Originally posted by observe50
Forgot to mention I can't wait until you get back so Zorgon will continue what he has to share.

I also wanted to say the government had no right to take that property of yours, I wonder if there is anyway possible you could fight that after all these years.

Something just isn't right about this and I am glad you finally found it in yourself to share this this with us.

I'm working my through as fast as I can. I don't want to slight anyone.

I doubt there is anything that could be done and believe me, I've thought of that myself. The first Ranch had strategic minerals and they were paid, only not nearly enough nor did they know the value of the minerals it contained. The Uranium I'd think was simply something they realized they needed to control in the future.

The second property, was during a time of war.

My family never held that against the government from what I've read in the histories, but instead considered it a duty and being part of America. It's hard to know as my Grandparents, all but one, were dead before I was born. I might of mentioned I was what they called a late life accident and my siblings were old enough to be my Parents.

If it were possible the number of people with a claim this many generations out must be in the hundreds.

To the Original Poster, I admire your sincerity and your post was very good. Except you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. You wanted to come to this board at least five years ago. Now ATS is nothing more than a sounding board for attention seekers, liars, and those who post fiction as fact. This board was great once, those days are over. Good luck with your search for answers but all you are going to get here is a bunch of b.s.

Originally posted by inivux
I don't know if it is merely because of your impeccable control of written English, but this history of your experiences with extra-terrestrial craft and beings is probably the only relatively legitimate account I have ever read.

S&F

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Thank you for that. I'd feared that all I would get is flames and now I feel foolish. It is the truth, of course filtered through many years, but I stuck just to what I know and tried to not inject any opinions in it.

Other than the experiences with the government regarding the land, its much like other accounts I've read. To me it has to be true because I know the nature of my Parents and I can't get the look in my Mothers eyes as she so matter of factually told me. She was still mourning my Fathers death and the way she looked at her feet while telling me, I know she felt almost guilty for telling me without my Fathers being there or having his approval. I know it was him that kept it secret for all those years. I also know from him giving me that book, he felt it important to tell me.

I never questioned my Mother and I just accepted it. I still have guilt that I never told her about my own sighting. Even more so as I had the sighting while lying on the same chase my Father would sit in at night looking for "satellites" and I now know he was looking for something else.

Originally posted by Sp33d
Very Nice thread! I for one commend you for coming forward and I understand why you are so skeptic.
I feel the same about it. I have had so many dreams and so many I guess "visions" of this stuff and I always kept it in the back of my head. And It gives me the chills not because the idea scares me but because I get deja vu. I dont know why or whatever but IT hits me like a freight train. Where in California are you...We need to do lunch!

I'm in Alaska, sorry. Otherwise?

Oddly enough this has been a positive experience where I expected a negative one. Kind of cleansing. The next step is more scary. I'm going to repeat the whole thing to my Wife this weekend. I should have long ago, she won't be bothered by it.

Originally posted by crankyoldman
There is a long, really long, line of posts like this. So, right off the idea has a lot going against it.

May I suggest that you at least state what said folks have told you in the past and what has come to fruition. Right now, it just sounds made up, made up of a multitude of stuff from this site.

There are some beings who enjoy feeding misinformation via these kinds of exchanges, nancy leider (sp) comes to mind. Part of the problem with this post and many like them, is the people who reiterate the information talk as though they have zero discernment - as nancy clearly did or does. They talk as though a machine spit out a paper that says "war in three weeks" and they accept it without a dialogue to flush it out.

So, in future, it helps the case you and others are trying to make to flush the conversation out, if you didn't at the time, well then....

I'm puzzled as to what you mean here. What folks are you talking about? "Beings who enjoy feeding misinformation"?

Originally posted by dplum517
Excellent Story my friend. You sound like someone I want to know and be friends with. I also live in Utah right now and have my own UFO stories that have also lead me here. The amount of UFOs I have seen this year (2010) is utterly improbable.
I feel like all of us need to start a crusade so the TRUTH can be known.

What part of Utah? I'd love to hear your accounts.

I think ATS is that crusade.

Zorgon and everyone else posting, I'll have to return later to this. This is my first experience with a thread of this nature and it is intimidating. I don't want to miss anyone.

I have to do my payroll now so I don't get lynched. I'm already getting the stares wondering what I'm up to.

Zorgon you have some great stuff to share and we need to talk more over this weekend. I'll catch up with some more posts later in the day.

Thank you to everyone for this reception of my tale. It is appreciated. Makes me feel foolish for being here so long and not discussing it sooner. I'm a product of the time I grew up in.

