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reply posted on 21-10-2010 @ 03:24 PM by Blaine91555
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Sorry, I have not been on much due to work.

No, no Free Masons I know of. One Uncle was a John Bircher and drove us all nuts with their stuff. Nice guy though.


reply posted on 31-1-2011 @ 07:01 PM by Blaine91555
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Wow, odd story? Sorry I did not notice your post sooner. I'm not very good at keeping up with my threads.

My whole way of thinking on that kind of topic has changed a lot since reading more about Dimensions and Quantum Physics.


reply posted on 28-7-2011 @ 04:07 PM by Lost_Mind
Wow, your family has been mixed up on the edge of some crazy stuff. How did you all stay out of the UFO cult machine?

I am a skeptic because I want to know the truth someday, not just get strung along by a belief. I don't need faith I want knowledge. At this point my intuition tells me that although alien visitation to this planet is possible there is no irrefutable proof of it yet, so the next best explanation for a lot of the very good and very tangible sightings are that they are ours and very, very secret. Probably pop them out of the pantry when they need to use the "UFO" craze to cover something else up, smoke and mirrors. "Hey, look at this shiny thing here while we do something naughty over there" kind of deal.

I have a buddy who saw a classic saucer craft back in the '70's here in Tennessee while walking to his bus stop in the morning. Yeah, he didn't go to school that day. He thinks his sighting was military as well. I think a lot of us have seen something we can't explain at some point in our lives, I know I have and still can't get to alien piloted craft yet. Gotta have that proof, its a damn curse. I think what is most important is how we react to our experiences and how we carry them with us through our lives, what we use them for.

I wish for that moment to look up and literally have to keep from pissing myself from what I am observing. I think if I saw something similar as you I would turn to stone, I would be so personally fulfilled that I would never speak about it again. Epiphany and personal revelation are good enough for me, but it would be nice to have another human standing next to me to get that eye to eye validation from as well... someday, someday...


reply posted on 29-11-2011 @ 04:54 PM by Blaine91555
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Sorry, I have not checked this in a long time. Interesting question.

I cannot speak for my Parents although I think that I'm like them. Sometimes being honest with ourselves is the hardest of all. After seeing one of the saucers I'd been reading about up close and personal, my mind did not automatically go to Alien, but instead to is that some kind of experimental aircraft.

I suspect my Father who's attitudes most certainly formed mine, would have approached it the same way. First thought would have been military craft rather than alien craft until proven otherwise.

Where I'm at now is no further along than I was the hour after seeing a Saucer myself. I simply do not know what I saw. Could be ET, could be a test craft still being hidden from us. I cannot deny it and it was clearly a very large, intelligently controlled craft capable of hovering for an extended time and then traveling almost straight up and out of sight in seconds.

Even though due to my own experience I should be very open to others stories, I have the gut feeling most of the stories are just stories. Not all and there are those that I think are very real and also leave the same questions, was that something earthly or not.

I'm simply not the type to be anything but a skeptic searching for answers. I see the Skeptic as the only type than can get to the truth on most any issue. In the end, it will be the so called Skeptics who find the answers. Unconditional believers are actually a deterrent to truth.

I'm rambling again.


reply posted on 29-11-2011 @ 06:34 PM by Blaine91555
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Hi Zorgon. Hope all is well with you.

Puppy Poop

Too much coffee today. Need a good argument to set things right? Me I'm home sick as a dog and am an easy target. So........................

Semantics games are just games. Skeptics question. In the end if proof comes forward, it will be from a skeptic. Being both a witness and a skeptic I find it easy to believe that.

Tell me, if you see an aircraft that looks out of the ordinary and you cannot explain it by something you have seen or know about, do you automatically believe it is Alien in origin? If not, you are a skeptic. Skeptics are willing to admit they don't know something and have the least personal baggage to cloud their thinking.

How could being anything other than a skeptic, be said to be the result of wisdom or critical thinking. Don't make me pull out my Occams Razor


reply posted on 30-11-2011 @ 05:08 AM by zorgon
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The difference is a matter of degree,,, with skeptic on the far right and believer on the far left with analysts somewhere in the middle that study everything before making an opinion one way or the other.

