The "Up to the Minute" BP Livefeed Discussion Thread

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My site is using the same feeds as the others.. just maybe laid out differently.

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Ektar, dood showed up right after the major activity stopped. I think another poster saw it at the time I did now that I think about it.

Originally posted by Kratos1220
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Ektar, dood showed up right after the major activity stopped. I think another poster saw it at the time I did now that I think about it.

I missed it also Yep.. Dragon saw it! You weren't alone this time!

This is a little different...the up close circles are
splats that hit the lens at the beginning of this blow out...
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a7cd1f9b7ea7.jpg[/atsimg]

Ektar

If he did, he didn't say anything. I think the poster name was "Tribble" or something to that effect. Page 166 I believe.

Got to go.. have fun all!
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to be accurate, i've been here more or less all weekend.

i have yet to see what you are referring to on either ocean int.

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i use the sanscreations link.

www.sanaracreations.fi...


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on the topic of what kratos and i disagree on seeing:

how could there be a giant plume coming from the sea floor, and then not? I mean, if the sea floor opened enough to create a plume the size kratos is referring to, how would it close again?

[edit on 8-8-2010 by justadood]

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When the plumes come up you don't
necessarily see a crack open up...you can be
staring at a place on the floor, cams are steady
and plumes just start coming up...
did you view ant of my photos or others?
Also on some of the cams...they are set far back
that you have to look closely near the light fade
line...they're trying to make it as difficult as they can
for us to make anything out...In the beginning ALL
cameras were projecting nice clear feeds...
once major problems started the feed quality
has slowly diminished to so beyond bunch of crap
it's practically laughable!

Ektar

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how can plumes of oil 'gush' upwards without a visible opening in the sea floor?

yes, i saw your pictures, and already commented on them.

the areas you have highlighted as 'plumes of crude' i am not as positive as you on. in my eye, they could be numerous things.

again, how can a massive 'gusher' be leaving the sea floor without a visible crack and much distribution of the debris on the sea floor?

I think you are seeing ocean currents pixilated and discolored.

Except ocean currents don't flow out of the ground towards the surface. It's not like I would mistaken a gust of wind for a volcanic eruption.

The red I was showing you was what seemed to be left over from the major action, however I am open to that red being a result of pixelation and such. I am not open to what I saw being an ocean current because it wasn't.

[edit on 8-8-2010 by Kratos1220]

Originally posted by Kratos1220
Except ocean currents don't flow out of the ground towards the surface. It's not like I would mistaken a gust of wind for a volcanic eruption.

Well, 'out of the ground' isnt accurate, though, right? We havent seen the ground actually open up, have we? I havent. And if it did, how did it close again?

I see the currents you are referring to. Especially the white 'things' that are moving 'up'. why couldnt it be ocean current and ocean debris? Ocean debris could move up, down, left, right. it could move however it wants.

now, i do see what appears to be lots of oil 'globules' constantly rising from the sea floor. But that is MUCH different than the 'gusher' you described earlier.

btw ocean int 1 is down, yes?

Yeah, it's down at the moment.

What you are seeing now is nothing like what was going on before. It was pretty much constant for 30-45 minutes and towards the end, you showed up and said you stepped out for a few hours, did you not? You couldn't see the lights in the distance because it was so thick and it kept coming straight up from the floor. It wasn't being "blown" to either side, just straight up. An ocean current would not permit all that crap to go straight up and not be swept to either side.

I know what an ocean current looks like by now.

I did not say massive gusher...the larger plumes
you can see at the edge of the light fade...IMO
they are keeping that view as far away as possible
for anyone watching to see...I've been watching this
site like a hawk and if you sit & watch a feed for awhile
where NOTHING is moving (ROVs) clouds or plumes will start
coming up from the sea floor, up close out of know where.
That's why I've been very selective on the photos I post..
Don't have the video thing down yet...
But a HUGE thank you as one of 2 people that actually
made it possible to FINALLY be able to post photos!

Ektar

It looks like all the feeds are dead now.

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yeah, i had stepped away for a good hour, for sure.

But my point remains. i have seen a lot of 'debris' on that field, but i dont see how there could be red crude emitting from it if the sea floor is still intact.


Am i missing something?

Thanks for your patience with my tedious questioning.

screenshots next time :-0

It looks like all the feeds are dead now.

nope. just refresh.

[edit on 8-8-2010 by justadood]

Originally posted by Ektar
I did not say massive gusher...the larger plumes
you can see at the edge of the light fade...IMO
they are keeping that view as far away as possible
for anyone watching to see...I've been watching this
site like a hawk and if you sit & watch a feed for awhile
where NOTHING is moving (ROVs) clouds or plumes will start
coming up from the sea floor, up close out of know where.
That's why I've been very selective on the photos I post..
Don't have the video thing down yet...
But a HUGE thank you as one of 2 people that actually
made it possible to FINALLY be able to post photos!

Ektar

No, i believe kratos said 'gusher'.

Like is said, i see what you are referring to. I'm just not sure they are 'plumes'. i dont see how a 'plume' can rise from the sea floor without a visible opening, or disturbing the massive amount of sea floor debris.

I see white things, small oil globules, and a lot of sea drift, distorted by light and poor image quality.

lets not jump the gun just yet.

Well, I assure you I wouldn't say things just to say them. I've been watching the feeds for a decent amount of time and I know the difference between those things. I know when I see eruptions from the sea floor and when I see the currents dragging stuff around. Silt, bubbles, oil globs and plumes of brown and green were erupting from the seabed and it lasted quite awhile.

The best I can describe it is if you forced a golf ball through a garden hose. You'd see a bulge traveling from one end to the other until it popped out. Now, imagine the hose is made of the "smoke" that was the stuff erupting and the golf ball were plumes/eruptions shooting through it. That is the effect I clearly saw at times which is why I used words like "billowing" and "gushing". I wouldn't say this stuff unless it's what I saw and that is what I saw. I can't explain why these things start and stop, but most of us have seen it happen out of nowhere for no reason. It's not prop wash, it's not ocean currents or anything else like that. Maybe the pressure builds to a point where this happens and when the pressure is relieved, it stops until it builds up again and shoots out. I respect your skepticism, but you didn't see it and I know what I saw.

At any rate, I rebooted and the feeds aren't working at all for me. I don't know why. I pull up the page and the bar with the play button goes right to the top of that section and plays nothing. Firefox then starts lagging and freezing until I close it. Beats me. It doesn't work in any browser.

[edit on 8-8-2010 by Kratos1220]

Kratos I saw exactly what you are talking about more than once.!

justadood your ?
I think that the soil down there is fractured and very silty sand.
so it probably acts like quicksand and fills the hole as the gasses are released. I think the sea bed is also filtering the oil through and that is why we get that cloudy rust color that is so hard to make out or focus on for the ROV.

[edit on 8/8/2010 by -W1LL]

anyone reporting on the nice weather system moving in>?

www.weather.com...