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UK Teenager Banned From America For Life Over Obscene Obama Email

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posted on Sep, 13 2010 @ 11:36 PM
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UK Teenager Banned From America For Life Over Obscene Obama Email




A British teenager who sent an email to the White House calling President Obama an obscenity was banned from America for life, The Sun reported Monday.

The FBI asked local cops to tell college student Luke Angel, 17, his drunken insult was "unacceptable."

Angel said he fired off a single email criticizing the U.S. government after seeing a TV program about the 9/11 attacks.

He said, "I don't remember exactly what I wrote as I was drunk. But I think I called Barack Obama a p***k. It was silly -- the sort of thing you do when you're a teenager and have had a few."


Read the full article here

I think this is a bit ridiculous - I understand writing the president and calling him names may be upsetting to him, but seriously, banned for life from the US for it? How many people have posted things on the internet about the president, and other political officials and not been reprimanded (not saying that I agree people should get in trouble, because they don't)?

What happened to free speech? I know some of you are going to say "Well he's not in the US therefore the laws of this land do not apply to him."

Well still I think we should have free speech for ALL mankind not just those who are sitting within our boarders.

I mean yes there are certain things that if said should be taken seriously, but this kid posed no threat to the president or anyone, he simply called Obama a name... I hope he feels good about banning someone from the US because he got all teary eyed about some teenager's letter to him.




posted on Sep, 13 2010 @ 11:43 PM
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Yeah, I find it hard to defend this if that is all that his letter actually said. But the article does say that the government cannot discuss individual cases - so we may never know if that is all that this kids drunken and emotional letter said. Based upon that fact I can't decide how I feel about this.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 12:17 AM
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Its an email. Back in the day when you could actually call the WH, according to my mom, you could ask all sorts of pointed questions. Sure, you only got an aide, but your calls were recorded and you were duly noted on the subversive list, yet profanity was never the aim, questions were(which were never answered,of course), but you never got banned from the country. They probably got an app for that now, though. Her time was during the Nixon era even. Surprisingly enough, she never made it to Leavenworth for her drunk antics. Makes you wonder what the penalty would be if you actually knew bos cell # and posted it worldwide.

Threatening bodily harm is one thing, a silly rant is another. One guy on another conspiracy site threatened The pres and he's safely locked away for a looong time. He was a total nutjob though. Stevie his name was. Thats way different. Anyway, it would be near improbable to even get close. Mainstream folks are allowed to criticize but never threaten. The only ones who could would be his own people. Proven fact. The mythos that some lone lunatic can defeat the logistic supremacy of the prez' protectorate and defeat them and get off a lucky one is just that.

Stupid kid. Marked for life now. Might not be too easy to get a job after he finishes school. Never know, that might just turn him into an enemy of the state now. Kid should have hooked up porn instead of going against the leader of the free world when he was drunk.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 12:26 AM
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A post in this thread states that the kid also threatened Obama. That is always a no-no.
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 12:39 AM
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How do you know Luke Angel is banned from America for life?
Because he says English cops told him so in private ...

How do you know what he said in an email to Obama?
You don't, because even Angel can't remember what he said ...
He thinks ...

And how believable is the story anyway?
Yeah, sure, he was too drunk to remember what he'd said, he's too stupid to be able to look in the "sent emails" folder and find out, but this stupid drunk teenager was able to find Obama's email address and send off an email to him.

Logically, he knows what he said, but it's so bad he doesn't want to admit it.


The FBI asked local cops to tell college student Luke Angel, 17, his drunken insult was "unacceptable."

- and that's most likely all that happened.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 12:52 AM
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I suggest the young man if he reads this simply write a letter of apology to the White House accompanied by a statement from the local police that he has no record of arrests or problems with the law. He might include a letter from an education source attesting to his character. More, I suggest he fax the documents or send them through a US Consulate or the embassy in London.

His request should go to the White House Office of Protocol and specifically ask the President's Staff to direct the FBI to lift the restrictions and remove his name from no fly lists.

It was a really stupid stunt and he should consider getting help for his alcohol problem if this is to be the manner in which he behaves while intoxicated. He could have a long and joyful life in the future but this isn't the way to get started. My best,



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 12:53 AM
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I think this is crazy! Whoa, the King has been insulted and now taking his ball back. So, now disrespecting the king is no longer acceptable? I thought that we are the beacon of freedom, liberty and justice, or at least supposed to be anyway. What kind of message does this send? If you exercize your natural, god-given right to free-speech about our dear leader, the ruler over a land that is supposed to champion such freedoms, then you are not welcome here.

This actually disgusts me and Obama doesn't answer for me. This government and country is not his, it belongs to the people, so he shouldn't have the right to say who can and can't come in, just because he felt insulted. This is a testament to the direction in which we have turned and indicative of where we are going.



