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Originally posted by Soldier of God
reply to post by Neo Christian Mystic
What is there to disprove? You don't believe any of my beliefs so why do you think I should care about yours?
Why don't you PROVE WITHOUT DOUBT that what you wrote is the truth???
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
Can't atleast ONE person look through my five concerns and try to disprove it. Or don't you dare for some stupid reason?
Jesjuah DIED ONCE -- in BAPTISM. And he is still with us today (though a bit put back by his beloveds' sacrament -- the Truth and his enemies story that he suffered the Second Death?)..........
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
Can't atleast ONE person look through my five concerns and try to disprove it. Or don't you dare for some stupid reason?
Well, not to put too fine a point on it, but you've provided nothing other than idle speculation. There's nothing in your five points that bears a whole lot of scrutiny, so you've proven nothing, and so nothing needs to be disproven.
Jesjuah DIED ONCE -- in BAPTISM. And he is still with us today (though a bit put back by his beloveds' sacrament -- the Truth and his enemies story that he suffered the Second Death?)..........
Yes, see, you've actually got this backwards. We died, in Adam, through our first birth. We are reborn, in Christ, through baptism. John's baptism was a ritual Jewish cleansing, not the same thing as a Christian baptism. You'll note that John ran afoul of Herod (and his wife) for his denouncement of Herod's marriage -- he was respected and somewhat feared by the Jewish religious authorities, something that would not have happened if he was acting counter to Judaic law.
You don't die in baptism, John's or otherwise.
Originally posted by adjensen
Well, not to put too fine a point on it, but you've provided nothing other than idle speculation.
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
Why did Jesjuah kill himself, and why did God put him to death?
Why are all Christians accepting God's supposed murder of his own son and how can anyone sleep while still believing Jesjuah (or your "Jesus"--) allowed himself to be murdered in atonement for your bloody and godforsaken sins?
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
reply to post by Soldier of God
Which is a typical example of why this place donot allow oneliners. You curb up to show the better man's reply saying "yeah" "right on" or whatever. Work on my five points instead of making your pastorian-getting-the-hold-of-it kinda way, trying to support the usual circular reasoning we all know was the base of Origen's theology, still taught by people calling themselves scientists today. Sorry, you don't get any points by doing such.
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
All my five points are supported by scripture. Still noone has been able to refute my five points. Why is it so that nearly all aspects surrounding the crucifixion all indicates that Jesjuah didn't die, but was saved by the Greatest Love? Showing your head's off won't show anything other than what it might look like....
#1 According to tradition Jesjuah was long haired and heavily bearded and used to walk in a rather extravagant linen or hemp robe woven in one single piece, so it would be relatively easy to change his initial appearance, through cutting his hair and beard and dressing him up in new clothes, perhaps even the robe of the gardener who worked around the given tomb, resulting in how Mary Magdalene believed he was the gardener, and how his disciples later didn't recognise him straight away but needed time to understand it was in fact Jesjuah, their lord who appeared in front of them after the tomb was found empty.
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
Why did Jesjuah kill himself, and why did God put him to death?
Why do you keep asking me this, when I've answered you and you just don't like the answer?
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
Why did Jesjuah kill himself, and why did God put him to death?
Why do you keep asking me this, when I've answered you and you just don't like the answer?
You still have not answered me. You have provided the colpit of what theology says about the thing. You still have not given as much as a hint of what you yourself believe.
Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
Didn't someone just say that Jesus got killed by a spear to his side
Originally posted by adjensen
I've flat out said EXACTLY what I believe.