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Originally posted by cupocoffee
please explain to me why I should risk my life
Originally posted by atlasastro
reply to post by cupocoffee
Any progress yet Cupoputuporshutup.
Started a thread on getting a crew together to research the unit?
Have you even Got the power unit yet?
Or are you still watching greer video's?
Put up.
Simple.
Put up or shut up. simple.
Originally posted by cupocoffee
reply to post by atlasastro
No, nope, negative, and no.
Oh! Now its ATS's fault!
No one on ATS volunteered to help me, my generous offers to donate the technology for testing got ignored.
Seriously, man, please explain to me why I should risk my life and spend thousands and thousands of dollars of my savings to do this when no one cares anyway?
Millions of nobodies around the world are working on many solutions in order to meet our energy needs. For example, Newcastle University in Northern NSW, Australia recently revealed a new solar energy system involving semi conducting polymers, this will increase the surface area compared to existing silicon solar panelling systems whilst reducing the costs, energy and materials required for production. So we are getting even closer to free, or at the very least, really cheap and accessible solar energy.
Don't worry, someone else with much more power and influence than me will get it done. I'm a nobody.
I'll quote you in order to respond to this comment.
Maybe Greer will get it done. Maybe Greer will get the Rock's house running on a free energy generator to show the world. Free Energy Rocks!!
No, nope, negative, and no.
Then again, maybe that anomalous pink cloud of energy over there is Shari Adamiak's soul, watching over me from beyond!
Adamiak's cancer was first diagnosed in June of 1997. At that time, she elected to undergo a variety of alternative therapies rather than submit to surgery, radiation or chemo-therapy. She expressed strong confidence that she would recover.
Originally posted by atlasastro
Ten years, 3 companies, hundreds of claims, numerous assertions that a "working model is nearly available", countless references to "top scientists and engineers".
Actual results. Zero.
Maybe Greer will get it done, you say?
No, nope, negative, and no.
So now its life threatening. What a joke.
Say this to yourself until it sinks in.
I am an As Soul.
I am an AS Soul.
I am an As Soul.
I guess you didn't realize that I was too, oh! The irony.
I guess you didn't realize I was being sarcastic.
Please keep you sexual habits to yourself.
Maybe Greer will get it done. Then again, maybe hell will freeze over and monkeys will come flying out of my butt!
And Bingo, we have a winner.
Yeah, real funny. I'm sure Eugene Mallove and Stan Meyer are laughing too.
Who said I was trying to change anything?
I know you are, but what am I?
Anyway, bait, taunt, ridicule and insult me all you like, it's not going to change anything.
I'm not worried about it. You are the one making the claims mate.
As you pointed out, there's a lot going on with alt energy, there are other groups out there making real progress, so, don't worry about it.
Originally posted by atlasastro
You just jumped the shark big time.
Anyone into the "free energy" topic knows that Meyer was a scam artist.
I'm not worried about it. You are the one making the claims mate.
Put up or shut up.
It is that simple.
Cranbury, NJ (March 23, 2010)—BlackLight Power, Inc. (BLP) today announced its seventh commercial license agreement, and first in Europe with GEOENERGIE SpA, Energy Subsidiary of Geogreen. In a non-exclusive agreement, BLP has licensed GEOENERGIE SpA to use the BlackLight Process and certain BLP energy technology for the production of thermal or electric power in Italy. GEOENERGIE SpA may produce gross thermal power up to a maximum continuous capacity of 750 MW or convert this thermal power to corresponding electricity.
You jumped the shark when you injected the "water buggy man".
Originally posted by cupocoffee
No, I would not say that "anyone" or "everyone" "knows" that. Please speak for yourself only.
Please speak for yourself.
Many people say
What seems suspicious to me is that you will go on hearsay, and the desperate correlation of his death with his activities rather than any real evidence. That is suspicious.
that his technology did work and he was very close to cutting a deal, then he died very suddenly outside a restaurant one day. Well, gee, that seems kind of suspicious to me!
Once agin, you seem to correlate the manner of his death with some kind of link to his work.
And I notice you didn't say anything about Mallove. He was brutally murdered, that is a well known fact.
ZZZZZZzzzzzzzz. Were is the free energy mate.
As far as I'm concerned there are several groups that have already "put up".
Blacklight Power are already licensing out their technology and have already had at least six commercial deals now.
John Bedini has released patents, schematics, books, videos, open-source kits, everything. His latest 10-coil kit comes with all the parts, schematic diagrams, instructions, everything.
What am I not believing in? You have nothing to show.
Now if you choose not to believe in it, if you choose to believe that they are hoaxers or scammers or whatever, well that is your choice, isn't it?
What a stupid question to ask as you assert it.
We are all entitled to our own opinion, aren't we?
It seems that you don't even know what you are talking about.
If you guys don't believe yet, it's not my job to convince you.
Bearden and Bedini also happen to be connected to Greer, and they are selling free energy devices now. We're all about seeking truth and denying ignorance here, so shouldn't we test out these devices?
Same thing with the Bedini motors and energizers. I respect people who do the field work and try building the thing and see if it works. I don't respect people who jump to the conclusion that it's a fraud without doing any field work.
