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Are Barack Obama’s “Dreams” Ruining America?

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posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 08:12 PM
How interesting all of this history about this (president ??). So clear this individual is a liar and so many fools look like total morons for voting for Mr. Comander and clown. His helpers are as sick as he is. Bush (this guy obama) little o and other have already destroyed this pathetic nation of zombies, fat zombies.

posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 08:15 PM
The OP has it all wrong. If Obama could actually make his dreams into law the country would be better off. Unfortunately there are no laws without Congress, and Congress always destroys everything put in front of it or passes it in a form completely different than it's original intent. Give Obama the right to dictate the laws and I think folks would be a bit happier with him. You do realize this is a 100 year mess that he is being asked to fix in less than 2 years?

Also do you realize the stock market is up over 25% since he took office? He hasn't done all bad.

posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 09:03 PM

Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
As several people pointed out, what Obama SAYS and what he DOES are frequently two different things. Let's look at NAFTA. He made a campaign promise to renegotiate NAFTA.

Until his completely pushes for either cancellation of NAFTA, or complete renegotiation, his words are as empty as his actions.


This is the best and most legitimate criticism I have seen on this thread...

In fact I think trade is the ONE thing both persuasions can agree upon almost across the board - I think this
point is absolutely vital to the survival of America... Obama supporters need to find a way to hold his feet to the
fire on this one.

CONSERVATIVES - are there ANY of you who would oppose reassessing the notion of free international trade?



If so why?

Heard of Fair Trade?

posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 09:24 PM

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Obama's father left when he was TWO. How much of an impact did he have over the toddler's political opinions?

I don't know how one would measure that, normally. But, in this case, enough for him to write a 403 page book about it.

posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 11:40 PM

Originally posted by lee anoma

Originally posted by witness63
Obama inherited a country that was already in terminal decline, like the old British Empire, and that's not a lot that can be done about it.

Sadly people refuse to acknowledge this fact.
I can't tell if it is on purpose or they actually believe he caused this mess.

Either way, it is an error in the thinking process.

- Lee

"Inherited" it? NO! He actively campaigned, and BEGGED for it. Now he's got it, and still tries to throw the blame elsewhere, ANYWHERE else.

Yeah, he's got it, is accelerating the decline, and guess who's gonna be left holding the bag? Bush? Clinton? Obama? Nope.


posted on Sep, 13 2010 @ 02:19 AM

Originally posted by babybunnies

The REAL nightmare is Palin/Beck 2012. It could happen. The REALLY, REALLY scary version is that they have enough popular backing amongst far right Republicans and are big enough household names that they would probably win.

For socialists/communists it would be a real nightmare sure...

Are you that silly, naive actress, what's her name?... The one with the chin of a horse... Sarah Jessica Parker...

Originally posted by babybunnies
November 2012 - USA Election. December 2012 - Aztec "End of the World". Coincidence? I don't think so!

First of all, the end of the callendar shows THE END OF A CYCLE.... not that the world will end that day...

Second of all, THE REAL PROPHECIES, and not the new age version which is wrong, say that the time of tribulation and suffering begins when the Sakwa Sohu Katsina/Kachina, which would appear as a blue (literally green/blue) star that would "shed it's mask" as it is done in the Hopi dances, and this would signal the beginning of the tribulation/suffering which would intensify until the Red Kachina appears in the sky. The appearance of the Red Kachina would bring even worse changes to those who are not prepared

The Blue Kachina appeared in 2007 and it was comet Holmes which part of it's exterior exploded, and expanded and it's brightness intensified half a million times what it was originally, and at that time it became the largest object in the Solar System, becoming larger than the Sun.

So you see, the real prophecies do not coincide with your "rightwing nightmare"...

posted on Sep, 13 2010 @ 06:08 AM
reply to post by jdub297

"Are Barack Obama’s “Dreams” Ruining America?"

