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Originally posted by Quadrivium
Originally posted by neo96
entitlements is the modern face of slavery dont like that assessment then stop pushing it.
the op is right entitlements do nothing but keep those people down and i can guarantee you this factoid
anyone pushing entitlements dont live on them.
people called me stupid when i said this in another thread im glad someone with a greater skill set than my own
made this thread.
Not sure my skill set is all that great brother. I am just a working stiff getting by the best way I can.
This topic is just so important! How can we make people see?
I did not make this thread to be left against right I made it to shine light on racism.
So hopefully people will begin to see what is fueling it and keeping it alive.
I used to blame minorities then as stated in the OP, I got hurt in '04 and after leaving that DSS office I began looking deeper and
It is a lot easier to blame minorities than finding the source, you have to want to see and a lot of people don't want to. They would rather take the easy way out
Thanks for the compliment though
Originally posted by Curiousisall
Originally posted by neo96
the op is right entitlements do nothing but keep those people down and i can guarantee you this factoid
The OP is right? Then I guess the OP is wrong about the Tea Party? Since he claimed that the Tea Party is NOT racist, simply because they support a black man for office. Given that line of logic presented by the OP, how can he then go on to claim the people that supported Obama are racist?
I guess if he is right in this thread, then he is wrong saying the Tea Party cannot be racist because they support a black guy.
Maybe someone can help me understand how both can be true.
Originally posted by Quadrivium
Do you honestly believe that a truly racist group would set a minority up to lead them and back him for the highest office in the land? Do you not see how silly that is?
It is much more easier to believe that people are so caught up and delusioned by their own ideology that they will believe what ever is spoon fed to them.
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Originally posted by IntastellaBurst
So your "proof" for democrats being "racist" are bills from over a hundred years ago ??
... or one thats almost fifty years old !!.
You know Obama is black right ?? wait, wait, you must think that is part of a grander conspiracy to instill false hope and ultimately keep the black man down.
... do you think they send memo's to welfare office's ?? helpful reminders to be racist ??
Certainly then all general managers must go through an orientation on how not to hire black people.
Dear god !! how deep does the conspiracy go !!!
This is Ludicrous, ... and just a clever twist on " my party is better than yours"
you people act like a bunch of children.
It's sad. I think the current social system of welfare breeds a lot of anger, hate, resentment, and.... racism.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Race baiting .. playing the race card ... Victimhood ...
All big money makers for a bunch of people out there.
And then there are the poor slobs who go along with them, not seeing they are being used.
The real racists are the RACISTS .. who come in all
skin colors and who play others. When someone gets the race card played against them -
dollars to donuts - the one being played against is the victim and the one playing the race
card is the actual racist but isn't aware of it (and would be highly offended if you even
suggested it).
Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by Quadrivium
Just one problem with your logic: The Republican and Democratic parties of the modern day are not the same parties that existed in the 19th and early 20th centuries.
Therefore, blaming racism on the Democratic party of old is illogical because the folks who made up that party are mostly dead by now.
Originally posted by Quadrivium
And if I can show that is not the case will you change your views?
Originally posted by Quadrivium
Do you honestly believe that a truly racist group would set a minority up to lead them and back him for the highest office in the land? Do you not see how silly that is?
It is much more easier to believe that people are so caught up and delusioned by their own ideology that they will believe what ever is spoon fed to them.
edit on 27-9-2010 by Quadrivium because: (no reason given)
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I've never known anyone who has become wealthy solely because of welfare programs. And so often, the Democrat Party reminds me of just that: welfare, entitlement programs, and high taxes.
In being part of the post Civil Rights, Black Panther, Hippie, Great Society generation, I was force fed big government ideology, without question. There was no questioning Democrat ideology in inner city Chicago, especially as a black American.
In high school, I met a black Republican. Unheard of. To me at the time, he was a traitor. But then, as I became exposed to different view points and ideology, I began asking some questions. "What have Democrats done that has made my family's life any better?"
