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WAKE UP!: Proof Something Is Wrong With Our Solar System Right Now!

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posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 04:44 PM
reply to post by The Quiet Storm

Many of us have noticed this for a long time.

I have posted much of the same information as Rajaten since 2006, but also reposted some of the information in 2010.

Here is my thread from 2006

Here is the one from 2010

Could the anomalies happening in the Solar System be the Cause for Climate Change?

Space radiation hits record high

Even NASA, and ESA announced that the amount of space dust was increasing exponentially and until at least 2012. But at first this increase of space dust was due to the sun's magnetic poles not having flipped completely, but even then that does not explain the exponential increase in space dust or what caused the sun's magnetic poles to not flip completely.

I also reported other changes in the Solar System that have been affecting Earth as well, such as the increased radiation.

Surprise In Earth's Upper Atmosphere: Mode Of Energy Transfer From The Solar Wind

Some people have asked why in recent months when the Sun's activity was down was there a slight increase in temperatures.

Surprise In Earth's Upper Atmosphere: Mode Of Energy Transfer From The Solar Wind
"Its like something else is heating the atmosphere besides the sun. This discovery is like finding it got hotter when the sun went down," said Larry Lyons, UCLA professor of atmospheric and oceanic sciences and a co-author of the research, which is in press in two companion papers in the Journal of Geophysical Research.

Further down on the article you can read the following

"We all have thought for our entire careers — I learned it as a graduate student — that this energy transfer rate is primarily controlled by the direction of the interplanetary magnetic field," Lyons said. "The closer to southward-pointing the magnetic field is, the stronger the energy transfer rate is, and the stronger the magnetic field is in that direction. If it is both southward and big, the energy transfer rate is even bigger."

However, Lyons, Kim and their colleagues analyzed radar data that measure the strength of the interaction by measuring flows in the ionosphere, the part of Earth's upper atmosphere ionized by solar radiation. The results surprised them.

"Any space physicist, including me, would have said a year ago there could not be substorms when the interplanetary magnetic field was staying northward, but that's wrong," Lyons said. "Generally, it's correct, but when you have a fluctuating interplanetary magnetic field, you can have substorms going off once per hour.

"Heejeong used detailed statistical analysis to prove this phenomenon is real. Convection in the magnetosphere and ionosphere can be strongly driven by these fluctuations, independent of the direction of the interplanetary magnetic field."

Space radiation hits record high

Now, the influx of galactic cosmic rays into our solar system has reached a record high. Measurements by NASA's Advanced Composition Explorer (ACE) spacecraft indicate that cosmic rays are 19 per cent more abundant than any previous level seen since space flight began a half century ago."The space era has so far experienced a time of relatively low cosmic ray activity," says Richard Mewaldt of Caltech, who is a member of the ACE team. "We may now be returning to levels typical of past centuries."

Haven't all of you noticed by now that we are not in a "WARMING" cycle? but rather a CLIMATE CHANGE cycle? One that is natural and fluctuates from cold, to warm, to cold, and warm, and back and forth.

BTW, in case you haven't realized it yet, this research, and these scientists are not pointing towards ghgs, much less CO2, but at some other source, beside the Sun, and which energy input has increased, and has been changing the dynamics of the Solar System.

In the past when some other member, or myself would point this out, certain members would claim we just made this stuff out, or made some such comment, more so because they want to place the blame on mankind, for whatever reason they have, and on anthropogenic CO2.

Some of my posts about NASA searching for the death star,

Not to mention that the so called "cimate experts" have been so losty as to what has been causing Climate change that they had to lie to people and they have been presenting false information.

Most, if not all Climate Change experts do not reallly look at factors from our Solar System and beyond which are the real causes for Climate Change on Earth.

These people have been so delusional that some have even claimed the Sun is not as important as CO2 in Climate Change...

These "experts" as well as the IPCC had to lie through their teeth because they could NEVER prove atmospheric CO2 is the cause of Climate Change as they have claimed.

