Merkel says German multicultural society has failed

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posted on Oct, 16 2010 @ 11:37 PM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1
That's what I was thinking.
This is just the 10 percent who are brave enough to admit it...

It is safe to say that Germany has its balls back.


It was an opinion poll. But I wouldn't say they have their testicular fortitude back at least not while they are so buried in the estrogen drenched EU.




posted on Oct, 16 2010 @ 11:39 PM
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That's insane! The scariest part is that Germany is ruled by two parties so the influence of such extremism cannot be pushed down by voting for minority parties with no chance of governing but rather this will influence and sneak its way into the two parties and thus become even more popular. The highly Nationalistic, Ethnocentric and Pan-Germanic ideas have long influenced German society until the 1960's when it mostly vanished until now.

There's something scary about Germany, it is just so powerful yet we cannot explain why. Each time they fought a world war they lost, but they alone were powerful enough to almost take down the whole world. How can such a small amount of people with relatively little colonialism and have little ethnic diversity able to be so powerful? It just boggles my mind.
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posted on Oct, 16 2010 @ 11:46 PM
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The problem Europeans and multi-culturalism is that they are too politically correct. It is literally a crime to say something "racist" in many parts of Europe. This forces legitimate concerns people have to simmer below the surface rather than get aired out in public debate. These legitimate concerns ferment into vile racism.

This political correctness allows minorities to run around and do whatever they please without getting criticized, which in effect holds them to a lower standard. For example, a White European man who does not hire enough women at his firm is "sexist" and deserves harsh criticism. A Muslim man who beats his wife and does not let her leave the house without a burqa is simply following his culture, and it is "racist" to criticize him or judge him for what he does.



posted on Oct, 16 2010 @ 11:48 PM
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Am I completely misunderstanding you or do you really think it's brave and indicative of guts to say they want a Hitler to solve their problems?

Now I agree it takes balls to acknowledge there is a problem and they are mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. But I think it is fearful and cowardly to propose that a new fascist dictator should handle this mess. It's intellectually lazy as well. A poor man's deus ex machina solution. One man didn't get them into this mess and one man isn't going to pull them out of it, at least not without extracting a demon's price for it the way Hitler did. Now if I'm misreading you I apologize. It is late and I'm unwinding for the night.



posted on Oct, 16 2010 @ 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
But I wouldn't say they have their testicular fortitude back at least not while they are so buried in the estrogen drenched EU.


In such company the Germans will look even more Badass - even if they get just a little nationalistic.

If I were the new German Leader I would begin promotion of nationalism and begin re-armament along with the compromising of the EU hierarchy as part of the massive intelligence operation conducted against them.

Germany has too long stood Idly by while foreign forces destroy her.


....Good thing I'm not Germany.



posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by Misoir
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There's something scary about Germany, it is just so powerful yet we cannot explain why.


After three generations of anti-German propaganda, it has practically become a subconscious fear.

But the world has no reason to fear a strong Germany.


*I cannot say the same for Israel though. A nationalist Germany which understands that no generation should pay for the sins of the last, that might worry the Israelis. (e.g. There'll be no more guilting Germans into giving freebies)

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posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 12:09 AM
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All righty then. I guess that clears everything up for me. I'll just be moving along now. I'm a quarter German myself. I don't drink much but i make an exception for German beer and I love the food. But there must be something in it that gives people something besides gas. Maybe it is the gas. Can indigestion make people warlike?



posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 12:16 AM
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So, you'd advocate another Holocaust? Is that what you're saying?

This is GERMANY complaining about immigration. Remember what happened the last time they did that? It was for that reason that my grandfather served his country, to ensure that fascism would never rise once again!



posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 12:18 AM
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Let the unwashed masses decide.

They always seem to be the ones doing the fighting,bleeding,and dying,.....

Merkel is one of the washed minority,who the F is she to decide anyway?.

Either way.

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posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 12:20 AM
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Why are you pretending that he is advocating another Holocaust?



posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 12:30 AM
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Why do you people keep stuttering about..."Another Holocaust"/?????????

It's just human nature,50 years from now someone will be blabbering about the "Iraqi Holocaust".

Do you realize how many people died during WWII?,it was way,way more than a measly 6 million.

Nobody lives long enough,who is in such a position, to avoid making the same mistakes over and over and over again.

Until there is a basic rejection of politics,and lack of support for any government as it exist now...

Nothing will ever change.



posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 12:47 AM
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I find it interesting that you bring religion into the mix when nothing in the article did. For many, many years the world has been ' tolerant' of Islam to the point that Islam had, and would have, gone unnoticed as most other mainstream religions have.
That is aside from a few 'little' incidents Islam seemed to have occurred upon itself stemming from their very own intolerance(s). So by your very own definition, the world should be tolerant of there murderess intolerance? By your very definition the 60,000 births in Texas last year ALONE by illegals is a Catholic, not a boarders problem. And by your bringing religion into the article, the social services those anchor babies soak up is now a Catholic issue, not a boarders issue? Could it not be the same the world over?
You may give to charity, but I can promise that you personally, do not give to the point of your very own demise. But yet you seem to expect countries to do just that. Remember cities, counties, states and countries have no money...but that they take from that produce.
You speak of nationalism, China seems to be doing fairly well these days. Have you ever heard of a little wall the built some time ago?
Think there might be a connection to boarders, language and culture; especially while a whole lot of multicultural countries are on the decline and China is on the rise?

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posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 12:58 AM
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She has failed as a human.

