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posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
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Would be sort of like people in the Middle East blaming all Christians for the murders of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans because some Christians state that they're doing it for god and using weapons with annotations to bible verses on them? I hear those invaders use churches and military bases to recruit and train their extremists..even bases right in the Middle East.


Can you prove what you "hear"?

Thank you,
sl




posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by MY2Commoncentsworth
I am not trying to vilify Muslims, they do a hell of a job vilifying themselves.


Like I said, when you just start making things up it gets very hard to take you seriously. If I were you, I would give up at this point.


Between them and their supporters, they are doing just fine at causing suspicion and fear among the masses.


Really? Or are there just a whole lot of scaredy cats like yourself that are just more suspicious and afraid?
Take your BS 80% and go bark up another tree. You tossed all your credibility out the door.



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by Adevoc Satanae

Originally posted by spinalremain
I am a New Yorker and I can personally asure all of you that there are "cells" all over the 5 boroughs within Mosques. The police and the FBI are raiding them all the time. Where are you guys getting your data from?


Sources?


Mosques are IN FACT where the ideas get thrown around. It's where the radicals get together. Use your brains people. The sickos aren't renting out a VFW to plan an attack.


You do realize that undoes your agreement with Neo, right? See, there are already over 100 mosques in the area and according to you, they are already using those to plan terrorist attacks.

Can please explain why they would stop using the mosques you claim they are using now and move into the most highly publicized and scrutinized mosque in US history?



Sources??? - read the Daily News every morning. Since you do not, Google this - NYC mosque raided.

And yes since there are already lots of mosques being used to gather and discuss eliminating infadels, then sure logic would suggest "no big deal", right? Well I was merely trying to support his assertation that the mosques are being used as a meeting place for radicals. If they weren't, the FBI would not have them on their radar and raid them on a monthly basis. Queens seems to be the hottest borough of activity it seems over the last few years. In NY it is common knowledge that this is on going



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by spinalremain
Sources??? - read the Daily News every morning. Since you do not, Google this - NYC mosque raided.


No, you said

I am a New Yorker and I can personally asure all of you that there are "cells" all over the 5 boroughs within Mosques.


BACK IT UP.



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 08:46 AM
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You want me to list all 40 raids in order over the last 8 years?

Thats what you want? That would take me an hour of work to list to try an educate someone who obviously has all the answers already.

The fact that you need sources tells me that you live where these things do not go on. That said, you seem to know an awful lot and have a wide opinion on the subject. The fact that you need a source for the facts that NYC mosques get raided is completely laughable. It's like you haven't read a newspaper in the last decade, or you live outside the NY tri state area. Which is it?



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by spinalremain
You want me to list all 40 raids in order over the last 8 years?


Nope.

I want you to list the

"cells" all over the 5 boroughs within Mosques.


Why are you having so much trouble with this? These are your own words.



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 08:51 AM
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The cells do not have names. That's only in the movies, silly. Radical muslims are radical muslims. Outside most any NYC mosque at any time of day you will see a crown Victoria on the other side of the street. That is the police keeping an eye on your security. That's the supposed cell. The Daily News, The NY Post and the Wall Street Journal have these stories all the dam time. I'm just trying to teach you something that is part of everyday life here. Please don't be beligerant to prove a point. The point is that the metro area is filled with radical Muslims who want to harm innocent people. If you want to protect them and help them out then you are part of the problem.



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 08:56 AM
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Originally posted by spinalremain
The cells do not have names.


I do not need a "name." I just need whatever info lead you to make that claim. If you know them, there must be a way to provide that information here. Can you do it, or are you just saying things?

Mosques do have names though do they not? You said these cells are all in mosques. Name the mosques.

Just so you know, I am not really interested in anything else you have to say until you back up your claim. Thanks.

[edit on 9-8-2010 by Adevoc Satanae]



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 09:18 AM
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Soo me providing links from my mobile phone is the only way that you will believe me? I don't care if you dismiss my claims at all. I was reading this thread and saw that people were misinformed about the high level of suspicious mosque activity in NYC. Its just an ongoing thing. I was only trying to add my first hand knowledge of the subject. I see it all the time. Now since linkls are your all knowing proof then please just Google NY Daily News mosque raids. Or anything of the sort. If you need me to post links from my mobile device then you are just wanting to argue. I am curious though. Where do you live, that this type of stuff doesn't occur. I may want to move there.



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by Adevoc Satanae
Take your BS 80% and go bark up another tree. You tossed all your credibility out the door.


Oh you are right!....it's only 76%.


www.religioustolerance.org...
en.wikipedia.org...

Is your strategy aimed at making all of us waste our precious time arguing with your silly ass?......or is it more like the picture posted below?




Handsome little devil, isn't he Satanae?

[edit on 9-8-2010 by MY2Commoncentsworth]



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by MY2Commoncentsworth
Oh you are right!....it's only 76%.


Wrong again, it WAS 76% a decade ago when you got your information. Check the sources again.


Is your strategy aimed at making all of us waste our precious time arguing with your silly ass?......or is it more like the picture posted below?