The IPCC and the "false experts" knew that the claims they hava been making were FALSE.

Glacier scientist: I knew data hadn't been verified

We got it wrong: UN climate change scientists admit error over Himalayan glacier report.

I swear, sometimes I wonder where these "experts" got their masters, bachelors and PhDs...

Many "real scientists" have realized that the IPCC and so called "experts" have been wrong.

A Demonstration that Global Warming Predictions are Based More On Faith than On Science

Here is a document about the effects of atmospheric CO2 and how it has no significant effect on Global temperatures.


Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide
Oregon In stitute of Science and Medicine, 2251 Dick George Road, Cave Junction, Oregon 97523 []

ABSTRACT A review of the research literature concerning the
environmental consequences of increased levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide leads to the conclusion that increases during the 20th and early 21st centuries have produced no deleterious effects upon Earths weather and climate
. Increased carbon dioxide has, however, markedly increased plant growth. Predictions of harmful climatic effects due to future increases in hydrocarbon use and minor green house gases like CO2 do not conform to current experimental knowledge. The environmental effects of rapid expansion of the nuclear and hydrocarbon energy industries are discussed.

There are no experimental data to support the hypothesis that increases in human hydrocarbon use or in atmospheric carbon dioxide
and other greenhouse gases are causing or can be expected to cause
unfavorable changes in global temperatures, weather, or landscape.
There is no reason to limit human production of CO2, CH4, and other
minor greenhouse gases as has been proposed (82,83,97,123).
We also need not worry about environmental calamities even if
the current natural warming trend continues. The Earth has been
much warmer during the past 3,000 years without catastrophic effects. Warmer weather extends growing sea sons and generally improves
the habitability of colder re gions.

As coal, oil, and natural gas are used to feed and lift from poverty
vast numbers of people across the globe, more CO2 will be re leased
into the atmosphere. This will help to maintain and improve the
health, longevity, prosperity, and productivity of all people.
The United States and other countries need to produce more energy, not less. The most practical, economical, and environmentally
sound methods available are hydrocarbon and nuclear technologies.
Human use of coal, oil, and natural gas has not harmfully warmed
the Earth, and the extrapolation of current trends shows that it will
not do so in the foreseeable future. The CO2 produced does, however, accelerate the growth rates of plants and also permits plants to
grow in drier regions. Animal life, which depends upon plants, also
flourishes, and the diversity of plant and animal life is increased.
Human activities are producing part of the rise in CO2 in the atmosphere. Mankind is moving the carbon in coal, oil, and natural gas
from be low ground to the atmosphere, where it is available for conversion into living things. We are living in an in creasingly lush environment of plants and animals as a result of this CO2 increase. Our
children will therefore enjoy an Earth with far more plant and animal
life than that with which we now are blessed.

World's largest science group rejecting man-made climate fears

Here is an example of 650 leading scientists disagreeing with the IPCC, and there are many more.

Many scientists have been also smarter than Jones, Mann et al, and have known the Sun, and other factors in the Earth, the Solar System and outside are the real causes for Climate Change.

Sun not CO2 the culprit by Dr David Ivory, University teacher, Scientist and senior United Nations staff member
Monday, July 19th 2010, 6:26 PM EDT Co2sceptic (Site Admin)

David Ivory argues the variation in energy received from the sun has a much greater effect on global temperature balance than the effect of greenhouse gases.

The scientific and public debate on what causes global warming has been very one-sided.

The claim the so-called greenhouse gases (chiefly the natural biological products, carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide) are the cause of global warming is only a theory.

It is not fact or an unequivocal truth, even though the proponents of the theory would want to claim the science behind their theory is beyond debate and supported by an overwhelming majority of scientists.

The reality is the scientists associated with climate change groupings represent only a small proportion of the total physical and biological scientists around the world, but collectively they have had an inordinately large influence on governments and policy makers.