Number of German children killed by terrorists - 0
Number of middle eastern children killed by coillition forces - tens of thousands

Who really has failed to extend the hand of multiculturalism? Muslims or westerners? Kinda obvious there.

We all have to get along and live peacefully, the world will have over 9 billion people in 2050, what are you all going to do with your NATIONALISM then?

The issue of multiculturalism is mute, we have planes, boats, international ties with manufacturing and food cultures will always meet and clash, but it is the weaker of us which look to national pride instead of neighborly love.

It is almost as if the majority of People in this thread suggest that people should stick to their own country and not travel. Ban everyone from entering America that isn't American, or no non Germans in Germany... Really. If I want to live in holland I will, same with any other country, that's of course if you crazy nationalists allow it.

And if it falls back on to the old "all Muslims are terrorists" (good ol' bill orielly's common form of American nationalism) then all American soldiers love killing innocent children and keeping bodies parts as trophies, all African men are rapists, all Aussies are alchoholics ect.

Over 1 million innocent civilians are dead and you people don't blink an eye, how many more need to die to satisfy your thirst for blood in guise of nationalism?

This is just a form of German propaganda.



posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 01:23 AM
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Quote "Who really has failed to extend the hand of multiculturalism? Muslims or westerners? Kinda obvious there. "
Really.....I would be happy to help fund a ticket for you and your girlfriend to soak up some sun and have some beers on the beach in Saudi!



posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 01:24 AM
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I didn't mean that Germany scares me, I love Germany. I guess I worded it wrong. What I meant was that they are such a powerful and strong willed people that if they did tap into that power for the wrong reasons then I would be scared of what they could do. Pretty much sounds a lot different when I elaborated.

I am glad Germany is raising its head up again, for too long Germans were taught by propaganda to feel a sense of disdain towards their country, instead of believing it to be the most powerful and industrious society in the world I’m surprised they still call themselves German after what they went through by Western propaganda. Everyone knows the power of the Germanic peoples, I don't think the elite are very happy about these turn of events in German national feeling.



posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 01:35 AM
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Hopefully we'll get that alien invasion underway sometime soon.
Let them show the world what a foreigner really looks like.


Multi-culturalism isn't dead. Irrationality and ignorance are at an all-time high.

"Utterly failed"...
More like the leadership has failed.
No good questions. No good answers.

The whole anti-immigration movement screams:
"We're reaching for someone to blame for our inadequacy!"
...and the crowd goes wild...

All of these issues existed long before immigration was a hot topic.
It just so happens that the immigration boom coincides with the collective realization that the leadership is struggling. The issues put forward seem more like a facade to hide the fact that nobody really knows what the hell is going on any more.

When the masses realize they're screwed, they turn to the leaders for a solution.
When the leaders don't have a solution, they pass the blame on to the easiest target.

Elementary, my dear Watson. Anyone got a kickball? Aim for the fat kid!
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posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 01:49 AM
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Well I wouldnt say it failed completety. Germany, like the UK or France has a lot of inmigrants but I think the culture is now more mixed than 20 years ago... I think it will take just time...



posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 02:09 AM
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Originally posted by The Revenant


I'm scared.

What is happening to us in Europe? Have we forgotten the lessons of the past? Millions of us died, from all corners of the globe, so that the lessons learnt from the collapse of fascism could be indellibly printed upon our minds for all time.


Lessons of the past? There was a reason why WWII happened, it wasn't because of Hitler, it was because of multiculturalism. The Germans had enough of foreigners taking over their population and outside powers dictating what they could do ( ie League of Nations). Nationalism became strongest in Germany when indigenous control was more in the hands of private interests.

And fascism did not collapse, it was adopted by the USA who was done with isolationist policies and prospered for global power. The Cold War was all about gaining global influence, and was rivaled between corporate control (from the top down) and socialism (from the bottom up). Considering all neo-fascists have to do to win is beat the masses, they have successfully found ways to persuade individual people all over the world to focus on anything other than their leadership (and ultimately the value of their lives). This has created the successful appearance that the socialist model is a failure.

Adding further to this Orwellian observation, there are many concepts and policies and beliefs in the world that are so blatantly wrong and hypocritical yet portrayed as realty that it is accepted as the general reality when on a tactical level it is cleary wrong. Ignorance is strength in our modern world. To understand how such a deliberate mass delusion could be introjected into the minds of millions of modern fascist supporters, you really only need to know one thing: the US government acquired and learned from top Nazi officials and scientists, specializing in social engineering and psychological manipulation. They are experts, and population divisions in modern Germany are entirely condoned by now globalist elites, all products of 65 years of American "friendly fascism".

But now it does not matter if something can be done to stop modern fascism, because it has moved on to corporations who control how things are done globally, not conventional nation-states that can be defeated by war... Because globalism feeds off war, and exploitation. This new German revelation is just proof of an effective mindset; if the nationalist Germans stick together they will survive ( just like two world wars). Their population's assertive, and sometimes aggressive beliefs have shaped the world we live in, so whatever happens there can happen anywhere under radically conservative regimes.



posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 02:13 AM
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I don't know... If there wasn't an Islam problem, we wouldn't need an Islam solution would we?

Though is this what she is really saying? That multi cultaralism meaning Islam and the west, have failed?
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posted on Oct, 17 2010 @ 03:21 AM
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Purely on the grounds that encouraging Germany to rise up will likely re-ignite their nationalist fervor.

I trust that Germans know better than they did when Hitler was swept into power. However, it doesn't take much to get the sheep to move into that direction.





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