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Originally posted by Good Intentions
Also, the whole "well alcohol isn't sold to teens" is such a childish argument. Seriously, if teens couldn't get alcohol, underage drinking would not be an issue, nor a term that could exist. You guys all know damn well college and high school parties aren't fiction.
Originally posted by Fangula
Originally posted by Good Intentions
Also, the whole "well alcohol isn't sold to teens" is such a childish argument. Seriously, if teens couldn't get alcohol, underage drinking would not be an issue, nor a term that could exist. You guys all know damn well college and high school parties aren't fiction.
It's not a childish argument. Obviously, alcohol is sold to teens. However, using that as an argument to ban Four Loko makes absolutely no sense. If you're going to argue that way, then be consistent and just admit that you think alcohol in general should be illegal. Think about it. If kids are going to drink, banning Four Loko isn't going to stop them. Seriously, what are you thinking, you silly silly goose on a caboose with some Four Loko juice?
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P.S. Attention All Fangulites: another btoborg has been spotted.edit on 17-11-2010 by Fangula because: (no reason given)edit on 17-11-2010 by Fangula because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Styki
We must note that redbull and vodka are sold separately and can be used relatively safely individually.
I will say again, everyone who is outraged by this is obviously against the FDA doing their job. This is their job whether you agree with it or not.
These beverages are over the top and the companies who sell them should consider toning them down.edit on 17-11-2010 by Styki because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Good Intentions
Did you just call me a bot? lol!
...anway, no, i dont think alcohol in general should be illegal. I'm talking about the high ratio of caffiene to alcohol in drinks that kids have no idea is bad for you, should be banned.
I don't know where you interpreted my argument as implying teens are going to stop drinkin alcohol.
That's not the issue here, the issue is the combination of alcohol and caffiene that is extremely dangerous considering most teens don't stop at one drink.
Kids understand what alcohol is, how it effects you, much more than they understand these drinks.
And that's exactly why their targeted at teens, because they have no idea how dangerous it is. I'm sure that your gonna suggest i meant alcohol should be banned though.
BTW I am 19 so I can tell you from my experiecne, people think this drink is no different than regular alcohol, which is far from the truth. I can also tell you that most my age have no understanding of the scientific basis behind this ban.
I have read through about 10 pages of this thread and most people who disagree with banning this beverages don't have a huge issue with the beverages being banned; they have a problem with the Food and Drug Administration doing their job.
Originally posted by mnemeth1
I have read through about 10 pages of this thread and most people who disagree with banning this beverages don't have a huge issue with the beverages being banned; they have a problem with the Food and Drug Administration doing their job.
god damn right
It is the Congress's job to write law, not the executive branch.
And that ability to write law must fall within the prescribed 18 points declared in the US Constitution.
The federal government absolutely ZERO - ZIP - NADA - authority to regulate what we consume or produce.
Originally posted by GTOWarrior
I actually think this is a good idea. Young people cannot discern or control drinking habits as much as an experienced drinker. Therefore, because of the risk of mixing alcohol and caffeine and the effects it has on the body physically, it is in the best interests of the general public. No different than adding coc aine to beer. It is a dangerous combo, and can cause heart problems, and caffeine overdose. As for adding it to other foods, I am not sure of the reason of banning that.
I tried red bull and vodka many years ago before they started manufacturing them together, and I distinctly remember that experience. I told my friends I would never in my life try it again. They thought I was kidding. One person knows what it did to me, and I won't be talking about that here.
Why would you want to put other people at risk from drivers drunk on this dangerous combo, or wigged out clubbers not even conscious of the people around them?
Not everything in the world is a conspiracy, and not every case of imposing limitations is because they are trying to strip our freedoms.
Yeah, man... you're right, cuz like... anyone who is outraged about things like governments like killing innocent people and stuff... like... they're just doing their job, you know? So like, if you're against that, then like... you're like just against the government like doing their job and stuff, like you know what I mean, man?
Originally posted by TailoredVagabond
reply to post by mnemeth1
Vodka RedBull F@#%s with your heart - and so they should ban it. In fact, alcohol and caffeine in any form, when mixd will both try to have the opposite effect from each other on your heart - prolonged drinking will create long-term damage. You can't refute that.
I hope they do it here in the UKm because we have a huge drinking culure where people are too ignorant to care. Now, you may say "it's not for the government to tell me what I can/caan't put in my own body" - but when that freedom later translates into tens of thousands of pounds being (and the rest) eaten up by the NHS, when you were too stupid to care before, shouldn't be allowed. It's like fat people being given gastric band operations free because they "suffer" frm obesity.
They banned super-size meals, which was a good thing. This is, too.
I'm not for adding NEW chemicals, not at all, but red Bull was banned in France due the the Taurine content, and rightly so. It should be banned