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Originally posted by whatukno
reply to post by Astroved
*In some cultures, the children BELONG to the father, not the mother. Which is why being born illegitimate is such a detriment to the child in those cultures.
This is the United States, and that OBVIOUSLY isn't the culture here. And since here is the entire POINT, no other culture applies.
What was UNUSUAL about this case was the reluctance & delays to provide a BC.
He provided a Birth Certificate, something that no other Candidate has ever done. Have you ever seen any other President's birth certificate?
It's online, if you don't believe it, well, that's your problem not Obama's. He posted it online for everyone to see, but if that's not good enough for you, then oh well.
I understand this won't go away, I have stopped trying to reason with birthers. They don't care about the truth, never have, never will. All birthers want is some lame excuse to get rid of THIS president. Face the fact that he was born in Hawaii, he will be POTUS till at least January 20, 2013, and get over it already.
Or! And this would be a HUGE favor to me, go out and convince every conservative and TPM candidate that this birther issue is big news and have them run on that. That would be a hoot!
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Well, I got somewhat of a response, and Dr. Polland is going to be informed of the invitation.
We will see what happens.
I am pretty sure he knows this topic is here.
If he did accept the invitation , I'm sure you all would be polite, Yes?
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I mean almost everyone makes fun of the Birthers -- the MSM has turned them into a joke along with the 9/11 Truthers.
The photo below, likely taken upon Barack Sr.'s departure for Harvard in 1962, shows not only Stanley's stunning resemblance to Obama, but also his inexplicable fondness for a black man who allegedly knocked up his daughter and is now abandoning her and his grandson.
The apolitical Washington State historical blog HistoryLink confirms Ann's arrival in August 1961, identifies her Capitol Hill apartment in Seattle, names the courses she took, and documents an extended stay by Ann and little Obama into the summer of 1962.
Incredibly, not one of the mainstream media accounts I consulted -- including four book-length biographies, several long-form magazine and newspaper bios, Obama's official campaign biography, and Obama's 1995 memoir Dreams From My Father -- places Ann and Obama anywhere other than in Hawaii during that first year.
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by Astroved
I mean almost everyone makes fun of the Birthers -- the MSM has turned them into a joke along with the 9/11 Truthers.
Yes, they were more worried about the true parentage of Trig Palin then Obama's.
John McCain Birth Certificate
www.scribd.com...
Many people were worried about McCain's eligibility.
[edit on 033131p://bSunday2010 by Stormdancer777]
Originally posted by bowlbyville
The following is from:
www.americanthinker.com...
Late summer, 1960
Stanley and Madelyn Dunham and 17-year-old daughter Stanley Ann (henceforth "Ann") leave the Seattle area for Hawaii. Ann does not want to go.
Fall, 1960
Ann enrolls at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, where 23-year-old Barack Obama, Sr. is a student.
Spring semester, 1961
Ann fails to enroll at the University of Hawaii.
February 2, 1961
Barack Sr. and Ann marry in Maui.
August 4, 1961
Barack Obama is reportedly born in Honolulu's Kapiloani Hospital for Women and Children.
August 19, 1961
Ann Dunham enrolls at the University of Washington in Seattle.
Summer 1962
Ann and baby Obama return to Hawaii.
Fall 1962
Barack Sr. leaves for Harvard.
Spring 1963
Ann re-enrolls at the University of Hawaii.
January 1964
Ann files to divorce Barack Sr.
So much as I’d like to think BHO wasn’t born in HA, it seems like he was…? Although I have to say, the AmericanThinker web-site has some pretty interesting articles that speculate on BHO’s background…makes you wonder why he was so poorly vetted by the MSM (actually, I think that’s a point of one of the articles).
But frankly speaking, a mother doesn't abondon her child...either his Mom had a screw loose or Stanley Dunham was not his mother (probably just the loose screw).
Originally posted by christianpatrick
reply to post by Astroved
"Thank you, Th1nker. It amazes me that everyone can't see that there's nothing unusual about requesting to see a BC when a POTUS candidate has a parent (especially the father*) who is NOT a US citizen. (It just brings up the spectre of divided loyalties, among other things.)
*In some cultures, the children BELONG to the father, not the mother. Which is why being born illegitimate is such a detriment to the child in those cultures."
Everybody knows that daddy Obama was a foreigner. The President has never made any secret of it. If the President's parents were never married, the President was never a british subject or kenyan citizen. Britain at that time did not give the citizenship to foreign born bastards of british fathers.
And birth certificates often list the father's name even if the parents are not married. That would prove nothing. My mother did not show her wedding certificate when my sister was born. I was there at the time. I was 17. She still put my stepfather's name on the birth certificate.
It's still none of our business.
Let us postulate that Bill Clinton's mother had an affair and the result was Bill Clinton. Would you feel you had to know that? Let's say that Bill Clinton just found that out because he needed to get an kidney transplant and found out that none of his father's family had dna matching his. Should he call a press conference to announce that his mother was an adulteress, his father a cuckold, and himself a bastard? Would you?
I disagree. Americans have every right to demand to see a photocopy of the original "Cerificate of Live Birth" that was issued in 1961 of the POTUS. The fact that after two & a half years, this request has been denied means that something is being hidden. What that something is -- has been (understandably) the subject of speculation.
Originally posted by grahag
OMG! According to Astrology, Obama is gay!?
This is breaking news! Why doesn't the MSM know/report about this?
And the birthers wonder why they look crazy?
Obama could be purple and be trisexual and I wouldn't give a crap. People trying to dredge up this muck are just letting everyone know their bias and bigotry...