Originally posted by Regensturm
reply to post by DrJay1975
There's a saying that goes something like this:
"Whenever a rich man says he got his money through hard work, ask him, "whose?".
Many a man, woman and indeed child has worked hard in history, does not mean they ever get to amass huge amounts of wealth that the average joe would
never earn in a hundred lifetimes or influence the corridors of power.
Your hard work = wealth to influence the powerful theory does not equate.
Hard work = wealth? That would be down to sheer good luck whenever that happens, and that's all too rare.
Wealth these days is about being born or married to the right family name, and profiteering off the backs of others' hard work.
Hard work = wealth would mean a great proportion of the world would be multi-millionaires except for it being the few compared to the overall global
And please, enough with telling us you're a 'direct ancestor' to James IV.
A great proportion of people living today are supposedly related to Genghis Khan, but to claim as such invites ridicule at such a blatant attempt to
impress people on the internet with your claims of ancestry which are dubious to say the least and at best would be extremely tenous.
[edit on 19-7-2010 by Regensturm]
Please do not pretend you know anything about my family tree. It was James VI that I posted. You seem to have no problem with anyone else who posted
relations to royal bloodlines. Most people do. I have no desire to impress anyone. I believe I stated that trees are spread out so far that we all
have some form of royal ancestry. What on Earth makes you think I have any desire to impress you, it was simply a statement. The implication of the
statement is that not everyone in these bloodlines are wealthy, or bad people or have visions of global domination. Lose your attitude.
As far as hard work and creating wealth being related, I disagree. Wealth is typically built generationally or by virtue of sheer brilliance. Bill
Gates's wealth was not built over generations as many of these families were. The kid that started facebook or google. A good friend of mine bought
2 ocean front lots in va beach in 1950 for 5k each that he borrowed from the bank. He later sold them for 50k. Now he's a timeshare and hotel
developer with a net worth of over a billion dollars. Al copeland a New Orleans fixture busted his ass and made himself extremely wealthy in one
generation. Not everyone makes there money off the hard work of others.
And hard work alone doesn't guarantee success. Luck can be a factor. Intelligent investing. Brilliant ideas. The point is anyone has the
potential to become wealthy and powerful. John Rockefeller was originally new money. The Dupont's got really welthy selling gunpowder during the
civil war. The Astor's through real estate and hotels. Almost 1% of Americans are millionaires. One in 3 believe they will be. A hardworking
firefighter here in new orleans is the 12th highest paid city employee at 140k per year, 70k in overtime. Look at New Jersey's pension plan for
unions. Becoming a millionaire isn't hard.
My fmaily hhas been farmers for 250 years. They've amassed money. Not by being brilliant, but by hard work. My father and I worked in a field from
dawn until dark growing up. He forced me into college, I had scholarships. He wanted me to become something where I didn't have to bust my butt 15
hours a day doing manual labor. When we built a house growing up we paid for it as we went along. I spent 8 years in college and several years in
internships to get where I am. Hard work. And I've done well. Hard work increases your chances of becoming rich, hard work through generations
increases your chances of being wealthy to where you don't have to work, where you just have to manage that wealth amassed.
There are lazy rich people. There are lazy wealthy people. They hit the lotto or inherit a fortune. So those people either get lucky or have a
hardworking wealthy family. If you don't pay attention in school, don't study, don't go to college, don't work hard while your there, or don't
learn a valuable trade and bust your arse then you'll never amount to anything unless you are lucky. My theory stands. Hard work doesn't guarantee
rich and powerful but it greatly increases your chances.
And we aren't wealthy. Royal bloodline and DuPont bloodline or not. We do have some contacts with people of influence that we wouldn't have
otherwise had without our families. But I work hard at my practice and my wife stays home with the kids. We aren't wealthy, but we're in the top
2% of American wage earners. We spent many nights at the Dupont mansion in the outer banks of North Carolina. I met many in my wife's family.
These people aren't satanic. A couple of em are nuts just like any other family. The only difference between these people and everyone else is the
amount of wealth they've amassed and the kids are brought up with more(for the most part) than everyone else. And that wealth gives them more
opportunities. Yeah a kid that shouldn't get into harvard can because of a donation. Yeah a kid that couldn't otherwise get funding for a business
can get it. Yeah it makes getting legislation passed because yhey can make campaign contributions.
But they are just people. And they use the means at their disposal to live their lives and accomplish the things they desire. I'm sure some people
in these families want to rule the world. Hell I know people oon welfare that want to do that. People fear what they don't understand. And because
these families are often quite private many people think that there is a conspiracy or some other shinnannigans. SOmetimes there is most of the time
there isn't. Folks need to calm down and not rag on these people. They probably do more good in the world than all of their detractors put
[edit on 20-7-2010 by DrJay1975]