Feds shut down nine websites in movie piracy crackdown

all the movies coming out these days are remakes of the 1980's...
it made me sick today to hear that tom cruise is to star in topgun2.....
i can just guess the plot.
.tom saves the world single handily in his crippled jet shooting down nukes flying towards Newyork from North Korea..

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I happen to 100% agree... Everyone feels "safe" behind their little desk... Annonymously downloading movies and or music.. F'ing cowards!! Your making a stand against high prices?? Grow a pair and go out and protest the cost of a new car.. Go steal one. Maybe while your at it..I think LCD TV's are too much, should I go steal one?

I think this thread shows the hypocrisy of the so called intelligent folks on ATS. I wonder if half of you keyboard protesters would be so apt to steal these things, if your IP was your SS#... I am done wondering.. You would decide if you have the money to go to the movies, or wait for the DVD.

It is incredible how lightly you are taking this.... So you think the prices are high.... so you steal it, to show exactly what?

Don't you think the price hike has something to do with the lost revenue from illegal downloading? It has a direct relationship to the price of DVD's and CD's.

The stores and businesses in our country have had to cushion their bottom line for years, due to you protesters and plain old theives!

You can argue all you want about price and product.. you have the right to not watch or buy.. BUT you do not have the right to steal! Its that simple. Twist it anyway you want... the fact remains.. ITS THEFT!

Pull your head out of the sand.

Lobbyist money at work.

I read the "manifesto"

'd like to ask you a question sometimes. Perhaps I'm being naive, but honestly, why can an actor be paid
$20 million for a movie? Why are there doctors out there paying off student loans for fifty years, but
someone who essentially “lies” for a living makes millions?

G-D Dang Socialist Hippy Peacenik Bolshivik Commie Scum!

Just kidding, kind of...

I have some sympathy for these people. But we have a rule of law for a reason. These laws may be bad, but it's not like slavery or something where you can truly justify direct action. It needs to be fought by changing the system, not through vigilantism.

There's not one movie that has ever made a profit. They are all money losers on the books so that they never have to pay the people involved that agreed to a cut of the 'net'. It's a shady business to begin with. I don't pirate movies, but I'm not going to shed a tear when they say they are losing money. It's all smoke, mirrors, and shady book keeping.

I am surprised people can afford to go to the movies still. If I see one I want to watch (about one of every 12-15 movies) I wait for it to come one on DVD or find someone I know who has downloaded it and borrow it.

I can say for fact that I am glad I did not pay to watch Paranormal Activity. I watched the movie for free and still felt ripped off, I think they should have paid me to watch the thing. The best part of the movies was the fact it ended. Had I gone to the movies to watch it I would have been highly upset.

Still going to the movies costs a house payment nowadays, so it is easier to wait it out. By then I have either forgotten about the movie (meaning it was not that important), or found out if it is really worth watching or not.

Raist

For me it isnt about cost so much as it is about accessibility.

When the closest theater showing something I want to see is an hour and a half away I'd rather just download it.

There is a theater here in town that shows a couple of movies. And it's dirt cheap. I go there all the time. If it's some obscure movie or an artsy movie only playing in cities then I just go ahead and DL it.

iTunes did a lot to counter music pirating. Why doesnt the film industry do something similar?

Give me a choice to go drive an hour, drop $20, and see your movie or pay you $10 for a high-speed HD stream of it. People who go out to the movies do it for the night out and the big screen. You wouldnt lose them if you offered a streaming version at the same time.

Piracy, if it's even as big a problem as they pretend it is, can be easily reduced with more consumer friendly marketing and a profit can be had.

Nooooo!!!!

Not Ninjavideo! I love that site.

I went on it yesterday and it was down and I thought they were just doing maintenance on the site or servers.

Oh crap. This is not good.

I still buy stuff, it's just very rare I see something I consider worth buying - but when I do I'll gladly part with my cash.

The amount of movies and tv I've seen that should never have been made is depressing.

Hollyweird (specifically) needs to stop churning out formulaic tedious junk.

Market Forces

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Piracy, if it's even as big a problem as they pretend it is, can be easily reduced with more consumer friendly marketing and a profit can be had.

