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posted on Oct, 8 2010 @ 05:18 PM
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What I saw was in the middle of the day in clear skies. It was the classic metallic saucer shape you see in many accounts from the 40's through the 70's. It was directly above me and the bottom was smooth and round. I have the impression it was only maybe three hundred feet above me or so and maybe 30 to 50 feet across. It hovered for what seemed a long time but was maybe ten minutes and then it shot off at breakneck speed until it was out of sight. It was clearly under control and I have no idea why it was there or why I saw it. I was just a kid lying on a chase on our patio enjoying the sun.

My ancestry is German, I've spent my whole life in the US. I've read about the German craft with great interest, but only know what I've found in books and on the Internet. My Family came over around 1850 and bought up that land in Utah.




posted on Oct, 8 2010 @ 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by maybereal11
I am a rational person and wanted to understand what was happening. I felt really uncomfortable.



That line really struck a chord with me. It describes how I've felt all along.

Do you wish now you would have tried to go to the source of the noise or glad you did not try? I'm not sure how I would have reacted.



posted on Oct, 8 2010 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

I just tried ATS search to find something I posted only a year ago and took me some time to do that


I've never found an account matching the event and the date. I posted that date for someone else a few posts back.

I've spent many hours searching through any reports I find involving Florida. No luck.



posted on Oct, 8 2010 @ 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Tax dollars hard at work


It's nothing like when I grew up. Public Land was Public Land. There are roads around Green River, still legal to use but they fence the entrance with no gate so the best you can do is hop the fence. People used to run cattle and sheep there. Not any more.

One weird thing I saw when driving there last time I went was a Tank. Military Tank I mean. I was at a fence across a road like I mentioned, no way in and down this dirt road a ways was Tank, just sitting there. An older one that had been cleared of paint down to metal and it looked like it had just been done. No rust. Likely nothing but sure odd to run into on a road that used to be used by Ranchers to get to their grazing animals.

I recall John talking about his mine. In Northern Idaho they started taking peoples claims in the 90's. They would just post notices on their mining shacks and tell them to move on. Lots of angry people about that.



posted on Oct, 8 2010 @ 05:41 PM
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He only told me about being locked in a room. From what I gathered the tracks from his truck looked like there was a entrance into the side of the Mesa, but he could not make it out.

I heard recently he is still where he lived when I met him. We tipped more than a few Beers together and he was half nuts to be honest. He ended up with a large settlement from Uncle Sam for his exposure to Agent Orange; that's why we all started calling him Agent Orange. Vietnam and Cambodia really did a number on him. He kept a heavy log in his living room that he would sit and shoot bullets into for entertainment. It was a very rural town? He drank Buckhorn Beer, nasty stuff


Please do post that if you find it.



posted on Oct, 8 2010 @ 05:57 PM
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Are you familiar with the Arco area in Idaho at all? It's where they built the first Breeder Reactor and dozens of others since. Much of it is abandoned now. There is a large area of desert there riddled with government contractors and secret projects.

There was for quite some time a mock-up of a Nuclear Submarine off the side of the Arco Highway, just within site of the road. Looked like a large metallic weather balloon sort of, long and tube shaped. Nobody was supposed to know it was there
The Navy housed people in Idaho Falls and Pocatello and they commuted. It's gone now but always amazed me they trained Nuclear Sub personal in the middle of the Arco Desert.

For many years they had signs along the side of the road that you could not stop. If you did, I had a flat tire there once, you were immediately visited by a helicopter or a State Police officer. One of them is a friend.

Everyone living around there knows what all is there as we all know people who work there. What they thought was secret was not. The thing they seemed to protect the most was an isolated facility that developed the armor for the M1A1 Tank. A friend who was a gunner on one in Germany told me if you could get a good look at it, you could figure out how it worked so they kept their Tanks covered with burlap. Ironically, Popular Science ran a article with full details years earlier. It was basically the same as high impact corrugated cardboard.

That is one reason I often have a hard time believing so many things are kept secret by large numbers of people. People who worked at "The Site" would even call local AM Radio shows with information. When the UN had a safe there that held some Plutonium the whole area went ballistic because the Fed's claimed only low level waste was there. My buddy in the State Police even told me about escorting UN Personal inside and he was pissed off because they would not let them even search their vehicles.