No, it is his nightmares that are ruining America!

posted on Sep, 13 2010 @ 08:55 AM
I strongly believe Obama was a puppet president installed by the globalist elite in the White House to accelerate the destruction of the United States. He is like an Antichrist figure, and one put forth to pacify the masses, regardless of political stripe.

posted on Sep, 13 2010 @ 09:35 AM
reply to post by jdub297

Please. America was so far in the crapper the 20 thousand leagues under the sea team could not dive that far down and pull us out. Obama is keeping our heads just above water. You want to see dreams dashed? Wait until the November election plays out.
I recently purchased a home in Costa Rica. Let the GOP get their hands on the US and finish what they started.
I won't be McDonalds, Phizer, Coke, Monsanto's or anyone's slave.

edit on 13-9-2010 by rusethorcain because: spelling mistake

posted on Sep, 13 2010 @ 07:19 PM

Originally posted by rusethorcain
reply to post by jdub297
Please. America was so far in the crapper the 20 thousand leagues under the sea team could not dive that far down and pull us out. Obama is keeping our heads just above water. You want to see dreams dashed? Wait until the November election plays out.

OH, so what do you want to lay at his predecessors' doorsteps?

TARP and bank bailouts? It was Obama's Treasury that OK'd the obscene 2009 and 2010 bonuses for AIG, BoA and CITI moguls. Obama endorsed the TARP as a candidate as far back as 2008.

Housing and mortgage generosity? Clearly, Fannie and Freddie's policies were set during the Clinton administration; and Obama has tried various machinations to "save" the losers who tried unsuccessfully to take advantage of the market. He's done NOTHING to fix the market, but seeks to perpetuate the pillaging of the treasury with continued support of FHA, FNMA and FHMLC give-away policies at OUR expense.

Job loss? His $800 billion "stimulus" and subsequent additions have done nothing to improve private employment; they've boosted the outlook for public and union employees at everyone else's expense.
I recently purchased a home in Costa Rica. Let the GOP get their hands on the US and finish what they started.
I won't be McDonalds, Phizer, Coke, Monsanto's or anyone's slave.

Enough of the political and fiscal failures ot this administration.

What did HE SAY? What did his father espouse?

Complete ransacking of the remaining islands of wealth, whether in corporate or private hands. Why else take and maintain ownership of GM, AIG, BoA, CITI et al?

To maintain CONTROL!

Obama's only concern is with asserting government control over key aspects of American life and business, then manipulating them to effect the "cure" he and his father envisioned.

Read his books; look at his record. Read the LINK (that's why it is there) and you will see what Obama wanted, "inherited," and intends.

None of them are good for a capitalist republic.

posted on Sep, 13 2010 @ 10:39 PM
reply to post by jdub297

Oh yes of course! It would have been MUCH better if Obama let the global economy completely tank! You conservatives all would have surely patted him on the back rather than criticized him endlessly like you are now.

Seriously, get real. Most of the deficit, bailouts, and economic woes were already comin down the pipeline when Obama took office. While personally I would have rather he let the banks fail... you have to realize that as the president of the United States, he would have been lynched if he let this happen.... ESPECIALLY by right-wingers. I'm not quite an Obama supporter... but it's completely true that no matter what he does, the right-wing will criticize him for it, over-exaggerate the negative (or completely make it up), and seek his utter destruction. The right-wing has no credibility, decency, or sense of honesty... and I will defend Obama against that kind of propaganda while reserving the right to criticize him LEGITIMATELY on points that actually make sense and reflect reality (and not a political battle).

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posted on Sep, 13 2010 @ 11:15 PM
reply to post by NoHierarchy

Oh yes of course! It would have been MUCH better if Obama let the global economy completely tank! You conservatives all would have surely patted him on the back rather than criticized him endlessly like you are now.

So, a government takeover of GM, installation of admin puppets as executives and free-flow of tax dollars in support is preferable to delaying the inevitable? Giving control of Chrysler to union lackeys at the expense of Constitutionally-protected lenders like teacher and police pensions is better than allowing the law and markets to dictate survival and viability?

Propping up Goldman-Sachs, AIG, CITI and BoA and their bonus-fattened executives with taxpayer $$ helps us?

The "global economy?" Get real. Obama's only effect upon the global economy has been his willingness to subjugate the free market and investor rights to the will of the masses and some foreign consensus. Name one of HIS policies that served to protect the "global economy."

Instead, he has extended the invisible hand, not of the market - but of the government, into business, energy, education, finance, manufacturing, labor and health care to an extent never before seen here.

And you, and the other Obama idolizers, are thrilled at his intervention and injection of government influence into every aspect of our lives.

Some people want government to provide all their necessities for them at others' expense; others prefer to have earned and shaped them for themselves.