In addition, they have adopted a condescending tactic to rebut criticism by disparaging or questioning the integrity or knowledge of those who oppose their point of view by labelling them deniers and sceptics and to claim the majority of scientists accept the so-called science of greenhouse gas-induced global warming.

German Scientist: CO2 Not The Cause of Climate Change – Cold Period Is Anticipated
By P Gosselin on 16. November 2010

The European Institute For Climate and Energy (EIKE) released a paper today written by German physicist Dr. Horst Borchert. The paper reveals a clear relation between solar activity and ocean cycles, and thus act as the main climate drivers. Measured data shows no CO2 impact on climate.

Paper as pdf here

Unfortunately, the paper is only in German. But the abstract is in English. Here it is (I made a couple of grammatical corrections for clarity):

It was found that the South Pacific Oscillation (SO) is influenced by solar activity, similar to the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO). Especially during the warming period from 1980 to 2009 the oscillation of solar wind – Index “aa“ – was in good resonance with the delayed South Pacific Oscillation. The same observation was found between the oscillation of cosmic radiation, which is controlled by Forbush– reduction by the magnetic fields of the sun protons of the solar wind and the delayed SO (K=0.8). The consequence of these observations is the postulation that the increase of global temperature in the Southern Hemisphere was caused by solar activity with strong emissions of proton-rays in the Earth ‘s direction during the 22nd and 23rd sunspot-periods, reducing cosmic rays. This led to a reduction of cloudiness, increased solar rays and warming up the lower atmosphere (Svensmark –Effect). As a consequence, dissolved CO2 was continuously emitted by the slowly warming ocean, providing fertilizer for the flora of the world. A relevance of CO2 concerning climate change could not be found. With the end of solar activity in 2006, a cold weather period has also started in the Southern Hemisphere.
In the paper’s conclusion, if I understand correctly, Bochert writes that the southern hemispheric temperature has followed the long-term average of the Southern Oscillation (SO) since 1980. During this warm period, the SO was enhanced by an additional especially strong solar-controlled heat source, which ended with the 23rd cycle.

As a consequence the global temperature of the Southern Hemisphere, like the Northern Hemisphere, shows a stagnation and has a downward trend since about 2009.

As for the real reasons that these so called "climate experts" have been pushing "to fight Climate Change".

Shocking 1991 UN Policy Paper Describes the Exact Purpose and Trajectory of Current Copenhagen Treaty

Obama’s Science Czar John Holdren involved in unwinding “Climategate” scandal

ClimateGate and the Elitist Roots of Global Warming

Global warming is the new religion of First World urban elites

Some other threads I posted showing how geomagnetic changes have cause Climate Changes in the past.

Climate determinism or Geomagnetic determinism?

Some other research that shows our Solar System must be a binary star system

The recently found secular increase in the AU between the planets and the Sun.

Anomalies in the Solar System
Dittus, Hansjoerg
37th COSPAR Scientific Assembly. Held 13-20 July 2008, in Montréal, Canada., p.717
Several observations show unexplained phenomena in our solar system. These observations are e.g. the Pioneer Anomaly, an unexplained constant acceleration of the Pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft, the Flyby Anomaly, an unexplained increase of the velocity of a series of spacecraft after Earth gravity assists, the recently reported increase of the Astronomical Unit defined by the distance of the planets from the Sun by approximately 10 m per century, the quadrupole and octupole anomaly which describes the correlation of the low l contributions of the Cosmic Microwave Background to the orientation of the Solar system. Lacking any explanation until now, these phenomena are still investigated intensively. In my talk I will discuss the present status of those investigations and the attempts to find reasonable explantions.