--airspoon



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 12:58 AM
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How about if you put it this way:


A Beds Police spokesman said: "The individual sent an email to the White House full of abusive and threatening language. We were informed by the Metropolitan Police and went to see him. He said, 'Oh dear, it was me'."

Source

An email "full of abusive and threatening language" sounds very different than just calling the president a prick.

It may still have been an overreaction to ban him for life (assuming that part of the story is even true; I haven't seen any confirmation on that). But this looks like tabloid spin to me.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 12:59 AM
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I don't know what he might have said, but I'd advise him for his own good never to come back here. Not saying I agree with what happened to the kid, but he'd just better stay away.

There are laws in the U.S. that if they think he made some kind of threat against the president or any other public official, he could go to jail for a long time, This is no joke. Even Americans can be sent to federal prison for that.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 01:01 AM
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I would agree, if that's all it was. The police in England however, say there was threatening language in the email.



A Beds Police spokesman said: "The individual sent an email to the White House full of abusive and threatening language. We were informed by the Metropolitan Police and went to see him. He said, 'Oh dear, it was me'."

www.thesun.co.uk...

Even still, I would think the authorities could do a threat assessment and figure out whether or not this kid is a danger.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 01:04 AM
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As long as he didn't threaten the President (which some say he did) then it's my opinion the situation is either blown way out of proportion with the FBI and Media, etc, or - The kid wasn't standing in a FREE SPEECH ZONE when he wrote the email. That's it!

GRRRRR!!!


Thank goodness I don't have the email for the White House - I'd never be let back in the USA for sure.

peace


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posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 01:06 AM
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Im sure the white house gets a lot of emails calling obama names from people all over the world,
this kids email must have been extremely threatening if the FBI had to act on it.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 01:23 AM
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Poetic justice... a U.K. lad (lass? hehe) verbally abuses our president and can't come to the USA, and people are bent; a radio talk show host expresses his freedom of speech, and can't go to Britain and people support that.

I have to laugh at the hypocrisy in the world.


edit on 9/14/2010 by abecedarian because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 01:28 AM
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Originally posted by highlyoriginal

Read the full article here


No, read the full article here, where you will find an importent paragraph which Fox News mendaciously decided to leave out.


A Beds Police spokesman said: "The individual sent an email to the White House full of abusive and threatening language. We were informed by the Metropolitan Police and went to see him. He said, 'Oh dear, it was me'."


www.thesun.co.uk...

This is why you should always look for the original article to quote from.

There are obviously limits to everything, even freedom of speech. And once you threaten the President, in writing, you have crossed over those limits.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by Kailassa
This is why you should always look for the original article to quote from.

There are obviously limits to everything, even freedom of speech. And once you threaten the President, in writing, you have crossed over those limits.


First, I did check for the original article, I started on one website and ended up on the one I used in the OP as it says it was the source (which it was for the article I originally read).

And for those of you questioning the article(s) then how come you keep accepting he threatened the president? How do you know he didn't just say "I'm going to kick you butt you stupid POS!"

Ooo how threatening!

They didn't release what he said that was supposedly 'threatening' - but hey who knows?

My point was that banning a teenager from the US over something that was a freedom of speech matter (at least that's what I thought when I read the article), is a bit excessive, is it not?

Anyway, who knows the true story, either way this sounds fairly stupid.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 02:17 AM
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Barack Obama's skin is way too thin. In Iroquois culture our leaders are required to have very thick skin. Have you noticed this President lately, he looks and sounds irritated, makes me laugh. He doesn't like being President so much now. Grow up Barack, let the kid in the country.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 02:20 AM
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That's a complete load of crap! I don't care what names the kid called Obama (if this is true), it IS freedom of speech is it not? Without threats I don't see how this could possibly ban someone from the country. That is so childish. It's like, "you're not allowed in my tree house club because you called me jerkface poopyhead!) Big deal!



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 02:30 AM
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From what I read in this morning's paper, all the kid did was to call him a 'prick' (oops dam I said it to! what happens now do I get a dressing down from the local cops here now?) Seriously is he that precious? What happened to freedom of expression, etc Not to mention that he is in a completely different country and the local bobbie's get sent round to sort him out!?!?! whats with that????
Frankly some people need to sort their priority's out.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 03:23 AM
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Honesty is no longer acceptable. Everyone has to put so much sugar on what they say, people are now free to taint what they hear with things far more dangerous than salt: lead, fluorine, lithium and arsenic.

Society's death follows soon.



posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 03:47 AM
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Another sign that Freedom of Speech is evaporating.

It's probably not in America's best interests to deny holidays and visas to people for such petty reasons - especially when those people of from countries considered allies.


edit on 14/9/2010 by Dark Ghost because: reworded for clarity



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