The more they try and hide, the more it stands out in plain view.



posted on Oct, 8 2010 @ 06:53 PM
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I will post it up if and when I find it. The way you describle this guy it is possible he made it up or read it somewhere like I did, very strange indeed.



posted on Oct, 8 2010 @ 07:21 PM
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I am not a nutjob! honestly the phenomenon ocorred as I described. i knew that people would be scepticale and that is one of the reaspons why I did not post it. I am not proclaiming anything special or that I have esoteric knowledge just the truth that what happened



posted on Oct, 8 2010 @ 10:43 PM
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Old friend, thanks for sharing your personal experience with us; perhaps someday you will find the validation that you seek; it is my hope that all do. A truly interesting account.


seeker



posted on Oct, 9 2010 @ 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
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Thanks
No reason for me to lie. I can only relate experiences as best as I can remember them. Most of it relies on my trusting my own Parents truthfulness and that of others. My sighting in my youth is permanently burned into my memory. I have no idea if that saucer was military or otherwise, but it fit so many other peoples descriptions from that time, I have to give their stories due consideration.

I've seen others also but I'm convinced those were military craft. Only that one fits into the UFO / possibly Alien category.

Thanks for your post.


Thank you for relating this; your story is similar to my own reasons for joining this site. I'm the youngest of ten kids and my dad volunteered and joined the Navy in January 1942. He saw things and I remember him telling me about them, about lights in the sky at sea, and things that happened at the Philadelphia Naval Yard. He died in 1969 when I was seven, he was trying to fix the TV so we could watch the moon landing together. He always told me there was more "out there" - he loved JFK and Star Trek. I followed him into the service in 1983 - Did my basic at the same place, Great Lakes NTC. I've seen my share of strange sights, though it wasn't easy to see much being a bubble-head on a sub.



posted on Oct, 9 2010 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555

Originally posted by maybereal11
I am a rational person and wanted to understand what was happening. I felt really uncomfortable.



That line really struck a chord with me. It describes how I've felt all along.

Do you wish now you would have tried to go to the source of the noise or glad you did not try? I'm not sure how I would have reacted.


Good question. I am one of those people that enjoys thinking about and figuring out magic tricks...and most of the time I can watch carefully and surmise where the slight of hand was, even with good magicians. I enjoy figuring things out. I am also fairly unafraid of things. In my youth..on more than one occasion...my lack of common sense on knowing when to run led to me to taking a beating on more than one occassion. When a group of bullies would approach my buddies everyone would scatter and I'd just be standing there. My point is that I have a reasonable grasp on my fear instinct and a big curiousity for things.

But honestly in that circumstance no part of me wanted to walk into those woods. I don't think it was fear per se...It was a moment so out of the ordinary that it was like I had no context for action/reaction. I think that is why the man whose car had also completely shut down just yards in front of me...we simply stood beside our cars in the dark, staring at the woods not speaking for what seemed 10 minutes. Our only exchange was when I first arrived and asked him if his car died and he asked me if mine had. It seemed there was nothing to say beyond that...no "reality" context. I just wanted back to reality...I think that is why we both got in our cars and left without saying a word to one another.

I hate to say it, but if at that moment a UFO had flown over our heads at a crawl...and ET had waved out the window to us...and by coincidence I had a camera in one hand...I would have stood and stared and not taken a picture. It was just the zone I was in.



posted on Oct, 9 2010 @ 08:56 PM
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posted on Oct, 10 2010 @ 12:29 AM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555

Are you familiar with the Arco area in Idaho at all? It's where they built the first Breeder Reactor and dozens of others since. Much of it is abandoned now. There is a large area of desert there riddled with government contractors and secret projects.


No that was not on my list yet... I need 10 of me to track all the stuff going on. I was over at John's today and was looking at Midway Is and I landed at Midway Isnad, VA smack on top of a big radar installation



The Navy housed people in Idaho Falls and Pocatello and they commuted. It's gone now but always amazed me they trained Nuclear Sub personal in the middle of the Arco Desert.