Secular increase of the astronomical unit and perihelion precessions as tests of the Dvali–Gabadadze–Porrati multi-dimensional braneworld scenario
Lorenzo Iorio JCAP09(2005)006 doi: 10.1088/1475-7516/2005/09/006

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Lorenzo Iorio
Viale Unità di Italia 68, 70125, Bari, Italy
Abstract. An unexpected secular increase of the astronomical unit, the length scale of the Solar System, has recently been reported by three different research groups (Krasinsky and Brumberg, Pitjeva, Standish). The latest JPL measurements amount to 7 ± 2 m cy−1. At present, there are no explanations able to accommodate such an observed phenomenon, either in the realm of classical physics or in the usual four-dimensional framework of the Einsteinian general relativity. The Dvali–Gabadadze–Porrati braneworld scenario, which is a multi-dimensional model of gravity aimed at providing an explanation of the observed cosmic acceleration without dark energy, predicts, among other things, a perihelion secular shift, due to Lue and Starkman, of 5 × 10−4 arcsec cy−1 for all the planets of the Solar System. It yields a variation of about 6 m cy−1 for the Earth–Sun distance which is compatible with the observed rate of change for the astronomical unit. The recently measured corrections to the secular motions of the perihelia of the inner planets of the Solar System are in agreement with the predicted value of the Lue–Starkman effect for Mercury, Mars and, at a slightly worse level, the Earth.

Whatever is causing this secular increase in the AU(distance) between the Sun and the planets has been affecting satellites and even comets which are arriving earlier into the inner Solar System than they should.

6 The increase of the Astronomical Unit

6.1 The observation

From the analysis of radiometric measurements of distances between the Earth and the major planets including observations from Martian orbiters and landers from 1961 to 2003 a secular increase of the Astronomical Unit of approximately 10 m/cy has been reported (36) (see also the article (37) and the discussion therein).

6.2 Search for explanation

Time–dependent gravitational constant and velocity of light This increase cannot be explained by a time–dependent gravitational constant G because the ˙ G/G needed is larger than the restrictions obtained from LLR.

It has also been speculated that a time–dependent change in the velocity of light can be responsible for this effect. Indeed, if the speed of light becomes smaller, than ranging will simulate a drift of distances. However, a inspection of Kepler’s third law
T2 4π2
a3 = GM⊙


shows that, if one replaces the distance a by a ranging time a = ct, then effectively the quotient G/c3 appears. Only this combination of the gravitational constant and the speed of light governs the ratio between the orbit time, in our case the orbit time of the Earth. Consequently, a time–dependent speed of light is equivalent to a time–dependent gravitational constant. Since the latter has been ruled out to be possibly responsible for an increase of the Astronomical Unit, also a time–dependent speed of light has to be ruled out.

Cosmic expansion The influence of cosmic expansion by many orders of magnitude too small, see Sec.9.2. Neither the modification of the gravitational field of the Sun nor the drag of the planetary orbits due to the expansion is big enough to explain this drift.

Clock drift An increase of ranged distances might also be due to a drift of the time scale of the form t → t + αt2 for α > 0. This is of the same form as the time drift needed to account for the Pioneer anomaly. From Kepler’s third law one may ask which α is suitable in order to simulate the increase of the Astronomical Unit. One obtains α ≈ 3 · 10−20 s−1 what is astonishing close to the clock drift needed for a clock drift simulation of the pioneer anomaly, see Eq.(16) and below.
7 The quadrupole and octupule anomaly Recently an anomalous behavior of the low–l contributions to the cosmic microwave background has been reported. It has been shown that (i) there exists an alignment between the quadrupole and octupole with > 99.87% C.L. [38], and (ii) that the quadrupole and octupole are aligned to Solar system ecliptic to > 99% C.L. [39]. No correlation with the galactic plane has been found.

The reason for this is totally unclear. One may speculate that an unknown gravitational field within the Solar system slightly redirects the incoming cosmic microwave radiation (in the similar way as a motion with a certain velocity with respect to the rest frame of the cosmological background redirects the cosmic background radiation and leads to modifications of the dipole and quadrupole parts). Such a redirection should be more pronounced for low–l components of the radiation. It should be possible to calculate the gravitational field needed for such a redirection and then to compare that with the observational data of the Solar system and the other observed anomalies.

