Yet Another Martian Anomaly

Been away from it for awhile, perhaps you noticed

But I feel its time to pull up another Martian Anomaly. This one was originally found by Skipper from Mars Anomaly Research.Yeah Yeah I can hear you groaning already BUT before you flush the baby with the bathwater... do have a look...

The Case of the Moving Rock
Exhibit 1
Spirit Panoramic Camera Sol 1833



NASA SOURCE IMAGE

CLIP 1



In this image taken on Sol 1833 the 'rock' in question is right in the center of the group of boulders.

Exhibit 2
Spirit Panoramic Camera Sol 1836



NASA SOURCE IMAGE

CLIP 2



But three days later, on Sol 1836, the 'rock is nowhere to be seen, certainly not where it was in the first photo, nor in the second marked space...

Exhibit 3
Spirit Panoramic Camera Sol 1843



NASA SOURCE IMAGE

CLIP 3



But then, 7 days later, the 'rock' reappears on the left side of the group of boulders. Now I asked ArMap his opinion and he told me it wasn't movement, it was merely different perspective. I am willing to give him a 'do over' on that opinion in case he was mistaken about which images I was refering to. All the original images are linked direct to NASA go see for yourselves

This case was discovered by Skipper from Mars Anomaly Research. I know how many of you feel about his site, but this time he has a winner. Skippers work can be found here: MARS MOVING EVIDENCE Report 163

I am patiently waiting to hear the skeptics explain this one.

Very hard to explain indeed. I do not know much about images and such, but I find this hard to explain. Only thing I could think of would be movement by a water source. We know there is water, but it would be easy to see if the amount of water needed to move that rock was present.

Also, the rock n the right of the photo is very unique. It would be easy to see a difference in angles, if that where the case.

I patiently await a "real" answer. Thanks for posting!

Thought this one was pretty good too, so since it is another one from Skipper might as well toss it in here. This is a tiny 'object' but bright and shiny.

Helmet like Anomaly
Spirit Panoramic Camera Sol 1526



The anomaly is found right at the bottom, center of the image...





This anomaly that looks like a discarded helmet is very reflective compared to the surrounding rocks. This item was brought to my attention in another thread on ATS, from a link to Skippers Mars Anomaly Research. Looking at his site he gives credit to the discovery to Michael Middleton of Australia. Skippers work on this anomaly can be found here: SPIRIT ROVER HEADS & STUFF Report #143

The original image posted at the top of the page is available from NASA 2P261833662EFFAY00P2298L7M1



The anomaly appears in the color version as well as several other shots in the series but the top b&w image has the clearest detail. Other images in the series can be found here: NASA Sol 1526

reply to post by zorgon


I keep an eye on his site quite often and sometimes he might post up a good one like this but mostly its speculation and shadows.

I give him his due he does work hard at it.

Very interesting, thanks for posting. This is one I have never seen, I would go for the different veiw as being the reason, only they are missing alltogether in the one pic! Does Nasa give and explaination for this?

reply to post by zorgon


Wierd, it looks like the same rock...
Does the rover move rocks to get to samples?

Also, what is that triangular shadow/hole that appears just to the left of your yellow box in clip 3?
It wasn't there in clip 2..

And there's a pyramid shaped rock front middle that appears to be almost floating..
Maybe resting on other unseen smaller rocks...

s&f

C3PO has lost his head again

wow!!!! I'm impressed!!!

any ideas ?? One looks like some kind of Steampunk robot head!!!

the other is possibly some kind of weird Martian land anemone!!

dear me ?? I just want an explanation for anything anything at at all everyday I get to add to my list of questions but my list of answers is getting pretty tiny

reply to post by zorgon


Another possible piece of the puzzle - one he claims to have evidence for but not the fortitude to throw it out there...talkin' about warfare.


As he points out on his site, he states that he has uncovered proof of past wars on that planet...I've sent him a few emails asking why he refuses to "release" this information - his response is that it would be too large of a leap for the complacent minds residing on this planet.