Really, you believe there are terrorist cells all over NYC? Do you know where they are? How many? How active? Anything? If all I am doing, by asking for accuracy, is causing trouble then maybe you need a forum where people just believe things.

You said that the US is 80% Christian and the best you can do is show a flawed poll from 2001 that shows your number was indeed inflated. OK! Someone else says there are terrorist cells all over NYC and I ask for ANY PROOF AT ALL and I am just arguing. OK!


[edit on 9-8-2010 by Adevoc Satanae]



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 09:29 AM
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This is quite sad actually. You will remain to live in a world where you don't understand what's really going on because you werent provided links. LOS LIIIIIIINKS! . Sorry I couldn't help myself. I'll do you what you want. I made it all up everyone. Anyone who's curious about NYC mosque activity...... I made it all up. I have never read a newspaper article about a mosque raid or seen it first hand. . I am a Muslim hating man who trolls threads and makes lies. Mosques never have any suspicious activity and there are no links about such activity. To those who are open minded and adult....... NYC mosques are raided all the time and their surveylance is a part of everyday NY life. Just in case you want to know why this is such an issue. It is because mosques are a known hotbed of radical gathering activity. Please look into it yourselves. Needing me to provide the links is childish. I have better things to do than to lie to complete strangers. I was trying to just give my experience. But if Google is more believeable than a 30 yr NYer then you have issues.



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by spinalremain
Soo me providing links from my mobile phone is the only way that you will believe me?


Nope. You providing any evidence whatsoever. That is all I asked for. If you did not want to trouble yourself to back up your claim from your mobile phone, you should not have made you claim from your mobile phone.

Why does it bother you so much that I will not just believe some stranger on the internet? Do you think I have not checked? I checked. There is no evidence of terror cells all over NY so you are going to have to provide the proof of your claim. Real sorry that is such a problem.



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by spinalremain
This is quite sad actually.


No, what is sad is this...

I am a New Yorker and I can personally asure all of you that there are "cells" all over the 5 boroughs within Mosques.


and the fact that you have spent this many posts arguing against providing evidence of that claim. This is ATS and that is sad.



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 09:36 AM
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your ego is preventing you from learning about NY and the truth. I dont care what you believe or dont believe. Thats your gig. Just dont lie and tell us that you looked and could not find any articles pertaining to cells being in NYC. People may believe you. You are wrong and you lied. Terrorist cells reside in NYC and it is a problem. This is why NYC has a huge security budget now. It's a known fact. Good day.



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 09:36 AM
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your ego is preventing you from learning about NY and the truth. I dont care what you believe or dont believe. Thats your gig. Just dont lie and tell us that you looked and could not find any articles pertaining to cells being in NYC. People may believe you. You are wrong and you lied. Terrorist cells reside in NYC and it is a problem. This is why NYC has a huge security budget now. It's a known fact. Good day.



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 09:36 AM
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your ego is preventing you from learning about NY and the truth. I dont care what you believe or dont believe. Thats your gig. Just dont lie and tell us that you looked and could not find any articles pertaining to cells being in NYC. People may believe you. You are wrong and you lied. Terrorist cells reside in NYC and it is a problem. This is why NYC has a huge security budget now. It's a known fact. Good day.



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by Adevoc Satanae
You said that the US is 80% Christian and the best you can do is show a flawed poll from 2001 that shows your number was indeed inflated. OK! Someone else says there are terrorist cells all over NYC and I ask for ANY PROOF AT ALL and I am just arguing. OK!


What ever the numbers may be, it will still show that the overwhelming majority of Americans are Christians.

And I know somebody who works in "the security area". The information, Proof, that you are seeking is not readily available to the public, for obvious reasons. But I will say this.....if you knew how easy it is for terrorists to attack us and how close we are to a history changing event, you might have to take sleeping pills to go to bed at night.



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by MY2Commoncentsworth
What ever the numbers may be, it will still show that the overwhelming majority of Americans are Christians.


Unfortunately, that is not what you said and I still do not believe it is true. I know quite a few "Christians" but very few Christians. You know who these people are? They are the ones that answer "Christian" on a poll like that and then go back to their completely godless lives.

Having a hard time believing me? Look at prison populations. Children born out of wedlock by choice, the gay population, pornography sales, sex crime, hate crime, etc. Go look these numbers up and then come back and tell me that you still believe that 80% of this country is Christian.


And I know somebody who works in "the security area". The information, Proof, that you are seeking is not readily available to the public, for obvious reasons. But I will say this.....if you knew how easy it is for terrorists to attack us and how close we are to a history changing event, you might have to take sleeping pills to go to bed at night.


You do realize that if the proof is not available to me, it would be fraudulent for me to make that claim then, right? Please read your own words a few more times and see if you can understand what you just pointed out.



posted on Aug, 9 2010 @ 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by spinalremain
your ego is preventing you from learning about NY and the truth.


Being a New Yorker myself, I am asking you to help educate me. My ego is doing nothing to prevent you from backing up your claim. Just back it up or move on.





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