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Originally posted by loam
reply to post by centurion1211
Originally posted by centurion1211
Multi-culturalism IS a failure in the U.S. as well.
Multi-ethnicity is a good thing. helping build a country with new blood.
I think you have expressed this in a way I can mostly agree with.
They really are two different things, aren't they?
Originally posted by centurion1211
Multi-culturalism IS a failure in the U.S. as well.
Multi-ethnicity is a good thing. helping build a country with new blood.
Multi-culturalism tears a country apart when immigrants won't assimilate.
Originally posted by The Revenant
What is happening to us in Europe? Have we forgotten the lessons of the past? Millions of us died, from all corners of the globe, so that the lessons learnt from the collapse of fascism could be indellibly printed upon our minds for all time.
We cannot allow the Jewish question to become the Islamic question - let alone the Islamic Solution.
Islam should be welcome wherever and whenever. It should be allowed to co-exist and cohabit in any given free and democratic society. Anything less is unjust, and fascist.
I'm sure that Angela Merkel is just voicing the opinion that many normal Germans / Europeans / non-Muslim western citizens are thinking. But to do so reveals a shadow - a shadow that we thought had died in a bunker long ago. Can this debate be completed without the shadow coalescing into something more? Or are we condemned to reliving the lives of our ancestors, relearning their lessons - at the cost of blood, progress and humanity?
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Originally posted by centurion1211
Multi-culturalism IS a failure in the U.S. as well.
Multi-ethnicity is a good thing. helping build a country with new blood.
Multi-culturalism tears a country apart when immigrants won't assimilate.
Not only the lack of a desire to assimilate but requiring the new host country to follow and obey their old countries laws.
Originally posted by Miraj
reply to post by The Revenant
I think that perhaps it is not a question of Islam.. But where the Islamic people are coming from. A german born person who was born to islam or converted is probably not a concern.. But a large group of islamic people from other countries perhaps will create turmoil. It is a clash of the cultures, they should do their best to assimilate without forgetting their heritage. And it can be done, most Americans come from a very huge variation of Ancestry and we do fairly well in the multicultural department.
Originally posted by Mr. D
seeing that The United States of America was built by the poor, outcast
and undesireables of other countries we are in no position to be knocking legal immigrants.
Originally posted by Mr. D
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Originally posted by centurion1211
Multi-culturalism IS a failure in the U.S. as well.
Multi-ethnicity is a good thing. helping build a country with new blood.
Multi-culturalism tears a country apart when immigrants won't assimilate.
No seriously, there is nothing
wrong with people keeping their cultural heritage, why is that so difficult for some people to
understand?
Nothing wrong with that, of course.
But multi-culturalism means they NEVER give up ANY of their cultural heritage to try and bcome part of their new home.
What's difficult to understand is if they love it so much, why are they not still there?
Anyway, glad the Germans have finally figured it out. Hope the rest of the civilized world is not far behind.edit on 10/16/2010 by centurion1211 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Not only the lack of a desire to assimilate but requiring the new host country to follow and obey their old countries laws.
Originally posted by SheeplFlavoredAgain
The comments in the article remind me of what is said about Hispanic immigrants in the USA. I think the problem has less to do with religion specifically and more to do with the current era of immigrants refusing to change their ways to accommodate their new countries and instead expecting everything to be changed to accommodate their needs. And to me that all just fits in with the entitlement generation and "me first" attitude that seems to have sneaked in uniformly into every member of every classification you can think of.
Where I live a lot of the Hispanic immigrants are starting to make learning English a priority because they see it as a key to moving up socially and economically. We have so much demand for English teachers now that there is a huge waiting list of students for the few teachers available. And we are seeing once you break down this language barrier things start falling into place. Somehow all countries must get the message across that all immigrants must at least try to learn the language of their host country. Verbal communication is the first step toward breaking down other cultural barriers. I see this also as a child of an immigrant for whom English is not the first language. It is also basic common sense.
Originally posted by Intelearthling
I'm about so tired of politcal correctness, I think I'll go thr....Blaaaaaaah!
One in ten Germans would like to see a Führer in power; they see dictatorship as the best option for the country, a survey has revealed.
According to a social study conducted by the Friedrich Ebert Stiftung, the longing for a strong hand is still common among Germans.
rt.com...
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Originally posted by Mr. D
seeing that The United States of America was built by the poor, outcast
and undesireables of other countries we are in no position to be knocking legal immigrants.
That's exactly why I can say what I have. The US has seen both sides of this issue and we are seeing more and more of the negative aspects compared to previous waves of various immigrant nationalities/cultures which freely chose to be acclimated and or assimilated as an "American" speaking of which, the national language is "English" Not Spanish, Cantonese, Laotian or Farsey. etc etc etc.
Simply because an immigrant adopts the host countries culture doesn't mean they need to lose their heritage or traditions. Nor does it mean they can force upon others their former country's laws and traditions simply because they refuse and or are too lazy to adapt.edit on 16-10-2010 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by Exuberant1
10% does seem rather high of a % though...