Cranbury, NJ (March 23, 2010)—BlackLight Power, Inc. (BLP) today announced its seventh commercial license agreement, and first in Europe with GEOENERGIE SpA, Energy Subsidiary of Geogreen. In a non-exclusive agreement, BLP has licensed GEOENERGIE SpA to use the BlackLight Process and certain BLP energy technology for the production of thermal or electric power in Italy. GEOENERGIE SpA may produce gross thermal power up to a maximum continuous capacity of 750 MW or convert this thermal power to corresponding electricity.
You have shown me a press release.
There, see? I "put up" just for you, atlas. Happy now?
14 September 2010-- Canada is projected to install 754 MW of new wind energy capacity by the end of 2010, representing $1.7 billion (US$1.66 billion) in new investment, the Canadian Wind Energy Association (CanWEA) said during the World Energy Congress 2010 in Montreal. This will bring Canada’s total installed wind energy capacity to 4,073 MW.
www.blacklightpower.com...
One comprises a multi-tube thermally interacting bundle of cells wherein cells producing power provide heat to those undergoing regeneration. As a system, the power output is constant. The capital costs are projected to be about $1400/kW electric. The other comprises an array of reactors wherein power and regeneration chemistries occur synchronously, and each cell outputs constant power. The capital costs are projected to be about $1050/kW electric. A third design called CIHT utilizes many options of tested chemistry and comprises the direct production of electrical power from the formation of hydrinos. The capital costs are projected to be about $25/kW electric with no infrastructure requirements, and the system is deployable for essentially any application at any scale.
• BlackLight is non-exclusively licensing its process to make power for a fixed royalty payment per kilowatt-hour of thermal or electric.
www.blacklightpower.com...
• The hydrogen fuel for the BlackLight Process could be obtained by diverting a fraction of the output energy of the process to power the electrolysis of water into its elemental constituents, hydrogen and oxygen gases. With water as the fuel, the operational cost of BlackLight Power generators is likely to be very inexpensive. Moreover, the process does not give rise to pollution, green-house gases, or radiation as conventional systems do.
Dude, all you have done is advertise con men.
Sure, it would be nice if ATS were to do its own free energy project, to help bring some much-needed publicity to a very important subject.
Put up or shut up.
Besides, suppose I do go build one of these 10-coil units and make a video, like this "MachineOfTime1" guy did. I can already hear the debunkers going, "Hoax! That's not proof of anything. There are hidden batteries in the system somewhere. You're not measuring things right. It's impossible! Conservation of energy! Laws of thermodynamics!" etc etc etc.
I guarantee you no one will ever "prove" Free Energy to the complete satisfaction of everyone on here. Especially when this site is teeming with professional debunkers......
About 30 minutes.
Originally posted by cupocoffee
How long did it take you to write that post atlas? An hour? Two? Three? Hmm?
They are agreements that are reliant of Blacklight actually working. Do you even know what a licensing agreement is?
Seven commercial licensing deals, seven different independent energy companies, and 750MW of continuous power, that IS quite a big deal isn't it?
That is what they HOPE.
As you said yourself, enough to power a MILLION homes. And all from WATER, which is supposed to be impossible!
So I am not surprised that you went to such great and desperate lengths to debunk at all.....
Because you have no points.
Anyway, I am not going to go point-for-point with you.
All you got is a short story dude, its called poor excuses.
Long story short, it is not my job to prove to you that BLP's technology works.
Nor is it my job to prove that Meyer's water buggy worked, or that Bedini's 10-coil unit works.
As I already said, if you CHOOSE to not believe in spite of all the evidence, well that is your choice! You are entitled to your own opinion; we all are. It's not my job to prove these things to you.
Chant "put up or shut up" all you like, I am not going to go spend thousands of dollars just to try to prove Free Energy to ONE GUY in a forum!
Wow, 750MW, SO MUCH POWER!!! Ahhhhh.....
Originally posted by atlasastro
They are agreements that are reliant of Blacklight actually working. Do you even know what a licensing agreement is?
It is only a legal right to use a patent or trademark, that is it.
All you need is a patent.
Meyer could have sign fifity million Licensing Agreements for his "water buggy".
Dude, just find me ONE Blackligth power utility working. Just one.
The claim is from water yes. Have they delivered?
No.
Thats because you cannot do it.
Because there is nothing to show but "press releases" and "youtube video's.
And you claim I'm desperate.
What evidence.
Oh, A press releases, and Youtube.
No its not actually.
You have no idea at all, really, do you.
That would power about 385,000 homes. Way short of Blacklight's claims of 1,000,000.
Originally posted by cupocoffee
reply to post by buddhasystem
And now the resident physics expert finally shows up to debunk!
Well, I am not a physics expert so I can't answer to anything you just said.
But these seven energy companies must be awfully stupid then, to license out a technology that doesn't even work? That BLP could manage to fool not just one but seven different energy companies, that is quite impressive.....
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Why am I not surprised.
Well, some companies were buying mortgage-backed securities and other such crap not a long time ago... Besides, nothing is known about what exactly has been licensed. It could be some heat exchanger that is based on real physics an not on this voodoo crap.
Source
Blue energy—or reverse electrodialysis (RED), its technical name—derives power from an unlikely source: energy released from the process of osmosis. Whenever two solutions of differing concentrations meet—tea and coffee, for example, or saltwater and fresh water—they blend so the concentration becomes equally distributed throughout. Pour tea and coffee into a single cup and you get, well, "toffee"; do the same with saltwater and fresh water and you get brackish water, in which salt is spread evenly within the solution. This process releases energy.