Originally posted by LordBucket
But if your goal is to worship and serve corporatism, you can still do that without lying to anyone. You can still buy presents and stockings and
eggnog and stress over shopping and familial relations and do all the other things traditionally done for christmas.
How does the lie improve on this?
It doesn't...plain and simple.
That would be interesting. But I would tend to see it as a fantastic opportunity to develop the relationship between child and parent, while
simultaneously teaching the very valuable lesson to not blindy trust in authority. Because when your six year old looks in your eyes with fire
and anger, insisting that the school taught him that Santa is real...you can very simply hold him and look back into his eyes and tell him you love
him and honor who he is an individualand accept that he must make his own choices...and ask him to please remember that you were not the one who told
him that Santa was real.
Please don't take this as hostile or offensive, but I'm assuming you don't have children?
Cus this kind of advice can not work, and is often the kind you get from young guys and girls with no children, who think things work in this civil
"rational manner" when dealing with little ones.
My own experience is different. I have no children,
Lol...again, no offense is meant here, but I can tell.
but I remember very clearly when I asked my mother if Santa was real. She told me that some people believed in him, and some people didn't, but that
I'd have to decide for myself.
Same line I give my kid about Santa and God and Ghosts and anything else in those "areas" of belief.
So I told her that I decided that I didn't believe in Santa, but that I still believed the Easter Bunny was real. And she said that was ok.
Sounds...logical? lol...kids say the damnedest things. My kid also tells me that ghosts are real because he saw "Ghost hunters" at his cousin's
house...fact remains, while your mom was nice enough to "lie" to you about Santa, and the Easter Bunny (as I am doing with my son), the crrect thing
to do would be to be honest...but these false idols are protected to the point where your mother and myself are forced to beat around bushes and hide
the truth instead of saying-
Son...easter bunny is fake...Santa is fake...end of story...don't be stupid...its dangerous.
And we went right on celebrating christmas. And years later when I decided I didn't believe in the Easter Bunny either, we went right on celebrating
Lol...I didn't bring up my problems with easter, but I have more then a few...but we gotta wait until April before I beat the crap outta the easter
bunny in a new thread.
No drama or trauma involved, nobody lied, and no holidays were harmed in the process.
Well actually...here is the deal...I try very hard to be honest and from day one have told my kid "everyone has a lie to tell, but your father will
always be honest with you. You can trust me more then anyone".
He quotes that line for line actually...often. He knows I am not going to lie to him.
So when he asked is Santa real, and I reply- "some people believe in Santa, and some don't". I am not only dodging the question, but also being
intentionally dishonest...and for what? A fabricated Western tradition built on greed, lies and commerce.
Its that simple.
The role of a parent is not to mold, but to guide.
Lol...sir, forgive me this, but wait until you have children before you start assuming what role a parent has. Cus really...it is your job to mold AND
guide, protect AND teach, support AND challenge, feed AND dress, transport AND keep your children...
Trust me on this one...I used to say the same thing when I went around giving advice to parents as a single young man with no child of my own...once
your in the driver seat of a young human's life- all that mumbo-jumbo happy-hooplah talk goes right out the window and suddenly your debating with a
screaming kid, telling him-
"Ghost Hunters is a fake and a crappy show"
while he screams back-
"no way! the show is real! YOU are a LIAR! I HATE YOU!".
Like I said...logic and reason do not mash well with a six year old...pretending they do is fine up until your raising one and trying to use logic and
reason to rectify a "problem" your boy is convinced on.
Again...mark my words.
edit on 3-12-2010 by Mr Mask because: (no reason given)