Originally posted by State of Mind
Why don't these women rise against their oppressors? Why have they taken so much abuse over the centuries?

Another question, what kind of father, or brother, or cousin can kill kin who has been raped, in the name of "honor killing"? For Christs (or Allahs) sake, what happened to protecting and loving your family? It's madness.

State of Mind, you sound so naive. Women have about as much power in a particular society as the MEN ALLOW.

The more intelligent and enlightened the men are, the more humanely the women are treated.

People who grow up within Radical Islam have been brainwashed into believing their ways are the "Ways of God." It's tragic. Thinking & questioning Islamic traditions are not allowed.

Why do you think it's against the law to criticize Muhammad & the Qu'ran in Islamic countries? Because in open societies where people are allowed to speak the truth, Muhammad & the Qu'ran would be torn apart & exposed for what they are.

SeaWind

Originally posted by felonius

Originally posted by Occy Anonymous
Islam is a newer religion then Christianity, and like any religion evolves seperately from society. 500 years ago Chrisitainity was in the exact same place, infact even worse off.

Give Islam another 200 years ago and it will be as "kind and equal" as Christainity is today.

You hold any religion to the same light as society and you're gonna see alot of ugly truths. This thread is so pointless, so many countries have horrible womens rights regardless of religion.

As for making that a reason to invade another country by your logic next stop should be Nepal or any african nation. But no that won't happen, because there's no profit there for them.

Another 200 years? This is the 21'st freakin century! We'll be teleporting when these savages decide "hey, how about a reformation"!

We cant survive another 2 centuries. they need to be walled up inside of saudi (where it began). Women excluded, escapee's would be dealt with.

200 years from now, too much of the world (thanks to idiot bleeding hearts) will be islamified and reformation WILL NOT happen.

Islam is not a religion, its a politcal movement like communism.

You can see how communism in 100 years has crept forward.

Felonius, you are so right! I'm NOT a Christian Fundie, but I could have cheered when I heard Pat Robertson say, "Islam is a violent totalitarian political system disguised as a religion."

I'm so sick of Liberals defending Islam as if it were a genuine religion. Islam will NEVER reform or evolve because it was NEVER spiritual to begin with. A "religion" created by a mass murderer & a pedaphile. Talk about a fraud perpetrated on humanity.

I'm glad someone here is aware.

SeaWind

Originally posted by lestweforget
I think the OP was aimed at muslim women who are happy muslims
in the west but to their surprise would not be in a muslim nation.
Thats my take on it anyway. What i would like to know if any
muslim women are allowed to use the computer is,
if a muslim woman dies as a martyre, what would she do with the
70 or so dark eyed virgins?

Lestweforget, only men are rewarded in Paradise with 72 young virgin girls and 28 young boys (originally 100 sex partners, but this was later sanitized down to just the 72 young virgin girls). Later in the Hadiths, this would be changed to an INFINITE number of sex partners in paradise. (I'm guessing they were having trouble recruiting martyrs for their armies, so the reward has to be upped.)

But back to your original question, females who go to their Muslim paradise are allowed to meet their favorite friends & family members.
What? You expected equality for women in their Muslim paradise?

SeaWind

Originally posted by SeaWind

Originally posted by felonius

Originally posted by Occy Anonymous
Islam is a newer religion then Christianity, and like any religion evolves seperately from society. 500 years ago Chrisitainity was in the exact same place, infact even worse off.

Give Islam another 200 years ago and it will be as "kind and equal" as Christainity is today.

You hold any religion to the same light as society and you're gonna see alot of ugly truths. This thread is so pointless, so many countries have horrible womens rights regardless of religion.

As for making that a reason to invade another country by your logic next stop should be Nepal or any african nation. But no that won't happen, because there's no profit there for them.

Another 200 years? This is the 21'st freakin century! We'll be teleporting when these savages decide "hey, how about a reformation"!

We cant survive another 2 centuries. they need to be walled up inside of saudi (where it began). Women excluded, escapee's would be dealt with.

200 years from now, too much of the world (thanks to idiot bleeding hearts) will be islamified and reformation WILL NOT happen.

Islam is not a religion, its a politcal movement like communism.

You can see how communism in 100 years has crept forward.

Felonius, you are so right! I'm NOT a Christian Fundie, but I could have cheered when I heard Pat Robertson say, "Islam is a violent totalitarian political system disguised as a religion."

I'm so sick of Liberals defending Islam as if it were a genuine religion. Islam will NEVER reform or evolve because it was NEVER spiritual to begin with. A "religion" created by a mass murderer & a pedaphile. Talk about a fraud perpetrated on humanity.

I'm glad someone here is aware.

SeaWind

all religion is violent totalitarian political system. chritianity, islam, judaism, catholicism, mormon, J.W., all of them. there is no difference between any of them.

-subfab

Originally posted by subfab
all religion is violent totalitarian political system. chritianity, islam, judaism, catholicism, mormon, J.W., all of them. there is no difference between any of them.

Okay, help me out here.

Where did you get this info?

Quakers and Buddhists are violent? I don't think so.

The Christians that were executed in Afghanistan over this past weekend by the Taliban, they might have begged to differ with you about who is a tad more violent. But they can't, they were executed for carrying a Bible.

Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by subfab
all religion is violent totalitarian political system. chritianity, islam, judaism, catholicism, mormon, J.W., all of them. there is no difference between any of them.

Okay, help me out here.

Where did you get this info?

Quakers and Buddhists are violent? I don't think so.

The Christians that were executed in Afghanistan over this past weekend by the Taliban, they might have begged to differ with you about who is a tad more violent. But they can't, they were executed for carrying a Bible.

two countries at war. one soldier kills another. which one is more violent? christians, muslims, jewish, buddhist, all are violent. all preach love. all are intolerant of the other.

salem witch trials, the spanish inquisition, holy wars....heck you name the religion you can find trails of violence leading to their front door. all in the name of God.

if God really wanted something done, don't you think He/She could do it without the help of man?

in the middle east like the western culture, religion is the political power behind the elected officials. sending christians to the middle east is like sending a taliban guy to an army base to convert the soldiers. if you look for trouble you will find it. nothing supernatural about it. it's all about politics.

-subfab