Obama's actions thus far are only the beginning of what he hopes to achieve in his transformation of America into a society of beholden leeches. He has no intention of performing any global rescue, much less an American one.

Barack Obama sees capitalist America as an evil that must be strangled into submission, yet a fountain of resources to bleed dry in the quest for the realization of his "dreams."

posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 02:59 AM

Originally posted by NoHierarchy
Oh yes of course! It would have been MUCH better if Obama let the global economy completely tank! You conservatives all would have surely patted him on the back rather than criticized him endlessly like you are now.

You people are so naive, and gullible I don't know whether to feel sorry for you or to hate you even more for wanting to give the Obama administration more power and in the process for you helping destroy America more... And you people just want to do it because he is half black, not for anything else...

For the inauguration of Obama, his office, and him spent more money THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM, and they did this KNOWING the country was in an economic depression... Yet you people want to claim that he, and his administration care for the people?...

Alongside the many other draconian programs being passed, or that have been already signed as law by PROGRESSIVES and Obama include H.R. 1388...

In H.R.1388 the PROGRESSIVES and Obama are giving power to something they call "the Corporation", and in the bill, would first be making a centralized electronic citizenship verification system which would allow the Corporation to share employment eligibility information with the Department of Education. This means this "Corporation" whatever this corporation is would decide who can have grants, and who can't and they would then give their consent to the "Department of Education"... So socialists, i mean err liberals, you shouldn't worry as long as you hail the new Hitler and do as he, and his PROGRESSIVES say...

Then again in that same bill they call for REQUIRED Community Service...something many of you at first were claiming we were making it up, but then after it passed we started hearing more, and more from socialists, i mean Liberals claiming "this is good for the nation"... After all Obama and Rham themselves claim doig this is what it means to be an American right?... Being forced to do Community Service is what ti means to be an American....


Section 122 is amended to read as follows:


`(a) Required National Service Corps- The recipient of a grant under section 121(a) and each Federal agency operating or supporting a national service program under section 121(b) shall, directly or through grants or subgrants to other entities, carry out or support the following national service corps, as full- or part-time corps, including during the summer months, to address unmet educational, health, veteran, or environmental needs:


The Thomas link is only temporary but you can search for it on that site and it will come up.

As to who exactly they want to do REQUIRED/MANDATORY Community Service?... Rham Emanuel said everyone in one capacity or another would be required to do this. I know socialists, I mean Liberals think that being FORCED by Obama and his thugs is good, but that IS NOT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE AN AMERICAN....and this is quite simply a DRACONIAN MEASURE BY SOCIALISTS/PROGRESSIVES AKA LIBERALS...

Then there is H.R. 1444...

(5) The effect on the Nation, on those who serve, and on the families of those who serve, if all individuals in the United States were expected to perform national service or were required to perform a certain amount of national service.


6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.

Sure socialists, err liberals/progressives/ will be very fair to have MANDATORY service instead of allowing each and every American DECIDE FOR HIM OR HERSELF...

(7) The need for a public service academy, a 4-year institution that offers a federally funded undergraduate education with a focus on training future public sector leaders.

WOOHOO... let's brainwash and indoctrinate our future leaders so they can become as good future Fuhrer's as Obama and his thugs...

Here is a link to the actual bill for all you socialists, err i mean liberals/progressives/democrats...

So keep cheering for the new Fuhrer, and his thugs, after all they are doing it for "the good of all, and the good of the nation" right?....

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posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 06:27 AM

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Obama's father left when he was TWO. How much of an impact did he have over the toddler's political opinions?

Basic psychology .... he's over compensating towards the rolling stone black daddy who left him. He's trying to live up to what his father would have wanted. Subconciously .... earn back daddys approval. The fact that daddy left had .. and still has ... a HUGE impact on him. HUGE. He never worked through that issue. It's obvious in his books.

posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 09:05 AM
reply to post by FlyersFan

I am having issues with my mother. Do you make house calls?

posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 09:30 AM
The president's plan he promised you is right out of his books he has written. Surprise to those who do not read and voted for him. The change or transformation has long since started that he is implementing upon you. The change you will have left over will be a few coins that rattle in you pocket to remind you of how great this change is to the USA. Are you depressed yet? Don't worry there are plans for you to fit right into the Greatest Depression with the rest of the World. Spend spend spend print print print more money. Pay it back are you kidding me lets go on lavish vacations and have more lavish parties. ^Y^

edit on 14-9-2010 by amari because: spelling

posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 01:49 PM
reply to post by amari

Well I don't think about killing myself anymore now that the country has at least a 4 year reprieve from the sick and dangerous agenda the GOP had been pushing down our collective throats for the past decade.

