shifts?


reply posted on 15-12-2010 @ 01:42 PM by emsed1
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Here's a good quote from the HAARP FAQ page:


Can HAARP be used to generate ELF?

Yes. However, the HAARP facility does not directly transmit signals in the ELF frequency range. Instead, ELF signals are generated in the ionosphere at an altitude of around 100 km. Frequencies ranging from below one Hz to about 20 kHz can be generated through this ionospheric interaction process.


How much difference is there between ELF and ULF?


reply posted on 15-12-2010 @ 01:58 PM by emsed1
Doh! I think I DO have the smoking gun:

NASA HAARP ULF Experiment with DEMETER


In addition to ground-based observations, the DEMETER satellite also provided space measurements of the heating effects during its passes over HAARP. The DEMETER results showed direct detection of HAARP ULF waves at 0.1 Hz. Moreover, density dips were observed every time HAARP was operated at CW mode, which provides clear evidence of duct formation by direct HF heating at F peak.




reply posted on 15-12-2010 @ 03:32 PM by gariac
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Ground based receiver doesn't mean the EM waves are in the ground. Rather, they are just receivers on earth rather than at sea or in the air. Generally they use loop antennas or long wires.

Using HAARP to generate ULF is like modulating a carrier wave, basically AM radio.

No smoking gun here.


reply posted on 15-12-2010 @ 09:05 PM by gariac
reply to post by machines4200



I think I'll pass. Jessie Ventura is just TV BS. I can't understand anyone associating with that clown.

There is a fundamental difference with detecting some EM activity from an earthquake or other geophysical event and causing the same event with EM waves. If I bypassed the safety on a microwave oven, I could fry my hand. But there is no way on earth for my hand to produce microwaves.
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