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It's the Oil Stupid!

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posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 08:33 AM
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Flashback: Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz just came right out and said it, that we invaded Iraq because it was swimming on a sea of oil. (And of course, OPEC was thinking about switching their trade currency to the Euro. Try putting that into a soundbite..) Why in the hell is this guy still employed? Bush sycophants, try defending this...

Mr Wolfowitz went on to tell journalists at the conference that the US was set on a path of negotiation to help defuse tensions between North Korea and its neighbours - in contrast to the more belligerent attitude the Bush administration displayed in its dealings with Iraq.

His latest comments follow his widely reported statement from an interview in Vanity Fair last month, in which he said that "for reasons that have a lot to do with the US government bureaucracy, we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on: weapons of mass destruction."


You can't.

Here's the link:
truthout.org...truthout.org...




posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 08:58 AM
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If you got to the "story" and click the source link you find that the alleged story was either deleted or never existed in the first place.

The original source is supposedly the Guardian.UK FYI.....


Confirmed the story was pulled check this out....

www.guardian.co.uk...



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 09:00 AM
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Go get a copy of Vanity Fair. I read it. He said it. He should be fired and probably shot for treason.

[edit on 19-09-2003 by EastCoastKid]



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 09:15 AM
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This is the full transcript here:
DefenseLink.mil

Look, the primarily difference -- to put it a little too simply -- between North Korea and Iraq is that we had virtually no economic options with Iraq because the country floats on a sea of oil. In the case of North Korea, the country is teetering on the edge of economic collapse and that I believe is a major point of leverage whereas the military picture with North Korea is very different from that with Iraq. The problems in both cases have some similarities but the solutions have got to be tailored to the circumstances which are very different.



I was against the Iraq war so I hope you don't think I'm trying to justify it.
Just trying to clarify his statements.

[edit on 18-6-2004 by AceOfBase]



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 09:23 AM
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You are a propaganda artist of the worst kind! Brilliant attempt to twist Wolfowitz's words and bring new meaning to his statement. Why must each and everyone one of your posts trot out some liberal/leftist rant that is either completely fabricated or twisted to the point of fiction?

Are you a paid DNC operative or are you just a willing volunteer?



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by kozmo
You are a propaganda artist of the worst kind! Brilliant attempt to twist Wolfowitz's words and bring new meaning to his statement. Why must each and everyone one of your posts trot out some liberal/leftist rant that is either completely fabricated or twisted to the point of fiction?

Are you a paid DNC operative or are you just a willing volunteer?


No doubt. I was thinking the same thing myself. Why should Wolfowitz be shot for treason? Because he was trying to get at more oil? I'm confused. What is your definition of treason?



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 09:34 AM
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agree with Eastcoast in that Wolfowitz should be shot



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 09:35 AM
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Wolfowitz wasn't trying to "Get at more oil." What Wolfowitz was saying is that their are different forces at work between Iraq and N. Korea. He merely pointed out that Iraq has the ability to succeed as a nation because it has the economic means to do so because "It is floating on a sea of oil" whereas N. Korea is amidst economic collapse.

I find it annoying, intersting, humorous etc... that the libs simply edit and paste snippets of quotes, assign their agenda to it's meaning and then trot it out en mass for the sheeple to gobble up.

Try reading the entire interview... not just what was selectively printed in Vanity Fair, and the bigger picture and over-all meaning of Wolfowitz's comments come into focus. However, I'm not expecting any of our liberal friends to take up that challenge.



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 09:40 AM
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Anyone who tries to defend Wolfowitz is right on par with him. There is no defending the indefensible. He comes straight out and says, yeah, we lied to you b/c we could and folks say I'm twisting his words?


You Wolfowitz-lovers need a shrink - BAD.

And no, I'm a card-carrying Republican, believe it or not. Not for long, tho. I've come to my senses. Neo Conservatives have infected ruined the party with their Nazi orthodoxy. They should be sent back to hell where they belong.



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 09:40 AM
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[edit on 19-09-2003 by EastCoastKid]



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 09:40 AM
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[edit on 19-09-2003 by EastCoastKid]



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 09:44 AM
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You are disillusioned beyond repair. There is no point in trying to enter into a debate with you as you respond with witty slogans (Read as TRIPE) and liberal reparte as opposed to facts. Your ad hominem style belies your inability to devlop a cogent and logical argument to support your assertions. Have fun operating as DNC disinformation specialist, you are quite good at it.



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 09:45 AM
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Kozmo,
Let me let you in on a little secret, we invaded Iraq because OPEC was getting close to changing their oil currency to the Euro. That would crash the U.S. economy. You can't fit that into a nice little soundbite to feed the sheep. I would suggest you look into that. As long as our boot is on OPEC's neck, they ain't gonna do jack.



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by kozmo
You are disillusioned beyond repair. There is no point in trying to enter into a debate with you as you respond with witty slogans (Read as TRIPE) and liberal reparte as opposed to facts. Your ad hominem style belies your inability to devlop a cogent and logical argument to support your assertions. Have fun operating as DNC disinformation specialist, you are quite good at it.


Whatever. You're ridiculously paranoid.



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 09:49 AM
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I agree that Wolfowitz is probably one of the worse nuisance that ever walked in the White House, and should be shot at a firing range, by famillies of soldiers who died in Irak.



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Go get a copy of Vanity Fair. I read it. He said it. He should be fired and probably shot for treason.

[edit on 19-09-2003 by EastCoastKid]


Shot for treason? For telling the truth? I can think of other people in our government that have committed treason. This guy not being one of them.



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by Indy

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Go get a copy of Vanity Fair. I read it. He said it. He should be fired and probably shot for treason.

[edit on 19-09-2003 by EastCoastKid]


Shot for treason? For telling the truth? I can think of other people in our government that have committed treason. This guy not being one of them.


No. He was instrumental in lying us into war. His purposes have nothing to do with what's good and right for America. He is a dual loyalist and cares nothing for our brave men and women in uniform he so wontonly sends to die. He boasted that we could take Iraq with only 48,000 troops. What kind of a monkey motherFukka would think such a thing? One whose NEVER served a day in his life in the military, that's who.

He has blood on his hands and he should pay.



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 10:00 AM
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AH. Gotcha. Well I guarantee you he didn't act alone. I think you can probably include the president, vice president and much of the cabinet on this one. Only difference between this guy and them is that he doesn't know when to shut up. I thought you meant to get rid of him for talking in Vanity Fair. All those involved in this war should be removed. They should at least have come up with a better story. Just say "Saddam is a bad man and he needs to go". People probably would have accepted that. Most people realized that this war was about oil and about keeping our domestic problems away from Bush and his ratings.



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 10:05 AM
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Gotcha? Gotcha what? Yeah, every last NEOCON in this administration should be driven the hell out of Washington politics forever. They are criminally insane. Every last one of them. They should be tried for war crimes.



posted on Jun, 18 2004 @ 10:16 AM
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Wolfowitz is saying why would the US have a 'corporate takeover' of North Korea if they are financially ruined? Iraq on the other hand is swimming in oil so that the investment of $millions (troops etc.) is worthwhile coz they'll get the money back and plenty more. Simple economics.

[edit on 18-6-2004 by Lexus Panther]

[edit on 18-6-2004 by Lexus Panther]



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