When I got my first paycheck in high school, I noticed the tax deductions right away. City tax, state tax, federal tax, Social Security tax, Medicare tax. I started asking more questions. I then began learning about economics, taxes, civics, and pondering and debating what is the role of government. And that education was not one-sided either. During that time, I often asked, why should taxes keep going to welfare programs, when I see and know people purposefully 'gaming' the System? What was the original purpose of these programs?
During every election, I kept hearing Democrats pushing some government program, and people in my neighborhood were still just as poor as ever. It's as if people were becoming dependent slaves to the System. And that's when things really clicked.
Welfare had become mental slavery, and Democrats seemed to be the masters. I'd become tired of seeing people, blacks particularly, having more kids, to get more welfare benefits. And when Democrats vigorously fought Welfare Reform, and screamed how racist and evil such reform is, I was appalled. Prior to the Welfare Reform Act of 1996, I've seen how several generations of black Americans had become dependent on such a system. In the beginning, it used to be embarrassing to be on welfare. 30 years later, it almost seemed an entitlement, or a first and primary means to make a sub-standard living.
I noticed another pattern. Every time some new government program was proposed, Democrats pushed raising taxes. All the while, I thought, if I were able to keep more of my money that I earned, maybe I can pay more of my bills, save, and get ahead.
In college, I began to understand how high business and corporate taxes can hurt job production. I began to understand how most jobs are created by small businesses. Constantly raising taxes, and taxing the wealthy disproportionately, also leads to less spending and investing, by those 'wealthy' people, and the average consumer as well. And when business taxes are raised, who absorbs the cost? The consumer. By my sophomore year in college, my departure from the Democrat Party had become complete. I had become a fiscal Conservative.
It seems that the more power that government is given, the more that they can take away from its citizens. And that is very frightening to me. It seems that the bigger government becomes, the harder it is for them to be held to account by its citizens. And this is when waste and corruption seems to occur most. Democrats, who historically in the past 60 plus years, champion big government, have become symbolic of taxing and spending.
Trying to make big government run more efficiently for the greater good, and to also be more accountable, is very commendable, but unfortunately naive. Even smaller government has its corruption and waste. But instead of asking what can government do for me, as many Democrats ideologically seem to, I'm more interested in asking what can I do for myself, my family, and my community, without the government interfering.
The left today encourages blacks not only to view themselves as victims of intransigent white racism, but also to exploit the implied moral superiority conferred by that status. Hoover Institution Senior Fellow Shelby Steele, who is black, wrote in 2006:
"Possibly white guilt's worst effect is that it does not permit whites—and nonwhites—to appreciate something extraordinary: the fact that whites in America, and even elsewhere in the West, have achieved a truly remarkable moral transformation. One is forbidden to speak thus, but it is simply true. There are no serious advocates of white supremacy in America today, because whites see this idea as morally repugnant. If there is still the odd white bigot out there surviving past his time, there are millions of whites who only feel goodwill toward minorities."
A similar sentiment is expressed by the black Harvard sociologist Orlando Patterson, who writes: "America, while still flawed in its race relations … is now the least racist white-majority society in the world; has a better record of legal protection of minorities than any other society, white or black; [and] offers more opportunities to a greater number of black persons than any other society, including all of Africa."
In modern America, whatever threat white racism may pose to the black community is inconsequential when compared to the damage that illegitimacy and fatherlessness have inflicted on it. For several decades, the black out-of-wedlock birth rate has hovered around 70 percent -- far higher than the national average among other demographic groups. Statistically, illegitimacy is the single most reliable predictor of children growing up in poverty; being abused or neglected; dropping out of school; developing behavioral problems; experiencing emotional disorders; having a weak sense right and wrong; being unable to delay gratification or to control their sexual impulses; being sexually active as teens; conceiving children out-of-wedlock; being on welfare when they reach adulthood; and spending time in state reform institutions or prison.
The left, however, characterizes such pathologies as nothing more than by-products of white racism.