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Anonymous and 4chan - Ran by the CSA?

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posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 02:25 PM
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reply to post by MrDesolate
 


I thought it was the Something Security Agency XDXD That's pretty embarassing, honestly.

As to the comment on the will of the people: if the first amendment is crushed that badly, there will be a popular uprising.




posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 02:28 PM
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What you're saying that they could do would be terribly backwards. If the internet was "shut down" people and private companies would go stir crazy. As dumb as it sounds most of the Joe Public is sedated by the internet and half of them have no idea what's going on outside their little life. Shut down the access for communications and everything else just becomes that much more brighter.

As long as there are computers, TVs, infrastructure to the internet and phones there will be hackers and groups like Anon. The internet at one point was nothing more than computers dialing into each other via the phone. If the entire infrastructure on the internet were to cease operation they would also be doing themselves an injustice. Computer Programmers and Hardware analysts know way more than most believe and can tap into any infrastructure so long as there is power. Don't put it past them to have already created networks across country under some fictitious company name. It's quite easy and somewhat inexpensive to get a Wide Area Network with MPLS set up then all you need a connection to your target, Wifi, celltower, tv, phones, etc.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 02:30 PM
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Take CSA and replace it with any other three letters, remove the linked image... and just read the OP's theory.

I get your point, and you are absolutely correct, but the OP's theory remains valid, and so do my comments on that.




posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by Crakeur
reply to post by Fractured.Facade
 


no, I'm going to stick to the one the OP used because that's the premise of this thread, which is based on a post on another forum.

The OP read the post and declared that anon was being controlled by The CSA and a bunch of folks all posted about it. One member managed to poke fun at the concept, calling it the Canadian Space Agency.

Everyone else was discussing the CSA like it existed and was eeeeevil.



This thread is a perfect example of mob mentality. The dreaded CSA!!! Run for the hills.




posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 02:34 PM
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Really?

They said the same about so called American freedoms.

Yet, the politicians have been removing them bit by bit for almost a century, all the while small business owners and joe public have been bending over further and further.

As long as there is fear, they will have control.

They have created a new boogeyman named Anon, and it will provide all the "fear" neccessary to create the control.

After everyone will lament and moan about how it used to be...just like they do now.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 02:34 PM
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No it doesn't. You've just been successfully trolled.

Unless you are trolling and just successfully trolled me...

Course, I could be trolling and we'll see if I am successful...

Honestly, all the what-ifs about Anonymous are truly funny. I haven't laughed so hard in my life, everyone keep up the good work.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 02:39 PM
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I'll take what is behind door #3

Seriously, it really doesn't matter who is trolling whom, when messages are exchanged and received it is effective communication that matters.

I may join the CSA now, sounds interesting.





posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by peck420
reply to post by Stryker Ops
 


Really?

They said the same about so called American freedoms.

Yet, the politicians have been removing them bit by bit for almost a century, all the while small business owners and joe public have been bending over further and further.

As long as there is fear, they will have control.

They have created a new boogeyman named Anon, and it will provide all the "fear" neccessary to create the control.

After everyone will lament and moan about how it used to be...just like they do now.


Part of the reason that people have put up with it is because it's been so slow. But the nature of the internet means that slowly taking it down is utterly impossible -- the smallest step accelerates instantly.

Anon's been around for a long, long time. At least in Internet Years, they've got to be over 9000.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade

I may join the CSA now, sounds interesting.



since those letters are the basis of every kiddie porn case, you might want to rethink that desire.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 02:53 PM
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No "alphabet agency" needs to infiltrate or take down anything. Some if you hysterics will implode whatever youre involved with no help whatsoever by any nefarious illuminati covert government organization.


Between this and the folks who think this is all something that can be explained/solved by movie quotes and youtubes.. its absolutely no wonder why people who question the status quo are labeled lunatics.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by Crakeur

Originally posted by Fractured.Facade

I may join the CSA now, sounds interesting.



since those letters are the basis of every kiddie porn case, you might want to rethink that desire.


Why?

They already think I'm a terrorist.

May as well add another lie to the list.


Like I care what anyone thinks at this point.

As always, attack the messenger, not the message. ATS at its finest.