I always find these experiences interesting, especially when Utah is involved. I'm from Wendover, about an hour and 1/2 from Salt Lake, and I've also had some strange sightings in the area and, as someone earlier had posted, Dugway, as well. There seems to be more UFO experiences in Utah than I had originally thought. Great post, by the way

You are having difficulty sticking to your story (timeline) you jump from one section to another, like your mind simply cannot tell a story from begining to end, i tend to question ones mental sanity, when they cannot tell thier story from begining to end, however this does not mean you suffer from a mental disorder, just have trouble communicating.

I also tend to have diffculty communicating (verbally) i sudder and jummble my words together, as if i am trying to say several differnt thoughts at the same time (i hate taking time to say words, if i was telepathic i would have perfect communcation skills)

Although i am skecptic on aliens and ufos, when i was 12 i was in ottawa going home from the museam of science and stuck in traffic in the middle of the day, i saw a shiny metal saucer, before that moment i didnt even think of ufos as a possilbility, i do consider it, but i tend to find ways to disprove ones theories, there are holes in your story, one you listen to others stories as if they were 100% true, that is a flawed way of going about gather information on the subject.

You cant just assume something is true, just because someone your trust says it is, you have to consider this mental sanity, the possilbilty they misunderstood what they saw, but eliminating any and all possilbilites, only then do you find your answer to what you are looking for.

Personally MY opinion is that these "aliens" are actully humans from the future (not humans by name) thousands perhaps millions of years from the future, to enchance thiersevles by enchancing us, what gave me this idea, was the discription of these beings (bipedal, two large eyes, large head, grey skin) its what we will evolve to (either naturally or genetic alterations), but what gave it away was, greed.

Who else in all the universe/multiverse would want to vist our little planet (when earth like planets are very common) with all the differnt diversities of life, why would they look like us? or even act (in a more advanced fashion)

But by altering thier own history they make themsevles litterly into "Gods" so its greed that fuels them, greed that age old instict that has been around in human history since/before our existence. IF disclosure came out, it would destory thier future most likely, unless we were either to accept it and reach for the goal, or something bad would happen to most of the population (so even i f they did know, they wouldnt live long to alter history)

Thats my idea, and if you understand time even in the slightest it can be altered, but if we are doing this what if another alien race, did this? many more times over? (plus we came into the univerisal picture a little late)

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Originally posted by observe50
Blaine I hope you don't mind me posting this here but Fox News just reported that again China shut down there airport because of a UFO.......picture included.

They say it is the second time there airport was shut down and since June there has been 6 sightings of unexplained UFO sightings there.

This was just reported I have no info just wanted it out.

Sorry you can remove if you like

Fox has been good about reporting those things. I saw a flash of that this morning while getting ready to come in to my office. I thought that's what it was about. I usually try and catch a few minutes of Fox and CNN in the mornings.

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by Blaine91555
Perhaps the gaps in memory are a protective device to insure we don't know until we are ready and then just maybe our Government is up to things beyond what we know. I'm even open to the idea of time travelers.

I am working on a theory related to the lost time... not time travelers but something to do with the power source.

Finally caught up to you. That's an interesting take and as good an idea as I've read. So many possibilities and the answers are so hard to come by.

I've never seriously looked into understanding that and I should. I understand the basics behind what might make that possible.

This stuff lately about communication and possible transport through quantum physics is almost surreal in how its thought to work. What that will lead to is exciting stuff. We can't be far from some amazing revelations.

this story reminds when i was in northern british columbia, canada. i was fishing salmon and hunting turkey in '95, it was a 3 day weekend and i took a tent, some supplies, my rod and my hunting rifle. on the second day of my trip, i went to sleep early so i could get up and start heading back. at about 3:00 am i heard some rustling outside, this is not unusual since it is the wilderness and those kind of noises are normal. i sat down and closed my eyes and i heard the tent zipper starting to unzip, i sat back up and watched the zipper make a complete route around the zipper flap. that's the last thing i remember because i assumed i must have blacked out. i woke up about noon outside my tent in my sleeping bag about 30 metres away from my tent. i went back to camp and everything was packed up and in perfect order. what really freaked me out was that my camp fire was started with fresh timber and my kettle was whistling and my tin cup with 1 teaspoon of coffee and 1 teaspoon of sugar was set up perfectly beside my folding chair. the only thing missing was my rifle because i remember looking for it right away. when i couldn't find i started yelling out for however was the f - out there to come out. i then felt a calm feeling come over me and i felt i was alone but not alone at the same time. its strange to explain. i drank my coffee sitting there trying to figure out wtf just happened. i finished my coffee and then booked it right away. i couldn't report my rifle stolen because i don't know what happened to it so i said that it jammed and broke and i left it in the woods. when anybody i knew asked me how my trip went i said o.k. it was the most freakin thing that ever has happened to me.