8.2 Other anomalies?
There is one further observation which status is rather unclear bit which perhaps may fit into the other observations. This is the observation of the return time of comets: Comets usually come back a few days before they are expected when applying ordinary equations of motion. The delay usually is assigned to the outgassing of these objects. In fact, the delay is used for an estimate of the strength of this outgassing. On the other hand, it has been calculated in (44) that the assumption that starting with 20 AU there is an additional acceleration of the order of the Pioneer anomaly also leads to the effect that comets come back a few days earlier. It is not clear whether this is a serious indications but a further study of the trajectories of comets certainly is worthwhile.

So, even comets are being affected by something which is accelerating them, which is "believed" to be at around 20 AU. This is not happening just to satellites, but it is the first time that i read it is also happening to comets, and now even the planets in the Solar system are being affected, and their distance between them and the Sun is increasing.

Some other research that seems to indicate there is a dead star in our Solar System, which could have planets orbiting it.

Large 'Planet X' May Lurk Beyond Pluto
By Ker Than,LiveScience
Posted: 2008-06-19 17:56:30
Filed Under: Science News

(June 19) - An icy, unknown world might lurk in the distant reaches of our solar system beyond the orbit of Pluto, according to a new computer model.

The hidden world -- thought to be much bigger than Pluto based on the model -- could explain unusual features of the Kuiper Belt, a region of space beyond Neptune littered with icy and rocky bodies. Its existence would satisfy the long-held hopes and hypotheses for a "Planet X" envisioned by scientists and sci-fi buffs alike.

"Although the search for a distant planet in the solar system is old, it is far from over," said study team member Patryk Lykawka of Kobe University in Japan.

The model, created by Lykawka and Kobe University colleague Tadashi Mukai, is detailed in a recent issue of Astrophysical Journal.

If the new world is confirmed, it would not be technically a planet. Under a controversial new definition adopted by the International Astronomical Union (IAU) last week, it would instead be the largest known "plutoid."

The Kuiper Belt contains many peculiar features that cant be explained by standard solar system models. One is the highly irregular orbits of some of the belts members.

The most famous is Sedna, a rocky object located three times farther from the sun than Pluto. Sedna takes 12,000 years to travel once around the Sun, and its orbit ranges from 80 to 100 astronomical units (AU). One AU is equal to the distance between the Earth and the Sun.

Possible Planet X

SAO/NASA Astrophysics Data System (ADS)
Title: The location of Planet X
Authors: Harrington, R. S.
Journal: Astronomical Journal (ISSN 0004-6256), vol. 96, Oct. 1988, p. 1476-1478.
Bibliographic Code: 1988AJ.....96.1476H

Arguments for the presence of a distant large undiscovered Solar system planet

Murray, J. B.
Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, Volume 309, Issue 1, pp. 31-34.

Aphelion distances of long-period comets show a slight excess around 30000 to 50000au from the Sun. Positions of cometary aphelia within these distance limits are aligned along a great circle inclined to both the ecliptic and the Galactic plane. This paper examines one of the possible explanations for this non-random clustering: that it is due to orbital perturbations by an undiscovered object orbiting within the above-mentioned distances. A model consistent with the observations gives a retrograde orbit (inclination 120 deg) for the object with a longitude of the ascending node at 77 deg+/-13 deg, a period of 5.8x10^6 yr and a radius of 32000au. The same model gives a present position for the undiscovered object of RA 20^h 35^m, Dec.+5 deg, with an error ellipse semimajor axis of 14 deg and a semiminor axis of 7 deg. The magnitude is likely to be fainter than 23. Such a distant object would almost certainly not remain bound for the age of the Solar system, and recent capture into the present orbit, although also of low probability, remains the least unlikely origin for this hypothetical planet.
DOI: 10.1046/j.1365-8711.1999.02806.x

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 04:46 PM
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

Wow lots of great content there! Thankyou for contributing to the thread!
All that will take me a while to read through, I will get back to you with my thoughts on it all once I've finished.