A believer will state "its obviously an alien"
A skeptic will state "it can't be an alien that makes no sense... so prove it"
An analyst will say "hmmm lets have a closer look if it may or may not be an alien" and goes on to test it with research


Six years ago when I came to ATS I ran into John Lear. Most skeptics just dismiss everything he says as the ravings of a lunatic. And at first I too thought he was way out there. But instead of being skeptical, I examined it. And I found that a lot of what he says I could not only follow up on, I even found documents to support it. And since then the contacts I have gotten are amazing

As to Occam's Razor That old thing is dull... and most skeptics just toss it around as if they actually understand the concept. But see? Here again a simple bit of analytical research tells a different story and its even on wikipedia

The principle is often summarized as "simpler explanations are, other things being equal, generally better than more complex ones." In practice the principle is usually focused on shifting the burden of proof in discussions.That is, the razor is a principle that suggests we should tend towards simpler theories until we can trade some simplicity for increased explanatory power. Contrary to the popular summary, the simplest available theory is sometimes a less accurate explanation. Philosophers also add that the exact meaning of "simplest" can be nuanced in the first place.

en.wikipedia.org...

Contrary to the popular summary, the simplest available theory is sometimes a less accurate explanation


So toss that old rusty razor on the scrap heap... it just doesn't cut it anymore


reply posted on 30-11-2011 @ 04:41 PM by Blaine91555
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I know my humor is a bit dry and hard to spot at times, but

I was serious about the semantics game though, it's just another version of the old straw man argument.

I'll never buy that those who believe first and question later are taking a wise approach. Makes no sense.

I liked John and it's a shame he stopped posting (and yes I read every thread and every detail while it was going on) even though he is still a member here. I think his stuff is mostly transparent nonsense, but that does not matter. I don't dislike somebody because they believe something I don't. I enjoyed his dry wit that I think was lost on many. Cranky Old Fart would be a good description and it fits me well lately also.


reply posted on 4-12-2011 @ 04:37 PM by observe50
I have been here at ATS since 2004 and seen it go back and forth in good ways and not so good ways.

What I like about the internet is you can put info out and when it sounds nuts/crazy most will either ignore, insult and so on but the point is you can get it out there.

To be honest with you I still have a hard time knowing that all these decades (many peoples lifetime) have passed and this subject is still not moving forward why? because of the hoaxers.

For myself if you know of what I write then you know that I am a Human with an Alien Soul that they sent back here into Human form to help this Human Race when it is time and the time is sadly coming. Sadly your parents went through this with some type of an experience in their lives and always wondered but there was not help like there is now......... the internet has been very helpful but don't get me wrong it has always been a hinderance.

The Human Race has grown in ignorance because they trusted in the ones that Governed them and generation after generation passed down what they had been taught but is was lies really.

We do need a One World Government but not the One World Government the Leaders plan of greed and Power we need it run by our Family from the skies until "Human's get it" and evolve a wee bit kinda of like............ a small step for man one giant leap for mankind.

The change is coming but it won't be nice but if you use logic and commom sense many can survive.

I understand how your parents felt Blaine and it's time what they had to go through has to stop. We all need to work together to make the change we want for the peace, love, happiness health and yes even the wealth.

THEY WAIT FOR THE HUMAN RACE TO WAKE SPIRITUALLY and the Human Race will wake one way or the other.
edit on 4-12-2011 by observe50 because: Typo



reply posted on 10-1-2012 @ 06:47 PM by Blaine91555
reply to post by observe50



Sorry I missed this. I guess what you believe IS who you are. Whether you are as you say or not, I have no quarter with the idea we need a "spiritual" awakening of sorts.

Still it gets better as the generations go by. Change is always slow in coming it seems. Parents pass on their nature to their children as does everyone around us in society. Change on a global scale will span centuries rather than generations. As long as we manage to survive we will continue to progress. If we don't progress we cannot survive.

Let's hope we survive to see the time where hate is gone and we are not surrounded by evil people, who's only motivation is to bring harm to others or force their wants on them.
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