Not yet, but at least I can unclench my jaw, loosen my fist and breathe a little easier.

posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 05:32 PM
reply to post by rusethorcain

Yes, I agree the Republican administration spent money like there was no tomorrow. Here is the ultimate test do you want government controlling your money or do you want to control your own hard earned money? ^Y^

posted on Sep, 14 2010 @ 05:47 PM
reply to post by amari

If this were the ultimate test amari the answer would be easy. But it is a whole lot more complicated than that.

Here is who is running our country. Now three guesses who is handing them free reign in return for more bribe money than it would take to turn the Pope into an atheist.

Yeah, they give out Happy Meals but not necessarily happiness.

posted on Sep, 15 2010 @ 02:11 AM
reply to post by rusethorcain

Phew, the ignorance of some people really keeps showing...Meanwhile in some instances you might be right, there is the fact that of course since you are a liberal or socialist or progressive/democrat, you are ignoring and dismissing what the liberal/socialist Supreme court Justices have said publicly...

Let's start with Liberal Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, shall we?...

In an interview with the New York Times, Ginsburg admitted that abortion is about getting rid of certain types of people that the elite do not want to have around:

"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we dont want to have too many of."

And this is what other rich liberals/socialists/progressives/democrats are doing...

May 24, 2009

Billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation
America's richest people meet to discuss ways of tackling a 'disastrous' environmental, social and industrial threat

John Harlow, Los Angeles
SOME of America’s leading billionaires have met secretly to consider how their wealth could be used to slow the growth of the world’s population and speed up improvements in health and education.

The philanthropists who attended a summit convened on the initiative of Bill Gates, the Microsoft co-founder, discussed joining forces to overcome political and religious obstacles to change.

Described as the Good Club by one insider it included David Rockefeller Jr, the patriarch of America’s wealthiest dynasty, Warren Buffett and George Soros, the financiers, Michael Bloomberg, the mayor of New York, and the media moguls Ted Turner and Oprah Winfrey.

But unlike you I admit that there are some people even in the right that want this, the left for the most part are more vocal and seem to be more radical about it.

We have even seen that Obama does not care about the elderly AT ALL...

Via Megan McArdle (HT - James Joyner), in this video we see President Obama telling a woman whose now-105-year-old mother got a pacemaker five years ago that, under Obamacare, we might just give old ladies a pain killer instead.

This is eugenics, which is part of socialism, as well as rationing even when not needed. The socialist ideals call for rationing of everything to the point that people barely get any food. This is what happens in countries like Cuba, China, Vietnam, etc, etc.

Liberals/socialists/progressives/democrats are embracing ideals which have always brought nothing more than suffering, and oppression to the people.

At first these ideals and principles "look fantastic"...more so when you can't read between the lines and the fine print...

Then slowly but surely the fine print and what the elites meant starts to become reality and it ALWAYS turn up bad for the people.

To those not aware of the facts, of history, and who are naive enough to believe the call of "the need of the many outweight the needs of the one", the truth of socialism/communism is not apparent to them until it is too late.

Dictatorships start like that, one pace at a time. Individualism is frowned upon and even rejected for "the good of the many"... The only problem is that by embracing "the good of the many", the many which in socialism/communism is THE PARTY/STATE, individual freedoms are trampled, and in reality this means the freedom of EVERYONE is trampled "for the good of the many/state/party"...

Yet so many in the left have been brainwashed so much that they don't see anything wrong with being FORCED by the government to do things such as "Community Service"...

The democrats/progressives/liberals in power have even included children for their FORCED Community Service...and this should be a decision OF THE PARENTS, and not of the STATE/GOVERNMENT...

Yet you people can't see what is wrong with this picture...

I fear for this country and for our people...

Too many Americans are too naive believing all of these policies by progressives "are good for the people" when in reality they only serve the elites to get more control over us...

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