For many years they had signs along the side of the road that you could not stop. If you did, I had a flat tire there once, you were immediately visited by a helicopter or a State Police officer. One of them is a friend.


The NAVY is the key to ALL of this... and they are not as hard to get info from, even easier that NASA. I wrote them once and got permission to post the tether satellite info on my site... no not the one on STS75 but the OTHER one
As to stopping and having security come and see you, we stopped at Hawthorne to take a photo of the sign at the NAVY base there and the guards came and confiscated the camera, even though we were on the public highway.... so on the next trip from Reno we didn't stop...






On a .mil site, on an obscure paper I found a small patch (hence the quality)



As to why in the desert? Well its whats beneath the desert that counts. I have spent a long time looking for underground water ways Here is the first level, not to deep. The bigger ones are even further down. I believe I know where the sea entrance is but still need to connect some tunnels, but thanks for the Arco tip
Will look that up in a minute





posted on Oct, 11 2010 @ 01:54 PM
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Thank you, I've been very encouraged by the warm reception this thread received. Far different than I expected and most welcome.



posted on Oct, 11 2010 @ 02:05 PM
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Those were definitely interesting times.

Our parents lived through some dramatic changes in their lives. Things changing at light speed around them.



posted on Oct, 11 2010 @ 02:10 PM
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I've thought many times about what I'd do if a ship landed in front of me. I fool myself into thinking I'd walk up and ask for a ride, but I know I'd likely just stand there waiting, not knowing what for.



posted on Oct, 11 2010 @ 02:42 PM
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In that part of Idaho, they just call it "The Site". It's actually lots of sites. Most is known these days but in the past they had lots of secrets going on.

Once I got it through my head that I was often mirroring somehow when searching for old roads I started finding landmarks on Google Earth. After I reversed it in my head as I searched outward from Green River I ran into the geysers which meant I was heading the right way. That of course led me straight to the launch site, so yes that is on one of the boundaries.

I also located a road that goes to a agate bed but that's another topic. I could not find when I was there last as I had it backwards in my head. Google Earth is great because I could make out where the old roads were.

The second Ranch location, I had no luck with finding anything. It's along the Green River between the river and Woodside which is a speck on the old highway. I see no sign of the old homestead which does not surprise me. Probably stripped for the old wood long ago. I can not locate the diversion tunnel I know was on the river where the property was located. Probably gone now or washed out as the river cuts out its new course.

I can not find the fenced in area where I think it should be and I'm wondering if it's there anymore. Of course it could be in plain site and I'm missing it. I found the spot I thought it was and then figured if I go due west I'll hit Woodside and it was were it should be from my memory. Back when the Ranch was still operating, Woodside is where they went to get their mail. They had to go all the way to Price on a Buckboard for supplies or to see an MD.

One of my Uncles lost part of a hand to a Rattlesnake bite because it took two days to get to a Doctor for help. I remember reading the story out of the family journal at his funeral. He only had one finger and his thumb on that hand.

I'm rambling again but that helps me remember things.

Anyway, that launch site by Green River is on a road I remember and the old property would have spread from there over towards Colorado and generally to the southeast. The Freeway's and most of the current roads did not exist or where not much more than jeep trails. Just past there is a road where we got trapped for two days after a flash flood came through. Had to wait for the gully it made to dry out before we could cross it.

I never see much about the goings on in the Arco Desert between Idaho Falls and Arco. If I remember right there were nearly fifty reactors built there all together and plenty of roads closed to the public heading off into nowhere.



posted on Oct, 11 2010 @ 10:35 PM
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posted on Oct, 12 2010 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by Aquarius1
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I will post it up if and when I find it. The way you describle this guy it is possible he made it up or read it somewhere like I did, very strange indeed.


No, I don't think he made it up. Anything is possible however. It was a strange coincidence though.

As best as I can recall, it started when I mentioned where our old family land was located and that it was taken by the government. Then he started telling me about delivering secret loads to that area and described the Farmhouse we could see from the fence.



posted on Oct, 15 2010 @ 02:23 AM
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Thank you. It really means a lot to me that you read my post. I've posted it before, but, I just don't seem to find the ummmm connection to others that I expected to find here. But, hey, life just is, ya know? Thank you for reading my post, and for your wonderful comments.





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