I'm going to go have alphabet soup for lunch now...



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 02:57 PM
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Well, I can't say that you're entirely wrong. They have been eroding our freedoms however most bill's they've put into place do not conflict directly with the Bill of Rights. The U.S. Government has become very bold and are attempting to put the pieces in place to modify that which is why Anon exists.

Personally I don't feel that Anon is any Psy-Ops or anything of the like because if they were it wouldn't have been minor DDOS attacks. They would have brought down major infrastructures on the net and it wouldn't have been put forward to the Joe Public as if they were trying to fight for them. This would then usher in the COICA bill which was ALREADY in congress before all of this transpired. Granted timing is peculiar I don't think the organization would try to rally support unless they were trying to make the "threat" into a reality in which there is really no stopping it. Computer Programmers and Hardware Analysts will always find a way around the legalities or the primary parameters in the method.

They would have to shut down every infrastructure that exists if they wanted to actively pursue stifling the Freedom of Speech.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
As always, attack the messenger, not the message. ATS at its finest.



on the contrary friend, I did attack the message. destroyed it actually as the message (the OP) was claiming that "The Child Sexual Abuse" (the CSA) was running anon.

that's impossible and ludicrous.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by Crakeur

Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
As always, attack the messenger, not the message. ATS at its finest.



on the contrary friend, I did attack the message. destroyed it actually as the message (the OP) was claiming that "The Child Sexual Abuse" (the CSA) was running anon.

that's impossible and ludicrous.


Really?

Are you aware of cases involving people who downloaded or viewed "child porn" on 4chan?

impossible?

People have stumbled on a lot of that content on 4chan... and some are being prosecuted.

As a theory, it is entirely possible that (CSA) is involved with 4chan... and because of that possibility other government agencies are also likely involved.

A perfect place for data-mining of users for a wide range of topics, including illegal activity such as child porn, hacking and drugs, gangs etc.

Anything is possible.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 03:15 PM
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Well I just thought he typoed the NSA. Upon reading the link (wihch is just a screen shot of the site and not hte actual site) a little I discover the DOJ, ICE, and Arizona ICAC all involved so I don't think it is wrong to assume government operatives are working on the site as claimed even if they are targeting pedos. I am sure they will take note of other unrelated posts that they perceive as a threat to NS and pass it on to the appropriate agency.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 03:21 PM
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For clarification so as to not get caught up in semantics here... The CSA in this context would be the DoJ.

The OP seems to have assumed that CSA is an agency, and in the context it means child sexual abuse. so take CSA in every post as meaning DoJ, ICE and ICAC and look at it again.

The mistake of the OP in use of letters does not change the implications or invalidate anything here.

So



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
Anything is possible.


I think you may be missing the point. Saying CSA is running 4chan is like saying ALS is running 4chan. No, Lou Gehrig's Disease is not running 4chan. It isn't even possible.

People were running down an alley assuming CSA was some sort of agency that could be running 4chan. Now, you can maybe make a case for theorizing there may be government plants on 4chan, but the idea that Child Sexual Abuse is running 4chan is ludicrous, because it isn't an entity, it's a crime.

Sometimes when you see you're in a hole, the best thing you can do is stop digging.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 03:25 PM
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This is like saying "the Aggravated Assault" runs Anonymous. How can a type of crime run anything?

Not only is it stupid, it's grammatically incorrect and an improper use of the English language.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 03:31 PM
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Semantics people... read my previous post in this thread.

A mistaken assumption by the OP and use of letters does not invalidate anything... Rather than attacking everything the easy way here, why not at least try to look deeper?

Just read my previous post and look at it all again.

Sheesh. I know you want to deny ignorance, but don't jump on a simple mistake and deny everything else.

You should be more open to exploring things here not so willing to trash it.

The theory of the OP is valid, the use of the CSA is the only mistake... Replace it with DoJ and have another look.



posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 03:32 PM
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you seem to be missing the point entirely.

CSA is not an organization. It stands for Child Sexual Abuse.

Perhaps, if you go back and insert Child Sexual Abuse in every instance where CSA appears, you will see how ludicrous the OP, and all subsequent posts, are.



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