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BP Document preservation order for contract workers

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posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 01:08 PM
reply to post by SWCCFAN

The only thing that honestly has me wondering about this document and the validity is the fact that everywhere that there is a "BP" company name, they never post the Copyright letter or TM Letter as I am pretty sure it would be required for a legal document. But other than that. Nice find?

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 01:14 PM
reply to post by januaryx5th

Great find Januaryx5th! I completely overlooked that, good eye.

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 01:31 PM

Originally posted by CitizenNum287119327
#7 basically gives BP the right to enter your home ('...or other location...'),

even when you are not there (' any time BP so chooses').

you would be desperate for work if you signed this.

It also looks like #3 is telling you what folder to put it in and what icon to shortcut, when they come to look for it. You're right about #7, but I doubt BP will do it. They'll send their Wackenhut goons over to do it.

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 01:35 PM

Originally posted by TerribleTeam2
reply to post by Spiro

Wrong mate. As a Sub-Contractor, you would have to sign one of them. Even if you are working for Halliburton, for all intents and purposes, BP would be your "boss", since Halliburton signed a work contract with them. I had to do the same thing when I recently was working for a Belgian dredging company here in Sydney. Even though I was still employed by my Dad, we were sub-contracted to the dredging company, so therefore I had to follow their instructions. And do all the safety inductions involved. It's basically standard procedure.

Greetings friend, thanks for the interesting reply

Is it standard procedure for ALL company's, outside of your own?

Just asking is all

Be safe and be well,


posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 01:37 PM

Originally posted by SWCCFAN
Miller Oil Spill Clean Up Contract a must read!

I found this document too at the same place but I had to discuss it with friends before I posted it. Its pretty bad...

So you also found this one on top of a trash can? Really you found Oil spill clean up documents for 2 different companies on the same trashcan?

What are you doing rooting around in trashcans is my first question. Second question is how stupid do you think I am to believe this? So if you are lying about the origin of the document you actually have no clue if this is even legit.

And lastly, there is nothing wrong with the second document you posted either, did you bother to really read these things even?

Did no one else notice this conflict in his posts?

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 01:46 PM

Personally I think whomever made the decision to use dispersant and those that continue to allow their us should be executed for crimes against Humanity. That Corexit is some real bad stuff.

I couldn't agree more. This has to be a crime.... The stuff is illegal in Europe sooooo why is it okay to use it in the U.S.? The secrets need to stop. We the people seems to not have a say in anything that goes on down in The Gulf of Mexico. "We the people......" doesn't that mean anything anymore? :-(

The exact makeup of the dispersants is kept secret under competitive trade laws, but a worker safety sheet for one product, called Corexit, says it includes 2-butoxyethanol, a compound associated with headaches, vomiting and reproductive problems at high doses.

Three ingredients of the two Corexit formulas were already available on material safety data sheets that outline the human health risks of using the dispersants in the workplace. Corexit 9527, used in lesser quantities during the earlier days of the spill response, is designated a chronic and acute health hazard by EPA. The 9527 formula contains 2-butoxyethanol, pinpointed as the cause of lingering health problems experienced by cleanup workers after the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill, and propylene glycol, a commonly used solvent.

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 01:47 PM
reply to post by Spiro

As far as I am aware, yes. We deal with ALOT of Ships crewmembers, and from the contracts I have read from some of them, it's they are the same. These guys are from Kiribati, and are employed by one Company. Then, they are basically hired out to various Merchant Shipping Companies. Now, in their contracts, it states that even though they are legally employed by their local company, they must strictly adhere to the regulations etc of the Merchant Marine company that takes them up for Employment on their vessels.

So as far as I know, it's not just a local thing here in Aus.

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 02:00 PM
reply to post by from here to infinity

Of course you could be correct but why would someone fake a perfectly normal document which seems to imply that BP is doing what they can to make sure all evidence is preserved? I could see it if the document instructed people to shred and delete evidence.

If I were to fake a document to make a company look bad it wouldn't be instructing people NOT to destroy evidence.

Unless it's an attempt by a BP employee to make BP look innocent while shredding away in the back room.

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 02:03 PM
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posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 02:05 PM
the sad thing is fisherman or any kind of person who works on a boat will probably sign this and work for BP. regardless of how bad it sounds, its money and thats what these family need!