Definitely.

While it is immoral and illegal to distribute the intellectual property of others without permission, the impetus for doing so and the demand for such services would be greatly reduced if better alternatives were more readily available. And though the process has been somewhat slower than it should be, they are becoming available.

Services like Netflix, for example, already offer what most movie buffs want at reasonable rates, and there are also many legitimate ad-driven sites on the Internet that offer massive catalogs for viewers at no charge.

Unlike DAT, the Internet is already established and can't be effectively hobbled by entertainment industry lobbies. The old strategy of trying to halt the march of technological progress through lawsuits is finding its way onto the ash heap of history where it belongs.

Rather, as the entertainment industry adapts to the realities of near-instantaneous worldwide digital communication, the niche that pirates currently fill will become smaller and smaller, and though it will probably never disappear entirely, any pretext of legitimacy they may claim ultimately will.

Phew!!! I don't use any of those thank God!

I find Kickass Torrents and EZTV pretty much cover my needs. To be honest I'd never heard of most of those others. Must be a nationality thing...

It's Theft - - plain and simple. You are not entitled.

The justifications are astounding.

Oh yea, on another note the r6 dvd rip of the new Karate Kid was leaked today..Its a good copy too, better get to gettin.

Originally posted by jokei
I still buy stuff, it's just very rare I see something I consider worth buying - but when I do I'll gladly part with my cash.

The amount of movies and tv I've seen that should never have been made is depressing.

Hollyweird (specifically) needs to stop churning out formulaic tedious junk.

I agree. If a movie is good enough, I'll definitely buy it when it's released on DVD. Last one I bought was Avatar, I think. I also use Play.com etc for cheaper older movies or boxsets. Recently bought the Shrek trilogy from there.

But, why should I pay £3.50 a night for a Blockbuster rental which I'm then forced to watch that same night, I might not even like it and in the time it takes me to get to Blockbuster, chose a movie and get back, I could have downloaded it for free? Or even worse, £12-£16 to buy it new and find out it's crap!

Does anyone think that £50-£100 for a TV season boxset is value for money? How much profit must they make off that? There's the initial cost of production to cover, fine, but the DVD's themselves, including covers and sleeves probably cost about 50p each at the most! Now THAT is theft!

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Typical reptilian mind. Instead of dealing with the issue of piracy and why it occurs, instead they go for a couple of domains? Maybe they should look into why people pirate things...

Originally posted by Annee
It's Theft - - plain and simple. You are not entitled.

The justifications are astounding.

I couldn't agree with you more

With TWC I can pay a few bucks to watch a movie as soon as it's released on DVD. If it's really good, we'll buy the DVD. I have a 50" tv with surround sound. It's not the big screen, but then I can't go to the theater in my underwear either. Why would I want to sit in a desk chair for 2 hours to watch a movie on my 21" screen computer when I can just wait a few months and watch it on my tv while relaxing in my recliner?

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You can get films for a penny on Amazon sometimes - I tend to trust the user-reviews too, as there's no vested interest in promoting something.

Blockbuster won't be around much longer, they've already started shutting stores.

My best suggestion is to take recommendations off friends, I've got a massive movie collection and share stuff with my mates.

Not that I would recommend illegally downloading things, because that's naughty but there's a site called BTjunkie that I've heard has a very comprehensive range of material.

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BTjunkie is very good, I have to say... not that I would recomment downloading either... #cough#

The amazing thing is, if there was a site out there, where you could cheaply rent a movie and have access to stream it for 24 hours, piracy would halve overnight! I would certainly be willing to pay a couple of quid to sit on my arse and have instant access to any released movie and not have to wait for it to download either! I rent movies off Virgin TV's On Demand service all the time, but it's not a very comprehensive or up to date system.

I generally only download DVD rips too, if I want to see a movie that's out at the cinema that badly, I'll go a watch it there, rather than watch a crap CAM version! I'm actually going to see the new Shrek in 3D at the IMAX tonight, lol.

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I know. But unless you run your own proxies and tunneling proxies what's available free to most people and what most people know about this isn't safe from these agencies. They found these sites, didn't they? They can find you.