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 05:00 PM
reply to post by rajaten

np, Let's hope more people come to realize that what happens to the Solar System, and even outside our Solar System affects us as well as Earth's climate.

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 05:03 PM
Excellent thread!! You, rajaten are the cutest thing everrrrrr!


posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 05:05 PM
i can only say one thing..


posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 05:25 PM
reply to post by JayXBraun

No, wrong terminology...

It is "Raise shields!!"

"Shields at maximum, Captain."

"Very well....steady as she goes.....". The commander sits in his chair, supremely aware that every movement he makes is being scrutinized, by the bridge crew. He must display a continued outward aura of confidence, regardless of any uncertainty that might swirl in his mind.....testing his resolve, and his decisions.....
edit on 25 November 2010 by weedwhacker because: (no reason given)

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 05:53 PM
Wow.... way more serious then my add on..
Let's see the results of the new after burner cosmic dust before we jump to conclusions. They ARE going to share the results right? Keep in mind.. this is old data collected in 2008..No revealing new profound evidence of any thing here.

I meant asteroid dust.. my bad.. VgnVCM1000000a35010aRCRD We WILL get the results right?

Stayin in Tahoe...
We wear sunblock up here anyway.

AND we know how to grow Hydroponics. Just sayin.

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 06:26 PM
There is no doubt in my mind what so ever that this isnt true.
Pretty soon our only chance of survival will be to pack and go to mars which will take on atmospheric changes like the melting of the ice caps and oceans roaring through the red valleys.

WHEN this passed, GREAT devistation.
No one can hide....but to run is a different story....God told me to KEEP RUNNING.

just like forrest

on a serious note.

Consider me lieing?!?
It doesnt matter to me!!!!!!!!!!
I do not remember the trip we took but i remember waking up in a ship and it was landed on this port a great big circle with lights all around it.
as i stepped out i was greeted by the man in my dreams.
he told me to look up and so i did.
there was a giant gold colored dome covering the entire city we stood in.
through the glass like dome you could see the most amazing aura of lights blazing from a hole in the sky like an electrical storm. they told me they needed gold to rebuild the sky....and they would one day return to earth for the harvest...
they come take us and gold away to their planet to help them at their home...we can live and breath just fine there.
there is many peopl ethere who look like us...they have all a violet pale skin texture and beautiful big glazing eyes. they almost look like the elves in the movie the lord of the rings... their hair is like black silk and it moves like seaweed like its also a living thing. they spoke with their minds and they all are caring and loving.
The reason they leave us is to grow as a species ourselves....and they leave the guardians here to protect us.
They have special devices within earth to help us in time of need.
and if all else fails they will take 1/4 our polulation to mars to live for 40 -80 years.

***24 days before the dream i had a vision while meditating.....
it was of two beings flying in a craft dressed in grey sparkling suits with grid/graph like lines running along the whole entired suit face and all, only the eyes appear through....they told me they would come and show me and it would take 24 days to reach me from where they are.***

this happend to me in 2005.
another thing is...there was already many humans living there....there always has been.
and without the gold they will have to return to earth to make it their home. they said they already have understandings with our governments and they are very ignorant for power and greed.
they said they only trade us stupid technologies for fear we will destroy ourselves in exchange for gold. they dont tell them what its for. just they came for gold.

Believe what you guys want....but ive never had anything like this happen to me before in my entire life...

i found out that my mother when she was around 21 of age, a light lit in her room blasting everything with golden light, she said it was so bright she could barely see...she said a being came through this portal/ hole of light and spoke to her...said its okay..she said she freaked out and ran out of the room. she was in the middle of praying to God when this happend....
she doesnt really talk about this to anyone, i recently found out a few years back and never put two and two together.

