I actually agree with the action banning this drink combo., because it's dumb, and dangerous. If you want to mix the two elements yourself, then
fine, but selling it en masse as a specific label is beyond idiotic.
"FDA Bans Caffeine In Alcoholic Beverages?", page 29
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reply posted on 21-11-2010 @ 04:54 PM by Brotherman
They already banned these drinks in a college campus near where I live and I know that the drink referenced in the article was crazy popular there and
at the school I go to.
LVC bans energy drinks and alcohol
LVC bans energy drinks and alcohol
Lebanon Valley College has banned alcoholic energy drinks after a visitor got sick drinking from drinking Four Loko on campus.
reply posted on 22-11-2010 @ 02:54 PM by Brood
reply to post by saltheart foamfollower
The FDA beat you to it. O3 (ozone) is not allowed to be issued as a cure for cancer even though it instantly provokes apoptosis and can kill most cancers with minimal effects on your body -- it's natural and the FDA cannot patent it. Instead the FDA offers radiation and medication that has thousands of side effects to make them dependent on drugs more drugs for more symptoms...
The FDA beat you to it. O3 (ozone) is not allowed to be issued as a cure for cancer even though it instantly provokes apoptosis and can kill most cancers with minimal effects on your body -- it's natural and the FDA cannot patent it. Instead the FDA offers radiation and medication that has thousands of side effects to make them dependent on drugs more drugs for more symptoms...
reply posted on 23-11-2010 @ 05:10 PM by saltheart foamfollower
reply to post by Brood
You have to be INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is no cure or anything that can be done in response to you assertions except to arrest you. That would be the best thing in all regards.
If anyone attempts to subvert any approved procedures, they should be shot on site!
Sarcasm of course.
You have to be INSANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is no cure or anything that can be done in response to you assertions except to arrest you. That would be the best thing in all regards.
If anyone attempts to subvert any approved procedures, they should be shot on site!
Sarcasm of course.
reply posted on 1-12-2010 @ 02:27 PM by DINSTAAR
reply to post by TheAgentNineteen
Utilizing the use of force against a producer of a beverage (in which all chemicals are legal) because the drinking of that beverage is stupid..... is stupid.
By this logic, anything that can harm oneself is an act of stupidity and acts of stupidity need to be banned.
I guess driving faster than 35 miles per hour should be banned too. Maybe driving altogether. Also, we need to ban cigarettes because they are dangerous too (and I thought they were soooo healthy).
In fact, to make sure we are all safe, we need to ban leaving the house. Its dangerous outside, and you would be stupid to go out there and stupid things need to be banned.
The real stupidity about this action by the FDA is that both Sparks and Tilt are not mentioned at all. I wonder.... are these owned by MillerCoors and Inbev?
If you answered no, you are stupid and should be banned.
I actually agree with the action banning this drink combo., because it's dumb, and dangerous. If you want to mix the two elements yourself, then fine, but selling it en masse as a specific label is beyond idiotic.
Utilizing the use of force against a producer of a beverage (in which all chemicals are legal) because the drinking of that beverage is stupid..... is stupid.
By this logic, anything that can harm oneself is an act of stupidity and acts of stupidity need to be banned.
I guess driving faster than 35 miles per hour should be banned too. Maybe driving altogether. Also, we need to ban cigarettes because they are dangerous too (and I thought they were soooo healthy).
In fact, to make sure we are all safe, we need to ban leaving the house. Its dangerous outside, and you would be stupid to go out there and stupid things need to be banned.
The real stupidity about this action by the FDA is that both Sparks and Tilt are not mentioned at all. I wonder.... are these owned by MillerCoors and Inbev?
If you answered no, you are stupid and should be banned.
reply posted on 1-12-2010 @ 03:29 PM by aivlas
Originally posted by DINSTAAR
The real stupidity about this action by the FDA is that both Sparks and Tilt are not mentioned at all. I wonder.... are these owned by MillerCoors and Inbev?
If you answered no, you are stupid and should be banned.
This might have something to do with that, is from 2008
MillerCoors LLC agreed to stop producing and selling caffeinated-alcoholic drinks, under a settlement with more than a dozen state attorneys general. The beer giant had come under fire from the states as well as several consumer-advocacy groups, for allegedly marketing its top-selling Sparks brand so that it appealed to underage consumers. Critics also complained that the drinks raised potential health risks by masking feelings of drunkenness. "Attorneys general from around the country are gravely concerned about premixed alcoholic energy drinks," Maine Attorney General Steve Rowe said in prepared remarks. "They're popular with ...
Source = online.wsj.com...
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reply posted on 1-12-2010 @ 03:46 PM by DINSTAAR
reply to post by aivlas
Good catch. I did not know that.
My bad.
After some reading though, it is interesting that this was accomplished by a private watchdog group and not the Feds.
I also think it is interesting that they admit that it "masks feelings of drunkeness". I know that to be utterly false.
Breakdown
Being drunk, a feeling one gets when alcohol is consumed, is itself a feeling. If caffiene masks this feeling, then the being drunk itself is called into question. This almost seems to imply that if your BAC is .13 but you just downed 8 expressos, the feelings of being drunk(a feeling itself) are gone, thus, you are nit drunk.
This is biologically impossible. The word usage that they employ is in question.
Good catch. I did not know that.
My bad.
After some reading though, it is interesting that this was accomplished by a private watchdog group and not the Feds.
I also think it is interesting that they admit that it "masks feelings of drunkeness". I know that to be utterly false.
Breakdown
Being drunk, a feeling one gets when alcohol is consumed, is itself a feeling. If caffiene masks this feeling, then the being drunk itself is called into question. This almost seems to imply that if your BAC is .13 but you just downed 8 expressos, the feelings of being drunk(a feeling itself) are gone, thus, you are nit drunk.
This is biologically impossible. The word usage that they employ is in question.
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