I pointed out that he should play his hand before it's too late, even threw in a comment focusing on his age and wanting to see the "fruits of his labors", but to no avail...he still refuses. Must be some good stuff - can't wait..!

reply to post by zorgon


Hi there! Awesome thread, with awesome pics with a awesome possibility of this being something quite interesting. On another note, would care to explain to me why do I see some rather weird "astronaut footprint" prints on the bottom right of the Exhibit 2 Spirit Panoramic Camera Sol 1836 picture? Am I seeing things here or is there a possible explanation for that one?
Thanks!
Regards,

ringht_n_wrong

Originally posted by facelift
reply to post by zorgon

 

Another possible piece of the puzzle - one he claims to have evidence for but not the fortitude to throw it out there...talkin' about warfare.


As he points on his site, he states that he has uncovered proof of past wars on that planet...I've sent him a few emails asking why he refuses to "release" this information - his response is that it would be too large of a leap for the complacent minds residing on this planet.


I pointed out that he should play his hand before it's too late, even threw in a comment focusing on his age and wanting to see the "fruits of his labors", but to no avail...he still refuses. Must be some good stuff - can't wait..!

edit on 11-9-2010 by facelift because: (no reason given)

I have done the exact same thing and to be honest I do not no if he is full of BS or he has the evidence? just frustrates me why he wont come forward with it.

Or has he upset somene and now has a gun to his head?

Originally posted by zorgon
CLIP 3

Reminds me of this:
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c3d6233d6687.jpg[/atsimg]

Welcome back old boy. Glad to see you back!

reply to post by zorgon


The mystery of the missing Martian rock, dun dun duh!!!

Not sure what to make of it. Could NASA have removed the rock with editing software? I'm sort of at a loss on that one

Edit to Add: Apparently ArMap solved this one already and it isn't a mysterious moving martian rock at all.

I'm not so impressed by the helmet/skull looking photo, that could just as easily be a reflective rock with indentations that make it look a bit like a helmet or skull thanks to Pareidolia.

reply to post by zorgon


Zorgon.....

Well I've looked at that a few times now & it is a bit odd.

Some initial thoughts.....& no doubt things that you've already considered.....

- Could it be a "shadow effect", that changes at different times during the day? (.....& no, it doesn't look much like that)

- Could it be a "soft" object or piece of insulation material or similar that has become detached from the vehicle?

As for Armap's conclusion regarding "perspective".....

I would have thought that for "perspective" to cause that apparent movement, the object would have to be quite close to the vehicle. But that appears not to be the case.....it appears to be more distant than those prominent rocks.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Edit by Maybe...maybe not to add:

Having seen ArMaP's GIF's (below), it seems highly likely the apparent movement is caused by perspective, but I had my ideas about the perspective quite "back-to-front".

Originally posted by space cadetDoes Nasa give and explanation for this?

No NASA doesn't ever explain anomalies... if they say nothing, they don't have to tell a lie

I would love to drag Jim Oberg in on this one.

As to the angle of the view, the distance the object moves is to large to be explained by that, and as you say, its GONE between day 1833 and 1843. I love this one!!

reply to post by zorgon


Nice blue skies on this one picture you posted! I wonder if mars is really all that "hostile" Judging by this picture it would be real hard to believe that there no life in mars
S&F for ya buddy! Great job!

ringht_n_wrong

The moving rock is quite a bit further away than you may think, increasing the effects of parallax and perspective. The rock didn't move, the rover did. The rock was merely hidden in the frame where it is "missing". As Armap demonstrated here:
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reply to post by facelift


Its not about Skipper. I also do not agree with all his findings.

It's about THIS moving object.

Now you see it... now you don't... now you do...

He is mentioned as required to give credit where due as the discoverer. Please focus on the image not the discoverer.

Originally posted by zorgon
reply to post by facelift

 

Its not about Skipper. I also do not agree with all his findings.

It's about THIS moving object.

Now you see it... now you don't... now you do...

He is mentioned as required to give credit where due as the discoverer. Please focus on the image not the discoverer.

If you post an image from his site and mention him of course members will chat about Skipper its just natural.

reply to post by Phage


Phage.....

I have inserted ArMaP's GIF's for purposes of interest & convenience.






Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not