I AM NOT A HIPPY TREE HUGER,although i play guitar on the regular.

This is freedom of information and i feel now is the time to share this with the people on here.
Pretty soon the government wont be able to hide the truth from WE THE PEOPLE no more.


posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 08:46 PM
Well all the info is very interesting. Im a very ignorant person when it comes to measure time.Are we measuring time in years,decades,centuries,thousands,millions of years. BUT how did the human race started this????????BASED ON WHAT??????Carbono--14?? star alignments???? the MAYA??? the Egyptians???the Bible?/?? how sure we are we have the rigth measure of time????why other countries have different way of measure??? example the chinese culture.; What if we are wrong ????

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 08:53 PM
The Great Year
If you have about 45 minutes, here is a well made production that does very well to explain the procession of the equinox and our sun being part of a binary system. Narrated by James Earle Jones.

The Great Year

Very good thread, S&F

posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 03:17 AM
reply to post by RedPill

Very interesting video. Makes a lot of sense to me.

posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 03:29 AM

Originally posted by C21H30O2I
reply to post by rajaten

It's not, So bad. 25k a person. 5k down.
Heres the website Cheesy music in their video though

Wow thats cheap! I'd get in there asap. It would suck if you are stuck underground with a bunch of
assholes you didnt know though. lol

posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 03:35 AM

Originally posted by jdub297

Originally posted by rajaten
reply to post by metalholic

Of course they wouldnt tell us. They want to reduce the world population any way they can. The more ignorant people are, the more people will die. This equals less mouths to feed or foreign armies to worry about.

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If this is true, you should be veerrry careful.

What is that supposed to mean??

If people are ignorant of how to survive and what may be coming, they will find it much harder to adapt and live through whatever may be coming. Dont you understand that?

posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 03:40 AM

Originally posted by sonia74
reply to post by rajaten

Great post, great links and articles too. However my anxiety level has shot through the roof

There is so much data and information through out the net regarding planet x, planet Nibru etc. It's hard to keep up with them. I have to say this is one of the most intelligently written posts I have read to date.

Thankyou for your compliments
I find it hard to follow everything too and filter out what is disinfo. I want to learn as much as I can before obama hits that internet kill switch haha

posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 03:46 AM

Originally posted by Git_r_dun
reply to post by rajaten

you are a total genius!!! your posts are always full of great info.. keep it up

You're too kind

posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 03:49 AM
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

Great work putting all that together electric! After going through all that, I think I can summarise it all with this:

posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 03:59 AM
reply to post by kiliker30

Wow amazing vision and story. If any of that is true, its very encouraging.

You should start your own new thread with that info in the dreams & predictions forum.
If its true, it might be important other people know about it.

posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 04:02 AM

Originally posted by rocha123
Well all the info is very interesting. Im a very ignorant person when it comes to measure time.Are we measuring time in years,decades,centuries,thousands,millions of years. BUT how did the human race started this????????BASED ON WHAT??????Carbono--14?? star alignments???? the MAYA??? the Egyptians???the Bible?/?? how sure we are we have the rigth measure of time????why other countries have different way of measure??? example the chinese culture.; What if we are wrong ????

This comment makes my brain hurt. lol

Who knows, the only way in is the only way out? Time is relative?

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posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 04:36 AM
reply to post by rajaten

Hey rajaten, I always look forwards to reading your threads, keep up the good work.

I think the earths cyclical change is upon us, as for the precise method of destruction im not certain, but i can feel it coming. I suppose if somebody had never seen an autum before it would be a pretty shocking sight seeing all the trees look like they're dying, but a wise one could be rest assured spring would return again and that death is not the end.

The old world will be destroyed, and the new shall be born.

May I ask you, do you think its more important to prepare physically or spiritually?
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posted on Nov, 26 2010 @ 04:44 AM
reply to post by The Quiet Storm

Pre buried corpse disposal performed by the masses willingly,
sounds awesome.

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