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 02:08 PM
That contract shows no BP letter head, therefore wouldn't it not be a legal document? So it can't be binding, it could be said that anyone could draw up something like that. Shouldn't it be on BP Company letter head? Than you would think that it makes it a legal and binding contract, also shouldn't it have a part for a witness signature as well.
Just trying to point a few things out that could have a positive reaction to these poor people that are being used by BP.

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 02:14 PM
reply to post by sputniksteve

Hey sputniksteve, I also immediately noticed the odd coincidental-ness of it. I was postponing commenting on it til, the OP answered my previous questions I posted on page 2.

Quite interesting isn't it?

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 02:17 PM
reply to post by Primordial

Hii Primordial! You're absolutely correct in your statements. Thing is I don't believe that the OP faked them at all. I just dont think that the document posted is authentic. Wrap your head around that one...

I'm not sure who faked it but I don't think it was the OP.

...Then again it may be real, who knows? I was just calling out the oddities I found within it.

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 02:20 PM
reply to post by hawaii50th

Nope. Hell, there are even times when an unwritten, Verbal contract is legally binding.

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 02:21 PM
reply to post by hawaii50th

Greetings hawaii50th! I noted the exact sentiments that you mentioned, early on. I think it's great that you thought the same and reiterated it.

edit to correct sentence structure.

[edit on 9-7-2010 by from here to infinity]

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 02:24 PM

Originally posted by from here to infinity
Regardless of the message being relayed within, I personally (partially) doubt the authenticity of this document.

It's condition alone should be a red flag...

edited (again) to add: That I find it striking how for nearly 2 pages every poster commented on what the text of the document said before even checking to see if any of the document itself was even authentic. Had noone else really done any side work to see if anything mentioned was even true?

[edit on 9-7-2010 by from here to infinity]

I thought I was the only one who doubted this document. Especially when considering these other hints on this fraud.

1.) If you analyze the writing style of this document, it is apparent that the writer is definitely a regular civilian having to use examples in his documents which can be erroneous due to its limitation on its legal binding

2.) If your in LA, the government would not require BP to "preserve" documents and to force LA workers to keep their mouths closed, because there is nothing they have that is access to that pertaining to the Deepwater Horizon Incident (btw legal documents dont use unofficial titles to describe, rather it wouldnt even matter if it was pertaining to such incident, they dont have to disclose a date or "title")

4.) these type of documents are not just loosely handed out. they would come in a packet of papers, they would show a cover letter and such. and whoever threw out just those two pages would get caught seeing as all employees are required to hand in their papers.

5.)BP makes enough money to hire a good enough lawyer that would not make such a disastrous document which can get them heat

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 02:25 PM
reply to post by TerribleTeam2

Very true TerribleTeam2. Although with a subject matter this serious involving the nations (possibly?) greatest oil catastrophy, I don't think things would have been done so hastily. But who knows, maybe they were. I just think they would have done everything by the book, now that the nation's eye is on them.

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 02:28 PM
reply to post by Data_Corrupt

Salutations Data_Corrupt! Very well said. The points you've made couldn't be more truthful. You've made a lot of points that I blatently overlooked. Thanks for pointing those things out

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 02:35 PM
This is pretty standard fare. I work for a large software firm and anytime there is a lawsuit in progress regarding a particular client, they send us a blanket email that basically says, "Hey, if you have any documents relating to client 'X', do not destroy or delete them, they may be relative to the case".

They have to notify their employees/contractors by law to preserve documents. They simply don't want to be accused of destroying evidence. I wouldn't get too excited over this.

posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 02:35 PM
reply to post by from here to infinity

True. But what people have to remember is that unfortunately, the mind doesn't work at 100% capacity at all times, and mistakes are made. This doesn't justify the negligence on BP's part, and the event that started it all, but when writing/typing up contracts, mistakes are made.

And when something of this magnitude happens, everyone would be pulling the long shift, to keep up with everything that is going on. Think of it this way - even when fully rested, cool, calm and collected, mistakes are made. So imagine what kind of mistakes can be made when tired, stressed, and under extreme pressure from all angles???

Again, I repeat, in no way do I condone the Negligence on BP's part, and I really do hope that they are forced to pay through the teeth. Only problem with that, or if it sends them bankrupt, the guys on the rigs/vessels/everything else that keeps BP going, will get the short straw and lose their jobs.

And that's the problem when an event of this magnitude happens. At the end of the day, the Executives/Directors and other higher ups can still drive their BMW's home to their mansions, even if the company does go broke, while the guys that helped make all the Billions of dollars worth of profits for the company get FUBAR'd..........

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