Originally posted by amc621
reply to post by Soldier of God
I see. So we sinned against God, therefore God had to send Jesus to earth. Jesus suffered because we sinned.
My question is this, if God is a good, forgiving and loving God. Wouldn't God just forgiven us for our sins instead of making Jesus suffer. I don't
see how that is a lesson learned.
It is not about learning a lesson -- it is about atonement.
First, I hope that you recognize that Christians believe that Christ IS God. God didn't send some random guy named Jesus to suffer and die, he sent
himself. If you don't get that, then you won't understand much about Christianity.
Secondly, St. Anselm demonstrated it this way. The nature of a crime is related to whom it is committed against, and the debt required to result in
satisfaction is commensurate with that. For example, treason against a king is a worse crime than betraying a peasant (appropriate for Anselm's
times) or the way that we see a man beating a child to be a worse crime than a man beating his wife, which is a worse crime than a man beating his
In the case of sin, we have committed a crime against an infinite being, God, resulting in a debt which is infinite. For God to have satisfaction, he
can't simply "wave it off" as you imply, because this would be simply acquiescing to evil, saying that our actions don't matter. But we have an
infinite debt, one that we can never possibly pay, unless the one who is also infinite pays the debt for us.
And so that's what he did. He, God, suffered for our sins, but, for those who accept this sacrifice, our infinite debt for a lifetime of sin has