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Originally posted by operation mindcrime
All I see is a bunch of angry men expressing their opinion...!?!
Just a bunch of angry men with issues....
Originally posted by Gentill Abdulla
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You act like you know what has happened there or what continues to happen there. The government has a tight grip on media sources as well as what people are allowed to say about the government.
FACE IT THE ONLY ONE WITH LACK OF BRAINS IN THIS SITUATION IS YOU!!!
But guess you wouldn't know that. It is people like you who make me feel sorry to call myself a human being sometimes.
Deny ignorance ATS!
I find it hilarious that most people on here are "anti government" and "anti media manipulation" but are being manipulated by the VERY Government and Media they claim to abhor when they are posting things like how much they hate and fear Muslims.
Do you know WHY you hate Muslims? Beause you've been INDOCTRINATED by the Western Media into believing that Muslims are bad and evil.
Most people in Muslim nations are NOT actually practising Muslims, similar in that most people in Catholic nations are not actually practising Catholics.
We should be celebrating the differences and diversities in human culture, not trying to crush them.
We should be taking away those differences, we already have skin colour, race, hair colour, favourites football team.
Originally posted by Acharya
Originally posted by Gentill Abdulla
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You act like you know what has happened there or what continues to happen there. The government has a tight grip on media sources as well as what people are allowed to say about the government.
FACE IT THE ONLY ONE WITH LACK OF BRAINS IN THIS SITUATION IS YOU!!!
But guess you wouldn't know that. It is people like you who make me feel sorry to call myself a human being sometimes.
Deny ignorance ATS!
Im sorry that your people suffer. In Norway we don't really have problems with Etiopians but with Somalians etc.
Originally posted by 3vilscript
Originally posted by pjslug
Yes, apparently these pictures were left out of the American and European media and were taken by a Canadian. Someone sent the e-mail to my grandmother and she sent it to me, so I'm not sure of the origin but they speak for themselves.
Post some pictures of the crusaders killing a bunch of people... you have any of those? Or any pictures of the Jews as they were leaving Egypt and people were "giving" them their worldly possessions because they were "God's people." Post some pictures of how in the name of God cities were destroyed.... oh the camera wasn't invented yet... but I hear those stories are well documented in some book somewhere. Why don't you post some pictures of how New Orleans was destroyed because God could not stand the sin.... or Haiti... I seem to remember a few religious (Christian) leaders rationalizing all that pain and suffering in this manner. Post some pictures of the thousands of Native Americans killed because they had "devils" in them. All in the name of our dear Lord.
That god some of you pray to at night, the same god you think is so much better than theirs, is as bad if not worse than theirs. And I'll tell you why. It's because he is a product of your troubled minds, trying to justify your insecurities.
I have no doubt there is a God, no doubt. I also have no doubt that he is terribly disgusted at what we have become.
[edit on 8/22/2010 by 3vilscript]
Originally posted by awake_and_aware
Originally posted by babybunnies
Do you know WHY you hate Muslims? Beause you've been INDOCTRINATED by the Western Media into believing that Muslims are bad and evil.
Utter nonsense.
No, it's called learning what the QuRan says, looking at what "radical" Muslims are doing, look at their laws, looking at their manifestos, lookig at the reason people are blowing themselves uplooked how they want to impose Shariah law on us, looking at the punishment for apostasy.
How dare you say i have been indoctrinated by the West, i don't read Newspapers or watch BBC/SKY/CNN/MSM and I still came up with the conclusion that i dislike Islam.
Originally posted by awake_and_aware
Relating to the topic, and my questions to any Muslim who truely follows his "perfect" book are as follows:-
What's the punishment for Apostasy in Islam?
Does Islam WANT to dominate the world?
Do Muslims want to spread Shariah law across the world?
Do Muslims believe in evolution?
Why does Allah condone stoning of women and men as punishment? does Allah not believe in rehabilitation and nuture?
This was edited out of your post: "And not only have you shown yourself to be a racist, but also an ignorant bigot."
Please refrain from attacks like this in the future. These types of posts can and will be removed in the future.
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Originally posted by babloyi
I started going through the verses (or technically the "explanations" of the verse numbers) you posted, but I quickly realised that every one of them was either (at best) unintentionally mistranslated, or (at worst) intentionally misleading. I strongly suggest you review your sources.
Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
reply to post by ollncasino
I think this is the original verse of 3/118
3:118 O you who believe, do not befriend outsiders who never cease to wish you harm; they even wish to see you suffer. Hatred flows out of their mouths and what they hide in their chests is far worse. We thus clarify the revelations for you, if you understand.
Originally posted by awake_and_aware
Any religion or political group spouting such nonsense doesn't deserve respect in our civilisations, especially when they are dividing them with fantasies and strict rules that they consider the word of Allah.
Originally posted by ollncasino
I think it is disingenious to make such an accusation of poor translation without any evidence at all.
We have had good translations of the Koran in English for about 150 years and interestingly, Muslims don't deny the content of those verses so it is fascinating that you do.
I suggest you prove your accusation.
Originally posted by ollncasino
Originally posted by awake_and_aware
Any religion or political group spouting such nonsense doesn't deserve respect in our civilisations, especially when they are dividing them with fantasies and strict rules that they consider the word of Allah.
That's the thing. A large proprtion of these outraged 'Liberals' are actually Muslims.
Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
reply to post by ollncasino
Do you agree it's pointless to be critical of others religion? What is your belief in life? How would you find it if I criticized the way you live? Tell me!